Closed EJ long trade.
Will see monday again. TAH thank you for your valuable contribution! Respect!
Will see monday again. TAH thank you for your valuable contribution! Respect!
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- #46,743
- Apr 19, 2013 2:30pm Apr 19, 2013 2:30pm
- Joined Mar 2008 | Status: PVSRA with Traderathome | 23,552 Posts
- #46,745
- Apr 19, 2013 2:39pm Apr 19, 2013 2:39pm
- Joined Mar 2008 | Status: PVSRA with Traderathome | 23,552 Posts
- #46,747
- Apr 19, 2013 2:52pm Apr 19, 2013 2:52pm
- Joined Jan 2013 | Status: Trader | 1,107 Posts
Closed all EU trades at current price starting from 1.3125.
Tried something new and multiplied every position with sell stops when price passed those entey points to estimated direction.
Tried something new and multiplied every position with sell stops when price passed those entey points to estimated direction.
I know the secret...
- #46,748
- Apr 19, 2013 2:54pm Apr 19, 2013 2:54pm
- Joined Jan 2013 | Status: Trader | 1,107 Posts
Closed all GU trades starting from 1.5364. Tried something new and multiplied every position with sell stops when price passed entry points to estimated direction.
I know the secret...
- #46,749
- Apr 19, 2013 4:21pm Apr 19, 2013 4:21pm
- Joined Mar 2008 | Status: PVSRA with Traderathome | 23,552 Posts
TAH gone crazy again ! RWH target was an exagerated one but my intention was to show the fibo levels there at 1.5353 and higher which was a nice target for longs, after that it could continue up or come down and it came down as you expected.I said it could go up above 1.5310 it did, you said it will come down from somewhere it did.Both are right.I'm not sure if my english is not good enough or you are crazy enough that you look for challenges out of nowhere.All I expected was "good fibo bad fibo" or some other bullshit ! And you even didn't reply the real question ! If you look for challenges here is a challenge for you ! You trade with PVSRA or PVA or what the fuck is that.You make your way of trading and claim profitable.You make your day! How about the rest of the normal sonicers looking for classic sonicr setup ? How and when are they going to use this way of trading in their single trades.I mean 1 trade with hard sl and tp not with a mental sl and not with micro lots.How should they use this way in their trading ? When are they going to pull the trigger with classic sonic r setup in the true direction ? Should they wait your 5 th trade and then pull the trigger ? Or 6th ? In the beginning of this thread we were longing when we see a classic setup but now you start shorting it now with the same long setup for some reason .The way you trade it I think is not good for classic entries.What you should do is to point a long setup with a warning that it is a trap long maybe.People can take that long with a hard sl and move on.When you think the market turns to its real path you could say here is a classic sonic r short and this is the markets real way.So then people can take that short with a logical stop and move their stop to BE and take profit later.And I believe it could be more usefull for sonicers and it could be a better challenge for you ! Okan {image}
This is the best part "What you should do is to point a long setup with a warning that it is a trap long maybe" (Okanemici)
This shows you neither understand the art of building a position, nor the usefulness of knowing if the MMs are bulls or bears before jumping on a good looking Sonic R. System setup. Not all good looking setups run good, and there is a very good reason why.
It also shows you really don't read the thread contents already provided by others working to help, that explain and teach these things!
Finally, it shows you prefer to criticize what is being proven successful instead of applauding it, almost as though you do not want others to be successful.
It is probably no wonder then, that you never post any trades.
-tah
- #46,750
- Edited 5:07pm Apr 19, 2013 4:47pm | Edited 5:07pm
- Joined Mar 2008 | Status: PVSRA with Traderathome | 23,552 Posts
Hi okanemici well first thing could you tell me is that the template you use is it the same system that master sonic deejay uses? whats the difference between the original system and the system presented by Tah? In the original system posted on page 1 that includes 1) QQE 2) CCI : 3) NVO : 4) 89EMA : 5) ZZFractal (Optional) 6) TRO Tunnel Dragon 7) SH trendline and in the new template presented by tah things are quite different and i guess his approach is also very different.(scout trades etc etc) ? I don't know what this thread is about anymore...
saiftauheed, you have the system wrong, you have me wrong, and you have Master Sonicdeejay wrong! And all because you refuse to apply yourself, as any good student would, to reading the textbook.
Cases in point
The original system has never changed. I'm not talking indicators here, I am talking the method! And my application of the method was as imperfect as anyone's could be in the beginning. And I have struggled as much as anyone else to deal with the imperfections and find a way to help myself, and anyone else in such a situation. The answer has been a long time coming, but it is a doozy. It works, and it works elegantly well!
Templates have changed. They have gone from Dragon + Trend, with an assortment of other price derivative indicators, to the current form which is Dragon + Trend + Volume. I am not the one responsible for these changes. If you had taken the time to read this thread, you would know that your criticism of me is totally baseless. Just ask Sonicdeejay, himself about it. My indicators and templates have been designed to provide the best tools availabe in complete accord with the Sonic R. System as Master Sonicdeejay has it. Again, if you had ever bothered yourself to read, you would see the appreciation he has expressed to me for providing updated templates along the way.
And you say, "I don't know what this thread is about anymore because there are a lot of templates posted lots of people use the new one while I prefer the original...." You don't know what the thread is about anymore? You have never understood what the thread is about because you have never read it. All you have done is fixate yourself on indicators, as if they define the method and are going to make you a good trader. They don't and they aren't.
Do you think I am being harsh here? Well, if you went to college and did not apply yourself there, like it is evident you have not applied yourself here, you would fail. Neither Master Sonicdeejay nor I wish for anyone that comes to this thread to fail. Why do you think he and I have poured over ten thousand hours of effort into this thread, both in time posting and time offline spent developing tools? Does Master Sonicdeejay sell anything here? No! So you can well believe we both wish to help, not hurt and not discourage others. Personally, I have taken a lot of abuse from some people over the years, but I have contributed enough that I could have quit anytime under such abuse and left with a clear conscience. I ask myself, though, if I am strong enough to withstand the criticism of others and stay the course. I am, and partly because I realize that some of those other folks might actually be trying to damage Sonic's work because we are so successful. I won't stand idly by and watch that happen. No sir!
So, you pick whatever template and indicators you want. Everyone in the world is free to trade however they want, using whatever they want. If you stray too far afield from the Sonic R. System, you will be asked to leave, that's all. From the looks of it, though, you need to read enough of the thread to master the essence of the Sonic R. System, and when you have done that you will need very little on your charts.
-tah
- #46,752
- Edited 6:16pm Apr 19, 2013 5:36pm | Edited 6:16pm
- Joined Mar 2008 | Status: PVSRA with Traderathome | 23,552 Posts
-Answer Okanemici's post before answer to any of my posts please. -I want to see a CLEAR "PVSRA" setup with your entry before I post one of my trades.....a PDF explaining what in the world is PVSRA would be even better BTW. (Newbies who read this thread and want to be sonicers dont understand what are you talking about because you are making a simple and profitable sistem complicated and they have to READ TOO MUCH everyday trying to figure out what is PVSRA which makes you make "THOUSANDS OF PIPS". Therefore, they don't learn how to trade neither...
I will try to comply in the hope you will get it.
1. My answers to okanemici's demands are already posted, and if you had indeed been reading then you would know my answers as I have multiple times already informed all Sonicers that PVSRA is a new developement and it is in-work, and for the time being the only material that will be available on it will be my trade posts and other comment posts. Really, I don't care if okanemici posts trades or not, but when he challenges me, I will respond if I think I should. As for him winning the challenge, you'd better look again. PA did not reach either RWH or RWL, but it came closer to RWL than it did RWH. I posted live trade profits of 320 pips and he refused to trade at all in the direction his mouth was going! End of subject. He claims my teachings of PVSRA in my posts and other posted comments thru the week amounts to too much reading for people to suffer thru in order to learn what is behind my making thousands of pips weekly (oh, BTW....2,160 pips this week, all trades posted start to finish on this thread). If that is too much reading for someone, considering these results, maybe they should get out of trading.
2. I am glad to hear you read the thread every day. I recommend each time you come back to the thread, you start reading from whence you stopped. And take extra time to read from the beginning of the thread, because this is the Sonic R. Sytem Manual. To bad it is so large, but then lots of folks come here unread and unprepared to post, and clutter the manual with unfruitful stuff.
3. I am also happy to hear that you do not critize my approach. That has already been done by others to no effect except to clutter the thread with unfruitful stuff.
4. Regarding the SL! Now, I like this line of question. I hate SLs! They are a double edged sword. They can be useful, but the market makers know where they are and can easily in "off hours" run prices to hit the bulk of them. Even brokers can do it, though they all will vehemently deny that they ever do. Frankly, my style of trading is to rarely use SLs, and even to keep my EPs to myself until the time comes. I see no reason to reveal my strategy to my brokers or the market makers. I feel totally comfortable this way, and it works for me.
5. I agree about not getting ahead of things by assuming the future. Again, I have repeatedly stated in just this past week alone that while we can determine if the MMs are bulls or bears, we can never know when they will stop moving price the way it is going, and start the run for profits. So when I do make a statement about the run for profits, a Mark Down or a Mark Up run, I am not predicting the time of the event, just the assurance of it.
6. Yes, this thread has the primary purpose to present and demonstrate the Sonic R. System. No person, so far as I know, has been so flagrantly arrogant as to post trades for the sole purpose of proving they are correct. If you are referring to me, and again if you read the thread, you will see I have posted trades that failed miserably. I have even posted trades that made profits, but about which I felt were examples of bad trading! My main reason for posting is to illustrate the growth of a Sonicer, if you will, as proof into the future for all to see, that coming here and working at it over time does work to make a person into a more successful trader! This is something that no one but myself has ever done on Forex Factory. I stuck my neck out over five years ago, and am humbled by the experience of being one of the slower Sonicers to progress. And I also currently post to illustrate an incredibly effective way to use volume. Remember, what we use is Price + Dragon + Trend + Volume, all in conjunction with S&R. And PVSRA is the first truly successful manner of analyzing price and volume in conjunction with S&R, as my postings prove. As such, it is at the essence of the Sonic R. System, and not some fly-by-night-scheme. Those that do not realize it, simply do not have an understanding of the essence of the Sonic R. System.
Hope this helps,
-tah
- #46,754
- Edited 7:00pm Apr 19, 2013 6:31pm | Edited 7:00pm
- Joined Mar 2008 | Status: PVSRA with Traderathome | 23,552 Posts
I good trader should be full of patience. I dont fully agree with #1....You asked okanemici to post a live long trade during the asian session....That would be a profitable trade...I dont care if it didnt reach RWH OR RWL. I agree with #2 and #3 #4 makes me follow you even closer because I cant believe that you let those trades to run -90pips(GU) without close any of them as a loss. Also, something that catch my attention is that when you add a trade I dont see that actual dotted line that says #buy or #sell...there are just random blue lines that...
"You asked okanemici to post a live long trade during the asian session....That would be a profitable trade...I dont care if it didnt reach RWH OR RWL." -Amadeus8
Amadeus8, maybe you didn't understand the challenge. Putting it in the most simple of terms, he was in support of the price rising, and deriding my support of the price not rising based on my analysis the MMs were bears. It really had nothing to do with if price actually reached RWH or RWL, those were just extravagant "talking points."
So, I challenged him to put his money where his mouth was, like I had. I was short. My short trade was posted. I challenged him to put on a long trade, to put his money where his mouth was if he really believed the price would rise. And yes! I did challenge him in the Asian session, when the price was the lowest of all before it ran up later! If he had the guts to put his money where his mouth was he could have made pips, easily 60-70 pips on a long trade! But he was coward to even put on a trade! Those that shrink away from challenges, don't win those challenges! They lose by default. If you cannot understand at least that, then there is nothing more that I, or anyone else could say to you to help you understand.
But, really, I think you do understand. You know full well, as I do, had he gone long he could have made money, but he didn't have enough faith in his own style of trading to take the trade. I did have enough faith in my style of trading to take the trade. Understand therefore, this was the real challenge: a test of faith in what we say. He clearly lost faith, not just the pips he could have made.
-tah
- #46,755
- Edited 7:08pm Apr 19, 2013 6:55pm | Edited 7:08pm
- Joined Nov 2008 | Status: Trader | 50,214 Posts
Honesty is a very expensive gift. You wont find it in cheap people.WBuffett
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- Edited 10:02pm Apr 19, 2013 9:21pm | Edited 10:02pm
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- #46,760
- Edited 10:02pm Apr 19, 2013 9:52pm | Edited 10:02pm
- | Commercial User | Joined Mar 2008 | 9,079 Posts
Closed all GU trades starting from 1.5364. Tried something new and multiplied every position with sell stops when price passed entry points to estimated direction.
With a influx of astute sonikers...
I have a great feeling about future Sonic R..
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