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  • #46,601
  • Apr 18, 2013 10:31am Apr 18, 2013 10:31am
Quoting traderathome
GU Short Trade: Entered short, a Scout based on M1 PVSRA as Asian session MMs worked the price above the half number and then began relatively higher trading, indicating the MMs are bears seeking higher numbers to add shorts. This could be pushed even higher by MMs later, in the LS. No SL, no TP at this time. {image} {image}
GU Short Trade:

Added short trade #2, a Scout based on bear MMs finally driving price above upper whole number and immediately folllowing with extremely high trading which brought the price quickly back down. The PVSRA shows the MMs remain aggressive bears and just heavily added to their short positions. If you wonder why I added so low, I only by chance had just gotten up and to the computer in the final stages of the downdraft. Still, with such an aggressive move by the bear MMs, I have confidence the eventual MARK DOWN run will be substantial (probably next week).
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  • #46,602
  • Apr 18, 2013 10:43am Apr 18, 2013 10:43am
Quoting traderathome
GU Short Trade: Added short trade #2, a Scout based on bear MMs finally driving price above upper whole number and immediately folllowing with extremely high trading which brought the price quickly back down. The PVSRA shows the MMs remain aggressive bears and just heavily added to their short positions. If you wonder why I added so low, I only by chance had just gotten up and to the computer in the final stages of the downdraft. Still, with such an aggressive move by the bear MMs, I have confidence the eventual MARK DOWN run will be substantial...
Funny how that is exactly 13 pips from the last pullback and selloff area

H.
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"The future is already written in the past"
  • #46,603
  • Apr 18, 2013 10:55am Apr 18, 2013 10:55am
EURAUD uptrend continuation... Nice example of 15m & 1h tf trade .
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  • #46,604
  • Apr 18, 2013 11:13am Apr 18, 2013 11:13am
Hi guys, can you explain me the meaning of:

- Stopping volume candle
- Mark down
- żIsland reversal?

This weekend I will start to prepare a PDF gathering all the information I´m learning since I started to study this system. Of course, I will be more than happy to share it in this thread so the new guys can have an easier learning path. We have in this thread 3100 pages, I think a good PDF could be a good idea. My idea is to divide it in key points, something like this:

- SonicR System: Definition
- Why SonicR System?
- Glossary and common terms used in the thread (that's one of the reasons why am I asking about those 3 concepts listed above)
- SonicR system: The classic entry
- PVA/VSA: History (I will probably steal Islander's post if he is ok with that), definition and interpretation
- SonicR system: The scout entry
- SonicR TAH system: Building positions
- Examples and exercises (bull or bear, etc, like TAH normally does)
- More ideas?

Best, Tymedu.
To fail is just an opportunity to learn
  • #46,605
  • Apr 18, 2013 11:17am Apr 18, 2013 11:17am
Looking to short if the higher supply level is reached

Regards,

H.
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  • #46,606
  • Apr 18, 2013 11:22am Apr 18, 2013 11:22am
GBPUSD uptrend possible , caution for shorts ! It made its pullback down to 1.5225 twice, it is in uptrend imho.
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  • #46,607
  • Apr 18, 2013 11:26am Apr 18, 2013 11:26am
Quoting Tymedu
Hi guys, can you explain me the meaning of: - Stopping volume candle - Mark down - żIsland reversal? This weekend I will start to prepare a PDF gathering all the information I´m learning since I started to study this system. Of course, I will be more than happy to share it in this thread so the new guys can have an easier learning path. We have in this thread 3100 pages, I think a good PDF could be a good idea. My idea is to divide it in key points, something like this: - SonicR System: Definition - Why SonicR System? - Glossary and common...
that would be really nice
Price Is The Best Indicator Itself.
  • #46,608
  • Apr 18, 2013 11:36am Apr 18, 2013 11:36am
Some nice setup I was following but missed because of a meeting
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  • #46,609
  • Apr 18, 2013 11:42am Apr 18, 2013 11:42am
Same here

Quoting okanemici
Some nice setup I was following but missed because of a meeting {image}
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  • #46,610
  • Apr 18, 2013 11:57am Apr 18, 2013 11:57am
Quoting okanemici
GBPUSD uptrend possible , caution for shorts ! It made its pullback down to 1.5225 twice, it is in uptrend imho. {image}
Mate, i like your idea.
Less trades but more probability!

I am going to start keep my eyes on it from now.
Everything is possible!!! Step by Step...
  • #46,611
  • Apr 18, 2013 11:58am Apr 18, 2013 11:58am
Hey TAH your next post is your 13000th

Happy 13th millennium or something. Better make it a good one. As ever.
Katte, kabuto no o wo shime yo. Size doesn't matter, leverage is the killer
  • #46,612
  • Apr 18, 2013 12:02pm Apr 18, 2013 12:02pm
Quoting okanemici
GBPUSD uptrend possible , caution for shorts ! It made its pullback down to 1.5225 twice, it is in uptrend imho. {image}
The PVSRA Challenge!

GU is turning out to be the most interesting pair of all because viewing normal PA, it looks bullish. Just look at M15! Dragon angled up and crossed up thru Trend. Trend angled up. PA above both and with the "appearance" of impending break up thru whole number! Wow!

On the other hand, PVSRA continues to show MMs are bears, with constant dedication to their highest trading being done at the various highest prices they achieve!

So, the contest is on! "Trade what you see."? Or first determine if MMs are bulls or bears, then trade what you see!

-tah
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  • #46,613
  • Apr 18, 2013 12:14pm Apr 18, 2013 12:14pm
Quoting traderathome
The PVSRA Challenge! GU is turning out to be the most interesting pair of all because viewing normal PA, it looks bullish. Just look at M15! Dragon angled up and crossed up thru Trend. Trend angled up. PA above both and with the "appearance" of impending break up thru whole number! Wow! On the other hand, PVSRA continues to show MMs are bears, with constant dedication to their highest trading being done at the various highest prices they achieve! So, the contest is on! "Trade what you see."? Or first determine if MMs are bulls or bears, then...
There can be seen two channels on 4h chart on GU. Larger channel up, where price just bounced from channel low. And then there is this smaller channel going down. Price is getting near channel high now. PVSRA is showing MM's selling heavily, but bigger channel holding still

It's going to be exciting to see what happens! At the moment I'm building short position as I have told earlier.
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  • #46,614
  • Apr 18, 2013 12:26pm Apr 18, 2013 12:26pm
Quoting JRissa
There can be seen two channels on 4h chart on GU. Larger channel up, where price just bounced from channel low. And then there is this smaller channel going down. Price is getting near channel high now. PVSRA is showing MM's selling heavily, but bigger channel holding still It's going to be exciting to see what happens! At the moment I'm building short position as I have told earlier. {image}
GU, MMs Bulls or Bears?

And let us not forget the H&S. And look at the candle highlighted yellow,...who in their right mind first hikes the price on themselves before heavily buying at higher prices? And look at the current candle,....the MMs are obviously not eager to re-seek lower prices to do more buying, are they(?)!

One can only guess that the MMs put the price high because that is where they wanted it. And now that they have it up there, they are shorting, and have been shorting all the way up, heavily shorting on the way up and continually heavy shorting now!

Or, one can use PVSRA and not have to guess!

A nice 150% average range move down tomorrow (even less if price drops more today) and the H&S target is reached,.....right at RWL!

-tah
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  • #46,615
  • Apr 18, 2013 12:53pm Apr 18, 2013 12:53pm
The YEN Sting (and the Banks Stink!) Revisited

All you Sonicers know the story on this. I could be wrong, have been before. But Island Reversals on all the YEN pairs at the open next week could make a lot of super-rich and their banks vastly richer!

If you have been following this then you know the setup for the YEN Sting, how it was done and that it obviously is ready for the Sting itself.

The Sting itself is to reverse the gigantic moves up of the YEN pairs, which the super-rich and their banks have been shorting the whole gall durn way up as they suckered in longs! And the most effective Sting of all would be to start the reverse move as something that immediately ensnares existing longs and quickly devastes their accounts,....read that as the "initial transfer of wealth to the super-rich and their banks". This would naturally be followed by relentless undermining of the YEN pair prices to keep the drop healthy and to keep the transfer of wealth going!

What would "this most effective Sting" be? Yep, Island Reversals! If you don't know what that is, I suggest you Google it, but the attached picture (using EJ just as an example of what might be in store for all YEN pairs at the open next week) should give you an idea, and any longs some real pause for thought.

-tah
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  • #46,616
  • Apr 18, 2013 1:02pm Apr 18, 2013 1:02pm
folks have been very exited today and are posting a lot and my question for TAH was left a couple of pages back...it is an interesting one.
  • #46,617
  • Apr 18, 2013 1:19pm Apr 18, 2013 1:19pm
Quoting Amadeus8
I am learning a lot from you all. I finally got how to trade volume and what is PVSRA all about. I just have a question for TAH....Do you say that MMs are short based on the COT report?...large speculators are only 70% net short on the EURUSD, so they are very far way from the bottom. I would think it twice before take any long setup
Who Cares About COT?

No. Someone else provided COT information. But it seems to me that if you mean by "....large speculators are only 70% net short" then that impies well over half of their investments are on the short side. That would not be "....very far way from the bottom." It would mean most of their money is placed on shorts!

Anyway, I have no use for COT as I care less what the MMs positions are. What I care about is what the MMs are doing now, and PVSRA tells me that! And I agree, going long was not, and would not be a good idea.

-tah
  • #46,618
  • Apr 18, 2013 1:24pm Apr 18, 2013 1:24pm
You should open a thread on PVSRA
  • #46,619
  • Edited 2:10pm Apr 18, 2013 1:39pm | Edited 2:10pm
Quoting Amadeus8
You should open a thread on PVSRA
PVSRA

I disagree because PVSRA is the culmination of all the work done on using volume within the Sonic R. System, since volume was added almost five years ago to replace all the other price derivative indicators that had been tried with the basic system up to that time.

PVSAR is an achievement which now makes volume an equally valuable partner with Price, Dragon and Trend,....the very few, but very important indicators used by the Sonic R. System.

Indeed, PVSRA now makes volume and price the two most important indicators of the four because PVSRA tells us which Classic, or Classic re-entry setups (as defined by PA waves, the Dragon and the Trend) to take, and which to avoid!

So far, this is shaping up as a monumental breakthru for the Sonic R. System.

-tah
  • #46,620
  • Apr 18, 2013 2:14pm Apr 18, 2013 2:14pm
Hey -tah. Can you tell me or can you explain me, what is causing this kind of difference?

My real account is running on one broker and demo is running on the other broker. A lot of candles are totally different, on demo has example 4 candles, but on the real has 3 candle. There are lot of differences on these pictures. It's driving me crazy. Is it caused by broker?
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