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  • #46,501
  • Apr 17, 2013 2:41pm Apr 17, 2013 2:41pm
Quoting Islander
If I may, I will offer a brief history lesson. Volume Spread Analysis is the name of a system of analysing the movements of price bars in relation to the volume generated in each bar. It was developed by Tom Williams during the 1990s. Tom Williams was a Floor Trader in the NYSE pits and when he returned to England - he was then in his sixties - he formalised the VSA methodology of analysing price movements in relation to the actions of the "big money" in the Stock Market. Home computers were then just becoming generally available - this was pre...
Islander,

I'm impressed by your "resume". No, not impressed....intimidated!

I think maybe this thread is starting to attract a world of experience represented in those that arrive. Maybe it is time for me to become more silent and let the exchange of experiences and information freely flow, not to the destruction of the Sonic R. System and it's simplicity, but for the greater appreciation of just what it is that we are all cavorting with.

Welcome Indeed,
-tah
  • #46,502
  • Apr 17, 2013 2:56pm Apr 17, 2013 2:56pm
Quoting hutrader
GU possible stopping volume. {image}
GU Stopping Volume

Yes, good call.

The bear MMs have taken price below the half number, a place they like to close shorts/open longs. Not so sure about full bore opening of longs here because this could have a good deal more downside to go (ref: H4 H&S formation in play). So, the MMs might remain bears, but closing some shorts and maybe planning to rehike the price a bit to reload those shorts at higher prices. In this vein then, one thing to estimate is to where bear MMs might hike the price to reload shorts. Perhaps an area around 1.5288, give or take, since that seems well centered within previous ranging (off to left on an M15 chart).

Need time and more PA now to further analyze.
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  • #46,503
  • Apr 17, 2013 3:12pm Apr 17, 2013 3:12pm
Quoting traderathome
UJ Short Trade: Added short trade #3, a Scout based on my PVSRA. Looking for one more Scout if bear MMs get price to half number. Edit: Added short trade #4, Scout. Price has not made it to half number and might not, so I took #4 entry here. {image}
UJ Short Trade:

Added short trade #5, a Scout. Suddenly, out of nowhere, the MMs drove the price up hard to above whole number again with high volumes up there. There I added this Scout. I see no major news, but I recognize what a quick push and higher volumes can mean, especially when this is occuring as the MMs hike the price up thru a whole number. The MMs are either closing longs or opening more shorts. It seems a poor time to look for liquidity to do anything, but the bear MMs have been executing a pullup to take advantage of the low activity of the market after the LS closed. So, I figured this was the last spurt to the finish line of the retrace, where the MMs would be adding more shorts and I took the risk of adding another short myself. I could be wrong.
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  • #46,504
  • Apr 17, 2013 3:23pm Apr 17, 2013 3:23pm
Quoting traderathome
UJ Short Trade: Added short trade #5, a Scout. Suddenly, out of nowhere, the MMs drove the price up hard to above whole number again with high volumes up there. There I added this Scout. I see no major news, but I recognize what a quick push and higher volumes can mean, especially when this is occuring as the MMs hike the price up thru a whole number. The MMs are either closing longs or opening more shorts. It seems a poor time to look for liquidity to do anything, but the bear MMs have been executing a pullup to take advantage of the low activity...
I am currently not home but look at the activity so late. Usually it is much lower this time of the evening.
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  • #46,505
  • Edited 4:37pm Apr 17, 2013 3:31pm | Edited 4:37pm
Quoting hutrader
I am currently not home but look at the activity so late. Usually it is much lower this time of the evening. {image}
YEN Pairs Pumped Late in Day!

Indeed, something has motivated the bear MMs to hasten the retrace and load up with more shorts perhaps sooner than planned. Guess we will have to just wait and see what comes later. This has happened with all the YEN pairs.

Wonder if it has something to do with the potential for "Island Reversals" I mentioned earlier? Are the bear MMs are increasing their short building activity in the remaining time this week in preparations for a large gap down next week,....Island Reversals on all the YEN pairs?

Lots of "maybe" and little else except for the potential that it could happen, and this additional thought. All YEN pairs have soared to significant highs. If the MMs pull off Island Reversal gap downs on all of them next week, and work to keep the prices plummeting, they could pull off the coup of the decade! Huge fortunes could be made in quick fashion!

I have been talking about the YEN Sting (and the Banks Stink!) and this could be the last part of it! The YEN pair were driven up by bear MMs shorting the entire way as they kept prices moving higher encouraging long entries to provide the liquidity for their shorting. All that remained once the super-rich and their banks (MMs) were fully loaded up on shorts, was to get their "talking head" (Kuroda of BOJ) to back peddle on the need to keep the YEN devalued in the forex market, which he has done! So gee, surprise new week Island Reversal opens of the YEN pairs with downwards pressure kept up by the MMs and these super-rich and their banks make vast fortunes. We all know how far and fast the MMs can push them, while the suckered longs around the world sit in astonishment and watch their accounts quickly go bye-bye!

Ok, I'll label this as speculative, though it could be an incredibly quick and effective manner in which to initiate the completion phase of the YEN Sting.

-tah
  • #46,506
  • Apr 17, 2013 4:17pm Apr 17, 2013 4:17pm
Quoting traderathome
Islander, I'm impressed by your "resume". No, not impressed....intimidated! I think maybe this thread is starting to attract a world of experience represented in those that arrive. Maybe it is time for me to become more silent and let the exchange of experiences and information freely flow, not to the destruction of the Sonic R. System and it's simplicity, but for the greater appreciation of just what it is that we are all cavorting with. Welcome Indeed, -tah
Thanks TAH for your kind words.

Nobody should underestimate what your own contribution is worth to this thread. The time and effort to make the quality of posts whilst putting up with uncalled for criticism is outstsnding and is IMO the reason for this thread's success. Long may you continue.

Kind regards

Islander
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  • #46,507
  • Apr 17, 2013 4:27pm Apr 17, 2013 4:27pm
Whoops - I forgot to post a chart.

I'd finished my day ~the European close - 16:00, so I missed the last part of the fall - and now look where the retrace has just got to......the 50% level and an S&R level too....~150 pips of easy money, so I hope plenty of Sonicers got onboard..... see you guys in the morning....
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Trading Levels with WRBs
  • #46,508
  • Apr 17, 2013 4:34pm Apr 17, 2013 4:34pm
Quoting traderathome
YEN Pairs Pumped Late in Day! Indeed, something has motivated the bear MMs to hasten the retrace and load up with more shorts perhaps sooner than planned. Guess we will have to just wait and see what comes later. This has happened with all the YEN pairs. Wonder if it has something to do with the potential for "Island Reversals" I mentioned earlier? Are the bear MMs are increasing their short building activity in the remaining time this week in preparations for a large gap down next week,....Island Reversals on all the YEN pairs? Lots of "maybe"...
Yes indeed, very intresting volume spikes. If they take out the day high I think it is unstoppable.the low of the wick is the line that shouldn't breal
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  • #46,509
  • Edited 5:20pm Apr 17, 2013 4:53pm | Edited 5:20pm
Quoting hutrader
Yes indeed, very intresting volume spikes. If they take out the day high I think it is unstoppable.the low of the wick is the line that shouldn't breal {image}
UJ and a PVSRA Lesson

A good pullback. And it actually makes PA look bullish (on the surface). Probably just the way the bear MMs want it to look. Bring the price back up and sort of keep it up, as though it might break to the upside later (and maybe they will head fake that, too). All this should certainly encourage more longs to the slaughter, but providing right now the liquidity the bear MMs need for their shorting. The slaughter of the longs will come later.

Look at M1. See that very short candle at near the very top of the recent highs (highlighted yellow)? Now look at the volume bar! Who in their right mind drives price to highs and then increases their buying? This is just another PVSRA gem! Wanna guess now if the MMs are bulls or bears? Which is the point I make! With PVSRA there is no guessing! You know with absolute certainty what the MMs are doing, if they are bulls or bears. No other indicator or combination of indicators on the planet can match the real-time effectiveness of what we are doing here, and which leads to increased profitability of trading!

-tah
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  • #46,510
  • Apr 17, 2013 5:27pm Apr 17, 2013 5:27pm
Get Out of Jail, Go Home Free Card!

Msis125125, you've been bailed out (good natured soul that I am)! Go home. Rest.

I hope during your incarceration that you found your way to Page #1, Post #1, link #1 and have read all the instructions of the releasing post and all of the User Notes in the compiles of the indicators and have also kept up with my current postings relative to PVSRA (even before I coined the term). Really, all your questions should be answered by now if you have.

However, if perchance you still have some questions that I have already answered, please don't fret because there is an empty cell here you can use anytime.

-tah
  • #46,511
  • Apr 17, 2013 5:43pm Apr 17, 2013 5:43pm
AU Short Trade:

Entered short trade #1, a Classic re-entry based on MMs hiking price above whole number followed by increased trading at the relative highs thereafter. This PVSRA says the MMs are bears and are shorting again at what might be (and might not be) the top of a retrace move upwards following the run down previously.
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  • #46,512
  • Apr 17, 2013 6:21pm Apr 17, 2013 6:21pm
Quoting traderathome
Get Out of Jail, Go Home Free Card! Msis125125, you've been bailed out (good natured soul that I am)! Go home. Rest. I hope during your incarceration that you found your way to Page #1, Post #1, link #1 and have read all the instructions of the releasing post and all of the User Notes in the compiles of the indicators and have also kept up with my current postings relative to PVSRA (even before I coined the term). Really, all your questions should be answered by now if you have. However, if perchance you still have some questions that I have already...

WOW I am touched! Thank you!

I have kept with post. Although I think from now on I just observe, as I have been doing before, my contribution don't seem to matter in here.

Once again thank you for letting me out of jail.

Msi
There is no spoon....
  • #46,513
  • Apr 17, 2013 6:41pm Apr 17, 2013 6:41pm
Quoting Msis125125
WOW I am touched! Thank you! I have kept with post. Although I think from now on I just observe, as I have been doing before, my contribution don't seem to matter in here. Once again thank you for letting me out of jail. Msi
Msis125125,

Contributions by Sonicers, all Sonicers matter.

It is easy to think otherwise when posting and maybe feeling ignored, or worse....that you are singled out for some ridiculous "infraction".

Nevertheless, they matter. They matter to other Sonicers looking to get their "feet wet" posting but feel intimidated from doing so, and need to see others like themselves posting. They matter to all Sonicers that maybe "missed" a valid and important consideration being posted. They matter to the poster, in that if their posts can be improved for the good of thread as a manual of the Sonic R. System in ways they never even thought about, and they are a true Sonicer, then that becomes an important milestone for them.

You are doing fine, and in whatever areas need improvement, there is nothing wrong that more reading won't rectify.

Please understand I never intend to stifle the free exchange of any information that can help any trader here improve. There is, however, the paramount responsibility to preserve the Sonic R. System and it's elegant simplicity and effectiveness. So, like a dog guarding property, I might suddenly start barking loudly at an intrusion perceived as threatening. That barking takes a lot out of an old dog. So, obviously there is often times little energy left to deal with the minor aggravation of someone asking questions at the wrong time. So, I just bark again.

Welcome back from jail, and I look forward to your next post (with pic, w/o previously answered questions).

-tah
  • #46,514
  • Apr 17, 2013 6:57pm Apr 17, 2013 6:57pm
USDJPY

SELL STOP 97.906

SL 98.442

TP 1 91.460

TP 2 96.256

Reason 2 Top on h1 with TMA TOUCH

SELL STOP CAUSE IT MIGHT SHOT LONG TO TAKE SL ON TOP


ALSO HEAD AND SHOULDERS ON M15
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There is no spoon....
  • #46,515
  • Apr 17, 2013 7:08pm Apr 17, 2013 7:08pm
Quoting Msis125125
USDJPY SELL STOP 97.906 SL 98.442 TP 1 91.460 TP 2 96.256 Reason 2 Top on h1 with TMA TOUCH SELL STOP CAUSE IT MIGHT SHOT LONG TO TAKE SL ON TOP ALSO HEAD AND SHOULDERS ON M15 {image}

TADA!!!!
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There is no spoon....
  • #46,516
  • Apr 17, 2013 8:23pm Apr 17, 2013 8:23pm
Quoting Msis125125
USDJPY SELL STOP 97.906 SL 98.442 TP 1 91.460 TP 2 96.256 Reason 2 Top on h1 with TMA TOUCH SELL STOP CAUSE IT MIGHT SHOT LONG TO TAKE SL ON TOP ALSO HEAD AND SHOULDERS ON M15 {image}
Quoting Msis125125
TADA!!!! {image}
UJ:

TADA!

And your TP1 = 97.46, not 91.46, right? Great entry positioning for this short trade, too. Congratulations! Only other comment I can think of is that Sonicers won't likely understand the reference to TMA. And true Sonicers won't care.

-tah
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  • #46,517
  • Apr 17, 2013 9:04pm Apr 17, 2013 9:04pm
Quoting traderathome
EU Inverted Week H&S Afarensis, I had forgotten. Thank you. I think the reason I forgot it is due to my focus on MMs, bulls or bears. They continue to be bears. But again, thank you for posting the reminder, because we can never know when the MMs might switch again. BTW, please just refer to me as TAH. Sonicdeejay is the true Master of the Sonic R. System. I am his student, and probably one of the most slow to grow ones at that. -tah {image}
maybe inverter h&S and maybe H&S form, no one know which is real MM plant until he show his way
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FROM ZERO TO HERO
  • #46,518
  • Apr 17, 2013 9:24pm Apr 17, 2013 9:24pm
Quoting traderathome
UJ: TADA! And your TP1 = 97.46, not 91.46, right? Great entry positioning for this short trade, too. Congratulations! Only other comment I can think of is that Sonicers won't likely understand the reference to TMA. And true Sonicers won't care. -tah {image}

Correct with TP! Sorry its late here, so I am a bit messed up with numbers!
There is no spoon....
  • #46,519
  • Apr 17, 2013 9:53pm Apr 17, 2013 9:53pm
Quoting JRissa
Needed to find this earlier post of yours, because I'd like to hear when you have been wrong? You keep saying that:"I might be wrong, have been before " but in fact I haven't seen any unsuccessfull trade set from you? I know; offtopic, but your trade results and way you read market is, from my point of view, phenomenal No pic, no post, so here's my daughter on her 8month birthday {image}
i am also very admire about TAH analysis about the market, and since i follow the way he used my trading result increase significant.
Thank alot for Prof TAH and master SonicDeejay for sharing....

NPNP....
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  • #46,520
  • Apr 17, 2013 10:17pm Apr 17, 2013 10:17pm
Quoting jasakreatif
TAH style ... 1 2 3 Pattern {image}
who said it stopped ?? i move the stop
got doubledown too... bonus at fast move moment
just closed after posted.

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