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  • #46,481
  • Apr 17, 2013 11:20am Apr 17, 2013 11:20am
EU Potential H&S

This potential formation is still over 250 pips away from reality. The price drop today was 150%+ average. At this rate the neckline could be reach before the end of the week.
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  • #46,482
  • Apr 17, 2013 11:31am Apr 17, 2013 11:31am
Quoting traderathome
EU Potential H&S This potential formation is still over 250 pips away from reality. The price drop today was 150%+ average. At this rate the neckline could be reach before the end of the week. {image}
Hey master...do not forget this inverted H&S (weekly) is still in play..
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  • #46,483
  • Apr 17, 2013 11:32am Apr 17, 2013 11:32am
Quoting fex
Might be a good time for a scout long? Are MMs buying? Double bottom on high TF. {image} {image}
Could be a good time for a second long scout entry?
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  • #46,484
  • Apr 17, 2013 11:33am Apr 17, 2013 11:33am
Quoting Tymedu
All my EU trades closed for today. Tomorrow will be another day. Thanks to this thread, TAH and Sonic I already have 815pips this months, not bad at all. And the most important, I´m learning as a beast xD.
Sonicers,

This is what this thread is all about! This is the nature of the fruit from all the efforts made by Master Sonicdeejay. The tree of fruit is growing.

-traderathome
  • #46,485
  • Apr 17, 2013 11:39am Apr 17, 2013 11:39am
Quoting Afarensis
Hey master...do not forget this inverted H&S (weekly) is still in play.. {image}
EU Inverted Week H&S

Afarensis, I had forgotten. Thank you. I think the reason I forgot it is due to my focus on MMs, bulls or bears. They continue to be bears. But again, thank you for posting the reminder, because we can never know when the MMs might switch again.

BTW, please just refer to me as TAH. Sonicdeejay is the true Master of the Sonic R. System. I am his student, and probably one of the most slow to grow ones at that.

-tah
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  • #46,486
  • Apr 17, 2013 11:58am Apr 17, 2013 11:58am
TAH

Is May 2012 the latest release?

http://www.forexfactory.com/showthre...95#post5627895

Think I probably got mine off page 1.
Katte, kabuto no o wo shime yo. Size doesn't matter, leverage is the killer
  • #46,487
  • Edited 12:26pm Apr 17, 2013 12:00pm | Edited 12:26pm
Quoting Islander
Do your home work - read the thread's firrst post and say the next 10 pages, then skip a bit and read say the last 50 pages and you will find this has been answered several times before and TAH is fed up with repeating himself..... Oh - and how can a simple MT4 indicator be compared with VSA which is a complete methodology started by Tom Williams?
What Was the SonicR VSA Indicator All About?

It was not all about the Better Volumes indicator which was the precursor to the now commercially available VSA in TradeGuider ($1,800 sometimes). I have never read earlier material on VSA (ref: Tom Williams).

It was about using what I considered to be the single most valuable part of the Better Volumes indicator (the volume spread analysis 'VSA' part), modifying it, and marrying that to the SonicR Volume indicator. The result was to highlight the two most significant volume events: when price x spread is significantly high, and when the average volume rises significantly. The highlighting itself was further enhanced by introducing the matching color coded price candles and volume bars. All this is stated in the User Notes and postings around the time of the release of the SonicR VSA indicator.

The next volume indicator I have planned for release will be a tweaking of our current indicator, the name being changed partly for the reason that I do not want our volume indicator to be associated anymore with VSA because it is a far cry from VSA,......ours is better, much better imho, and especially when using volume in the very best way it can be used, to determine if MMs are bulls or bears (and it is free)!

-tah
  • #46,488
  • Apr 17, 2013 12:03pm Apr 17, 2013 12:03pm
Quoting revoli
TAH Is May 2012 the latest release? http://www.forexfactory.com/showthre...95#post5627895 Think I probably got mine off page 1.
revoli,

Yes, sir. That is the one.
  • #46,489
  • Apr 17, 2013 12:06pm Apr 17, 2013 12:06pm
Sorry I was being thick, that is on page one just under different file name. Dah.
Katte, kabuto no o wo shime yo. Size doesn't matter, leverage is the killer
  • #46,490
  • Edited 12:23pm Apr 17, 2013 12:12pm | Edited 12:23pm
Quoting revoli
Sorry I was being thick, that is on page one just under different file name. Dah.
Revoli, no problem. As you have already witnessed, we have no lack of thick headed folks around here.

(Ops. I probably are one myself!)

So, it is fortunate is it not, that the Sonic R. System is elegantly simple and effective?

(Wow! Humor without the crutch of plagerized cartoons! What a day!)

-tah
  • #46,491
  • Apr 17, 2013 12:42pm Apr 17, 2013 12:42pm
Closed USDCHF Longs from yesterday. Total +91 pips.
TAH you still holding it?
  • #46,492
  • Edited 1:52pm Apr 17, 2013 12:50pm | Edited 1:52pm
Quoting emmanuel7788
Hey buddy, You are in the money with EJ. That's good making money while still in jail. Sorry I don't seem to find the key to unlock you... not yet, you must wait. I posted the MTF Volume indicator a few post above. Look for that. Tell me how you want your PV candles to show in other colours. Wouldn't that be nice when you are looking at M15 chart and you can see the M1 Volume candle popping up and down. BTW, your EJ has a Day Inside Bar breakout potential, lets see how far it will run ... 129.90, 130.20 and 131.00 .... manage to its fullest run...
Quoting traderathome
EJ: With all the talk here about buying, wouldn't it be funny if this becomes an Island Reversal, catching longs with their pants down! All YEN pairs look alike in this regard. Island Reversals across the board,....what a coup by the bear MMs that would be! -tah {image}
EJ to 129.90, 130.20 and 131.00....

Well, that bit of frivolous projecting based on individual candle analysis didn't turn out so well.

Bull MMs can and do put on bear moves to draw in shorts so they can build longs, and later drive prices up for profit. Bear MMs can and do put on bull moves to draw in longs so they can build shorts, and later drive prices down for profits. Knowing if MMs are bulls or bears is a superior basis for analyzing candles and making trading decisions.

And to best determine if MMs are bulls or bears, the top indicator available which will be needed is the currently released SonicR VSA indicator. And that indicator will have to be used in the proper analysis of price, volume and S&R following the PVSRA method.

For the PVSRA method, read my trading and comment posts starting back about a couple of weeks, and then keep up with my trade and comment posts because that is all there is going to be on this method until the PVSRA project is completed.

-tah
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  • #46,493
  • Apr 17, 2013 1:16pm Apr 17, 2013 1:16pm
If I may, I will offer a brief history lesson.

Volume Spread Analysis is the name of a system of analysing the movements of price bars in relation to the volume generated in each bar. It was developed by Tom Williams during the 1990s. Tom Williams was a Floor Trader in the NYSE pits and when he returned to England - he was then in his sixties - he formalised the VSA methodology of analysing price movements in relation to the actions of the "big money" in the Stock Market.

Home computers were then just becoming generally available - this was pre internet as we know it today - and he started selling his VSA software together with a ring binder which later became the book - Master The Markets.

When spending a week in London I went to Tom's home in Brighton on the English Channel and spent a day with him and he sold me one of the first copies of his system - I was then doing some part time trading of options on the FTSE Index - London's Dow Jones.

In 2005 Tom sold his system to I think Gavin Homes and it was launched as Trade Guider at the Chicago Expo in July 2005 - I was there when it happened and despite much high pressure sales talk and offers of huge discounts, I was not a buyer.

Recently here in FF, Malcolmb14, HiddenGap and Shamus have continued to work with VSA and if I remember correctly, HiddenGap developed the BetterVolume indicator.

So VSA was developed to help trading Stock Markets, where there is a centralised Exchange with total transparency and accuracy in reported volumes.......Forex is NOT the same and hence needs a variation of Tom's idea to help us guys trade - and IMO its essential to use tick volume (activity) information as part of a trader's information to make his trading decisions.

If you have read this thread as suggested, then you will have - thanks to Sonic and TAH - the information to truly Master The Forex Market.....provided you do DO THE NECESSARY WORK!!

May you harvest many pips

Islander
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  • #46,494
  • Edited 1:44pm Apr 17, 2013 1:23pm | Edited 1:44pm
Quoting hutrader
Closed USDCHF Longs from yesterday. Total +91 pips. TAH you still holding it?
UChf:

Yes, hutrader, I am. I am holding it out of anticipation the price might land near RWH by the time the week ends. And you have +91 pips! Congratulations!!!
  • #46,495
  • Apr 17, 2013 1:24pm Apr 17, 2013 1:24pm
Quoting okanemici
Keep asking my live trades ? I already posted them, POST 46256, but cant post them always because I'm mobile most of the time. Long euraud, long eurnzd both up around 200 pips and closed allready ! Now I wonder if anybody followed your usdcad and usdchf longs when they were being shorted and someone blown his account or what Someone with poor money management could have easily blown his account with that kind of trading.Emmanuel has a point in his criticisims. No offence and wish you placed 1h 34 and dragon on your 15 m posts, it could be very...

DAMN! You blew up another account by trading against TAH?
  • #46,496
  • Apr 17, 2013 2:04pm Apr 17, 2013 2:04pm
Used m1 volume to reenter short.

Main target few pips above 2970.

Regards,

H.
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"The future is already written in the past"
  • #46,497
  • Apr 17, 2013 2:08pm Apr 17, 2013 2:08pm
Quoting traderathome
Big Pips Against Trade, Big Draw Down Too? Spitt, you're new relatively speaking. I've responded to this question at other times too, long in the past. My statements back then I'll repeat. This is a crazy way to trade (just like the professionals do) and cannot be done unless either you have unlimited ability to increase the margin you trade on (just like the professionals do) or you trade very, very, very light relative to account(s) size. That's it. Oh, and I don't recommend this manner of trading (not yet anyway, because I am still growing with...
Needed to find this earlier post of yours, because I'd like to hear when you have been wrong?
You keep saying that:"I might be wrong, have been before " but in fact I haven't seen any unsuccessfull trade set from you?

I know; offtopic, but your trade results and way you read market is, from my point of view, phenomenal

No pic, no post, so here's my daughter on her 8month birthday
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I know the secret...
  • #46,498
  • Apr 17, 2013 2:14pm Apr 17, 2013 2:14pm
Quoting traderathome
UChf Long Trade: Entered long. Technically, this is a Scout long, but it also can be considered a re-entry to an initial PA waveform now that price has been pulled back down to/below the original EP area by the MMs. From the PVA you can see the high relative volumes previously when the MMs drove the price well below the whole number. Further to the left on the chart you can see two other dips below the whole number that also involved high volumes. This indicates the MMs are bulls and repeatedly seeking lows at which to add longs. Since it is early...
Quoting traderathome
UChf Long Trade: Added long trades #2 and #3, both Scouts based on MMs driving the price back down well below the whole number, with high volumes coming in at the lows (M1 confirmed). Still no SL is set. TP1 is entered, but if price does not make it there before the close today, I might close trade out if price does run sufficiently high. {image} {image}
Quoting traderathome
UChf Long Trade: Moments before the market closed, I added long trade #4, a Scout based on the fact the MMs had driven the price down hard and were trading at exceptionally high levels at the bottom (M1 confirmed, really confirmed.....huge buying at the lows of the day!). {image} {image}
Quoting traderathome
UChf Long Trade: Added long trade #5, a Scout. {image}
UChf Long Trade:

Closed all five trades for 5x60= 300 pips gain, average EPx5 to close at TP2. I had planned to hold and see if price made it closer to RWH before the end of the week. It still might, but currently there is PVSRA showing possible profit taking at highs. So, I closed all the trades and will continue to analyze and see if there might be a pullback and some reloading of longs.
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  • #46,499
  • Apr 17, 2013 2:28pm Apr 17, 2013 2:28pm
GU possible stopping volume.
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  • #46,500
  • Apr 17, 2013 2:29pm Apr 17, 2013 2:29pm
Quoting JRissa
Needed to find this earlier post of yours, because I'd like to hear when you have been wrong? You keep saying that:"I might be wrong, have been before " but in fact I haven't seen any unsuccessfull trade set from you? I know; offtopic, but your trade results and way you read market is, from my point of view, phenomenal No pic, no post, so here's my daughter on her 8month birthday {image}
JRissa,

Wow! You are blessed with a beautiful daughter. What a reason to be a successful trader! (hint: as they grow older they like lots of new shoes! )
Truly, truly a beautiful little girl (and I don't think I am wrong on this one), congratulations!

-tah
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