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  • #46,381
  • Edited 1:37pm Apr 16, 2013 1:23pm | Edited 1:37pm
Well, it is sad to see you still longing this .It was a nice performance from MM to drive prices up and short the hell out of it ! You better stick to Master Sonic's rules more. Flat 1h dragon and 34 was the sign here.Plus 34 below 89.That note on chart " Wait for 0.9340 or 0.94 to long this has a reason to be there " !





Quoting traderathome
PVA in Conjunction with S&R Reveals What Price With Other Indicators Cannot Reveal! Okanemici, yes your black chart shows a down trend. What it does not show, what it can never show by price bars and other indicators, with the exclusion of volume, is the ending of the down trend. I don't trade price bars and other indicators. I trade price and volume analyzed in conjunction with S&R, for both Sonic R. System Classic and Scout trades. My UChf long trade is improving. It could still drop again, but it is improving. BTW, my count was incorrect. I made...
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  • #46,382
  • Edited 2:05pm Apr 16, 2013 1:40pm | Edited 2:05pm
Quoting okanemici
Well, it is sad to see you still longing this .It was a nice performance from MM to drive prices up and short the hell out of it ! You better stick to Master Sonic's rules more. Flat 1h dragon and 34 was the sign here.That note on chart " Wait for 0.9340 or 0.94 to long this has a reason to be there " ! {image} {image}
Sad and Handing Out Free Advice?

Why sad?

I don't trade just PA, not when bull MMs can pull off bearish PA to get prices lower to close shorts/add longs, and bear MMs can pull off bullish PA to get prices higher to close longs/add shorts! I use due diligence analysis of price, volume, S&R and the status of intra-day PA swings. I trade what I see and nobody can dispute the results I am getting. By corrected count that is 1289 pips gained two weeks ago, 1891 pips gained last week, and 1040 pips gained so far this week. These are all from real-time trades I have posted here on this thread. Where are your real-time trade postings?

BTW, if you want a clue then notice that throughout all the itsy bitsy cycles since the price was torpedoed, the higher volumes are in the lower part of every one of those cycles! If the MMs manage to get the price below the lower whole number, I'll add another Scout long. I won't before that happens because there is a good chance it will come to pass. Bull MMs prefer to conclude below whole numbers their bearish price drives down to close shorts/add longs. So, if they get the price there, that is what they will be doing, adding longs. So will I.


-tah
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  • #46,383
  • Apr 16, 2013 1:47pm Apr 16, 2013 1:47pm
Also warned that a tight stop is needed and short coming !



Quoting okanemici
I just try to make safer trades , if that is a crime I do it ) Again I'm not here for competition and mostly I'm mobile and cant post trades.I just thought mtf mas could be helpfull to some others.You made a good scout trade and maybe you should consider your usdchf long and put a tight stop.Perhaps a short coming ?? {image}
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  • #46,384
  • Apr 16, 2013 1:57pm Apr 16, 2013 1:57pm
Sad because it was a good free advice and wasted Longing now could be only good for some averaging up to 0.9270 maybe , Good luck Professor

Quoting traderathome
Sad and Handing Out Free Advice? Why sad? I don't trade just PA, not when bull MMs can pull off bearish PA to get prices lower to close shorts/add longs, and bear MMs can pull off bullish PA to get prices higher to close longs/add shorts! I use due diligence analysis of price, volume, S&R and the status of intra-day PA swings. I trade what I see and nobody can dispute the results I am getting. BTW, if you want a clue then notice that throughout all the itsy bitsy cycles since the price was torpedoed, the higher volumes are in the lower part of every...
  • #46,385
  • Apr 16, 2013 2:05pm Apr 16, 2013 2:05pm
my view.
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  • #46,386
  • Apr 16, 2013 2:06pm Apr 16, 2013 2:06pm
Hi guys, I would like some help. I saw that SonicR Panel indicator has the lines that are drawn on the chart, and I'd like to know how can I have only those 25 pip defining levels. I searched the indicator settings but couldn't find anything clear so can anyone tell me where to find them and how to change their value? Thanks.
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  • #46,387
  • Apr 16, 2013 2:11pm Apr 16, 2013 2:11pm
Quoting okanemici
Sad because it was a good free advice and wasted Longing now could be only good for some averaging up to 0.9270 maybe , Good luck Professor
Traders Should Ignore "Luck"

Don't wish me luck, okanemici. I don't need it. I have an improved style of trading the Sonic R. System that I shall call the Sonic TAH trade. Tell you what, you post your trades live like I do. We will see who gets the better results.

-tah
  • #46,388
  • Apr 16, 2013 2:16pm Apr 16, 2013 2:16pm
Carefull with shorting GU.
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  • #46,389
  • Apr 16, 2013 2:17pm Apr 16, 2013 2:17pm
Quoting hutrader
my view. {image}
Hutrader, I agree with you. It is even possible that UChf is simply following in the foosteps of UCad, just maybe about two weeks behind it.

-tah
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  • #46,390
  • Apr 16, 2013 2:28pm Apr 16, 2013 2:28pm
Quoting hutrader
Carefull with shorting GU. {image}
About your GU Week chart (black chart), I disagree. MMs have driven the price back to previous SR area (black rectangle). Last week candle (yellow) was indicision candle. This week candle is maybe where the MMs have decided on a final bullish looking move to bring in the longs so the MMs can close longs and reopen shorts.

This is too large a TF to be much sure of anything. One must wait too long for confirmation of anything. I prefer M15-M1, no matter how long I must give the MMs to play out their strategies, because these time frames yield real-time information about whether the MMs are bulls or bears.

-tah
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  • #46,391
  • Apr 16, 2013 2:32pm Apr 16, 2013 2:32pm
Quoting traderathome
On your Weekly (black chart), I disagree. MMs have driven the price back to previous SR area (black rectangle). Last week candle (yellow) was indicision candle. This week candle is maybe where the MMs have decided on a final bullish looking move to bring in the longs so the MMs can close longs and reopen shorts. This is too large a TF to be much sure of anything. One must wait too long for confirmation of anything. I prefer M15-M1, no matter how long I must give the MMs to play out their strategies, because these time frames yield real-time information...
That is the COT report TAH. As you can see the large specs have tremendous big shorts. As far as I could see they have never had so many outstanding shorts.
That is the Green line.

The red line are the small specs. It seems that large and commercials are trading against each other but small specs move the price of GU. It would be nice if GU came down and small specs start to cover, then we might indeed see the 1.58XX+
  • #46,392
  • Apr 16, 2013 2:37pm Apr 16, 2013 2:37pm
Quoting traderathome
Sad and Handing Out Free Advice? Why sad? I don't trade just PA, not when bull MMs can pull off bearish PA to get prices lower to close shorts/add longs, and bear MMs can pull off bullish PA to get prices higher to close longs/add shorts! I use due diligence analysis of price, volume, S&R and the status of intra-day PA swings. I trade what I see and nobody can dispute the results I am getting. By corrected count that is 1289 pips gained two weeks ago, 1891 pips gained last week, and 1040 pips gained so far this week. These are all from real-time...
Ah! Now I get it how you use volume! Not only in single candles, but also the way you just described on this screenshot. Excellent stuff, as always
I know the secret...
  • #46,393
  • Edited 2:57pm Apr 16, 2013 2:45pm | Edited 2:57pm
Quoting hutrader
That is the COT report TAH. As you can see the large specs have tremendous big shorts. As far as I could see they have never had so many outstanding shorts. That is the Green line. The red line are the small specs. It seems that large and commercials are trading against each other but small specs move the price of GU. It would be nice if GU came down and small specs start to cover, then we might indeed see the 1.58XX+
Hutrader,

Does it not stand to reason, if the COT report confirms the large speculators have "tremendous big shorts" then the price is destined to go back down? These are the well monied outfits that can move price in either direction to the tune that they want to use their money to do so; MMs. If they are entrenched in shorts, you can well bet they will eventually execute the MARK DOWN run(s) to make their profits on them. When that happens the only upside moves after that will be if they close patches of shorts on the way down and then rehike the price a bit to reload them as each rehike again draws in longs.

Until GU puts in a double bottom on (view a Week chart), at this point things overall look more bearish than bullish.

-tah
  • #46,394
  • Apr 16, 2013 3:13pm Apr 16, 2013 3:13pm
Quoting bogdan89
Hi guys, I would like some help. I saw that SonicR Panel indicator has the lines that are drawn on the chart, and I'd like to know how can I have only those 25 pip defining levels. I searched the indicator settings but couldn't find anything clear so can anyone tell me where to find them and how to change their value? Thanks.
Control of "Levels"

The SonicR Control Panel indicator places "Levels" on the chart as a background. The ON/OFF for this feature is near the top of the external inputs. When ON, lines will appear at whole number levels, and can also (by default) have them appear at 1/4, 1/2 and 3/4 levels between whole numbers. The ON/OFF controls for these other levels is much further down in the external inputs in the section "Individual Levels Settings:"

You cannot have any unique selection of lines that does not include the whole number levels also displaying. And don't ask, because I am not changing that. Whole and half levels are paramount S&R regardless of all historic PA! The quarter levels are the least important of the three.

-tah
  • #46,395
  • Edited 5:43pm Apr 16, 2013 5:30pm | Edited 5:43pm
Keep asking my live trades ? I already posted them, POST 46256, but cant post them always because I'm mobile most of the time. Long euraud, long eurnzd both up around 200 pips and closed allready ! Now I wonder if anybody followed your usdcad and usdchf longs when they were being shorted and someone blown his account or what Someone with poor money management could have easily blown his account with that kind of trading.Emmanuel has a point in his criticisims.

No offence and wish you placed 1h 34 and dragon on your 15 m posts, it could be very informative for sonicers and for this thread , since you are the one who post a lot

Okan

Quoting traderathome
Traders Should Ignore "Luck" Don't wish me luck, okanemici. I don't need it. I have an improved style of trading the Sonic R. System that I shall call the Sonic TAH trade. Tell you what, you post your trades live like I do. We will see who gets the better results. -tah
Quoting okanemici
Hi Professor TAH, I am not here to criticise you or trying to show your false trades, I like you and you are successfull, but you are a pro here and everyone is not like you.I just wanted to show some new starters a way to minimize false trades, because I have seen it done that, it is very sad to be in a losing trade.You make scouts averaging and you are OK, but if someone with a poor money management try to do the same he might blow his account.My intention is to use this beautiful system with less mistakes.You don't have to feel yourself in competition...
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  • #46,396
  • Edited 7:44pm Apr 16, 2013 5:42pm | Edited 7:44pm
Quoting okanemici
Keep asking my live trades ? I already posted them, POST 46256, but cant post them always because I'm mobile most of the time. Long euraud, long eurnzd both up around 200 pips and closed allready ! Now I wonder if anybody followed your usdcad and usdchf longs when they were being shorted and someone blown his account or what Someone with poor money management could have easily blown his account with that kind of trading.Emmanuel has a point in his criticisims. No offence Okan {image} {image}
We Ain't Professionals With Unlimited & Replenishable Funds, So Don't Blow Your Accounts!

No offence taken, okanemici.

I have a very unique way of tradng like the professionals trade. The important single difference, the one that makes all the difference in the world, is that the professionals can get more money to trade with once they have already locked a lot up in a trade that has not yet panned out for them. We cannot do that. We can only trade very, very, very light relative to account size so as to not ever even get close to a margin call when things stack up waiting to pan out. Especially if we want to be able to meanwhile go right on trading. Yes, anyone who has not thought this out extremely well, and set things up extremely conservatively, can easily end up blowing their account. But, that is their fault if it happens because I have hammered on trading very light relative to account size everytime when asked over the years. I won't detail it more than that because I have also always said that I do not recommend this style of trading to anyone and I do not want to promote it. Not yet, anyway.

The way I analyze a trade opportunity now is different and more effective than how I was doing it even five weeks ago, when the UCad trade started. And by the time I finally close out the last of such old trades the method of analysis will likely be improved to peak performance. It should cause a shift back to fewer and better placed Scouts, to the elimination of adding to temporarily failed trades, and to a higher percentage of Classics that turn good. This could significantly reduce the draw down risks and enable larger size trades.

I intend to hone this to the point it cannot be honed any better. At that time, if it is still not good enough (because I too grow weary of having some trades stack up, and for a long time) then I might just end trading Scouts, end adding to temporarily failed trades, and trade only the standard Classic trade which, at the very least by that time should be able to be better analyzed for ones that will run true, wherein larger trades can be made without the longer wait time for profits.

In conclusion, while I have taken a lot of flack over the years for my style of trading, I now see that maybe it was all intended, so as to eventually come to a result that will benefit all Sonicers. I was the first one to come to the Sonic R. System as a user of volume. And soon afterwards Sonic did away with all other indicators except the Dragon, Trend and volume. As I look at it now, that was probably a sign. For a long time following I did not know where I was going except to improve as a Sonicer. It has been difficult because I seemed destined to gravitate and stay stuck in a somewhat different style and suffer the jeers and flack thrown at me by others. Yet, that might have been exactly what was necessary in order for me to continue to question, and to experiment, and to persist. Now, I have glimpsed how this might conclude. As I posted earlier, by corrected count: 1289 pips gained two weeks ago, 1891 pips gained last week, and 1040 pips gained so far this week. So, I shall stay the course to the end.

-tah
  • #46,397
  • Apr 16, 2013 7:03pm Apr 16, 2013 7:03pm
Quoting emmanuel7788
EJ trade 16 April: M15: 34EMA Dragon above 89EMA Thrend I trade the last H1 Inside bar breakout with entry on M15. Chart attached below: {image}
http://www.forexfactory.com/attachme...1&d=1366115536

Well, as we can see this EJ trade went nowhere throughout the entire US session.
Had to close this trade with very small profit +6pips.
Stress free trading, did not suffer any huge drawdown with my 1% capital risk.

I was just watching Sydney exchange open and as usual, the first 2 hours is rather quiet low volume and narrow ranged, so I have to wait for Tokyo to open in few minutes.

More hot news today and slowly the market will respond to the recent events.

Meantime, take some time and read the discipline in trading attached. I follow Rule#16 for this EJ trade.


Trade folks.
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  • #46,398
  • Apr 16, 2013 7:18pm Apr 16, 2013 7:18pm
Quoting hansma
Patience is the key - know the nuggets and bolts for your entries or at least confirmation of s+r levels. They are as I have posted before 7 pips for eur/usd and 13 pips for gpb/usd Feel free to discuss what mmīs do and why - but the numbers donīt lie. Have fun sonickers. H.. {image} {image}

Hi hansma,

Yes, fully agree with you that PATIENCE is one of the many keys to successful trading.
Trading is very much a skill based type of activity and I must admit that I had been quietly following everyone one of your posts here in this thread. I learned a lot from your post charts. Thank you.

I recall you wanted to see the lower timeframe volume when in your chart TF M15 as an example.

Well, the FF member FerruFx has just released a full packaged of many common indicators in the Platform Tech forum.
Here is the link and one chart example below showing the MTF volume.
http://www.forexfactory.com/showthread.php?t=418662

Enjoy.

Kind Regards,
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  • #46,399
  • Edited 7:46pm Apr 16, 2013 7:29pm | Edited 7:46pm
GU Potential H&S

Sonicers, the operative word is "Potential". PA must return to and break the neckline for this to become in play. As the MMs still analyze out as bears, this senario is more than just whimsical. RWL is a viable target if the rest falls into place, especially if the "rest" involves a move down towards RDL and then a swing back up before coming back down to the neckline and breaking down thru it. If that happens, the measurement to the Target Line starts further along the neckline, a bit higher than shown, which works out possibly directly hitting RWL.

-tah
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  • #46,400
  • Apr 16, 2013 7:41pm Apr 16, 2013 7:41pm
Quoting hutrader
Carefull with shorting GU. {image}
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Hi hutrader,

Good heads-up on GU.
I will take caution after last week's consolidation. Very narrow range of 172pips, well below the 230 and 250 range.
Cable recovered after breaking the 2102 low and now has to fight for the critical level 1.5400 for buyers to take control of.
Today and tomorrow are high impact news release out of the UK.
Let Price Action show the way.

Trade Well.
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