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  • #11,781
  • Apr 16, 2013 3:47am Apr 16, 2013 3:47am
Quoting realjumper
That looks interesting Kelly...here's the EU Daily....... {image}
... very interesting RJ... just waiting for the right stochs +genesis ... I'm gonna be all over that one lol...
.... laughing all the way to the bank
  • #11,782
  • Apr 16, 2013 3:52am Apr 16, 2013 3:52am
Quoting itsallover
... very interesting RJ... just waiting for the right stochs +genesis ... I'm gonna be all over that one lol...
It could still go either way, but it's well worth watching...imo
Doing what you like is Freedom. Liking what you do is Happiness.
  • #11,783
  • Apr 16, 2013 3:55am Apr 16, 2013 3:55am
German ZEW Economic Sentiment in 5 minutes......
Doing what you like is Freedom. Liking what you do is Happiness.
  • #11,784
  • Apr 16, 2013 5:08am Apr 16, 2013 5:08am
Being trading in ranging day as yesterday and today is mattering. Hours waiting for something happen.
I noticed that working in TF15 in those days are much more secure and clear results and expect for setup confirmation for EP.

I mean, only working over 15mTF without pay attention to other TF.

What do you think?
  • #11,785
  • Apr 16, 2013 5:17am Apr 16, 2013 5:17am
Quoting Veracruz
Being trading in ranging day as yesterday and today is mattering. Hours waiting for something happen. I noticed that working in TF15 in those days are much more secure and clear results and expect for setup confirmation for EP. What do you think?

I like the 15 Min Timeframe ....and especially the 15 Min arrow.
.... laughing all the way to the bank
  • #11,786
  • Apr 16, 2013 5:30am Apr 16, 2013 5:30am
Quoting itsallover
I like the 15 Min Timeframe .... especially the 15 Min arrow.
I've been checking and testing the 10 main pairs, gold, silver, oil and others, specially during ranging days. The most clear indicator appears on TF15M.
And some good trends look to come from Asian Market about 5:00AM (aprox) European Summer Time.
It must be that great investors are moving somer market from Asia?
  • #11,787
  • Apr 16, 2013 5:40am Apr 16, 2013 5:40am
Quoting Veracruz
Being trading in ranging day as yesterday and today is mattering. Hours waiting for something happen. I noticed that working in TF15 in those days are much more secure and clear results and expect for setup confirmation for EP. I mean, only working over 15mTF without pay attention to other TF. What do you think?
I like to keep an eye on plain H1, H4 and D1 charts. It gives me a better sense of direction.
mind over matter
  • #11,788
  • Apr 16, 2013 5:46am Apr 16, 2013 5:46am
Long EU, +15 and SL@BE.
mind over matter
  • #11,789
  • Apr 16, 2013 5:48am Apr 16, 2013 5:48am
Quoting kosmo
Long EU, +15 and SL@BE.

...nice one...
.... laughing all the way to the bank
  • #11,790
  • Apr 16, 2013 5:50am Apr 16, 2013 5:50am
Quoting Veracruz
I've been checking and testing the 10 main pairs, gold, silver, oil and others, specially during ranging days. The most clear indicator appears on TF15M. And some good trends look to come from Asian Market about 5:00AM (aprox) European Summer Time. It must be that great investors are moving somer market from Asia?
You're right... recently some decent moves have originated from the Tokyo Session..... I tried to stay awake late last night... don't think I'll do it again lol
.... laughing all the way to the bank
  • #11,791
  • Apr 16, 2013 5:55am Apr 16, 2013 5:55am
Quoting itsallover
I like the 15 Min Timeframe ....and especially the 15 Min arrow.
You work only TF15M. But do you use other higher or lower TF to check the trade?
I suppose that lower for planning the Exit of the market. It's right?
  • #11,792
  • Apr 16, 2013 5:58am Apr 16, 2013 5:58am
Quoting Veracruz
You work only TF15M. But do you use other higher or lower TF to check the trade? I suppose that lower for planning the Exit of the market. It's right?
When I'm being good... which is rare....I check the 1Hr, 4Hr and Daily chart just to see where PA is going and not try not to trade against the trend on the immediate higher timeframe.

So I like trading the 15 Min chart- I try not to go against the 1Hr stochastic and trend.
.... laughing all the way to the bank
  • #11,793
  • Apr 16, 2013 5:59am Apr 16, 2013 5:59am
Quoting Veracruz
You work only TF15M. But do you use other higher or lower TF to check the trade? I suppose that lower for planning the Exit of the market. It's right?
In such case we should start to move our trading session from Tokio to London opening only.
  • #11,794
  • Apr 16, 2013 6:04am Apr 16, 2013 6:04am
Quoting Veracruz
In such case we should start to move our trading session from Tokio to London opening only.
Well our trading starts during Frankie ..... though most people tend to wait for London Open because sometimes the moves created during Frankie gets reversed during London Open.
.... laughing all the way to the bank
  • #11,795
  • Apr 16, 2013 6:09am Apr 16, 2013 6:09am
Quoting itsallover
When I'm being good... which is rare....I check the 1Hr, 4Hr and Daily chart just to see where PA is going and not try not to trade against the trend on the immediate higher timeframe. So I like trading the 15 Min chart- I try not to go against the 1Hr stochastic and trend.
Then a option will be to implement stoc Periode 1h or 4h on TF15M. How do you see it?
  • #11,796
  • Apr 16, 2013 6:10am Apr 16, 2013 6:10am
Quoting itsallover
...nice one...
Closed for +11. PA stalled and I need coffee! And, of course, it's going up again

How's NZDUSD doing?
mind over matter
  • #11,797
  • Apr 16, 2013 6:12am Apr 16, 2013 6:12am
Quoting kosmo
Closed for +11. PA stalled and I need coffee! And, of course, it's going up again How's NZDUSD doing?
... always the way ... lol... you're +pips which is what matters
.... laughing all the way to the bank
  • #11,798
  • Apr 16, 2013 6:19am Apr 16, 2013 6:19am
Quoting Veracruz
You work only TF15M. But do you use other higher or lower TF to check the trade? I suppose that lower for planning the Exit of the market. It's right?
Its not really any TF is the definitive way to trade, there are many different interpretations.

Generally you select a HTF in which you determine a trend (lets call it your "trend" TF) - you may then select the next HTF to ensure if it is a strong trend, you dont trade against it, but if that trend isnt strong, be happy with your "trend" TF.

Then you take the next lower TF, in which to time your entries (lets call it your "timing" TF).

So Genesis strategy suggests M15 as your "trend" TF, and M5 as your "timing" TF.

So checking H1, as your next higher "trend" TF, is a good idea.

As you will regularly see fake-outs on M15, ie sharp pullbacks against a strong H1 trend. So checking H1 will keep you on the right side.

By not checking multiple TFs (unless you trade H1 or higher) will lead getting chopped up regularly.

Then the issue is which TF to trade ?????

That is the tough one. That comes down to personal preference;time to you have to sit in front of the screen; and the amount of trading capital.

Hope this helps
I am a fallible imperfect person; so I must be a fallible imperfect trader.
  • #11,799
  • Apr 16, 2013 6:23am Apr 16, 2013 6:23am
Quoting itsallover
When I'm being good... which is rare....I check the 1Hr, 4Hr and Daily chart just to see where PA is going and not try not to trade against the trend on the immediate higher timeframe. So I like trading the 15 Min chart- I try not to go against the 1Hr stochastic and trend.
I have changed the MTF Stoc on TF15m second window with this of 1H.
Do you think that it's necessary any additional setup over configuration regarding K, D and slowing?
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  • #11,800
  • Apr 16, 2013 6:25am Apr 16, 2013 6:25am
Quoting Martyfish
Its not really any TF is the definitive way to trade, there are many different interpretations. Generally you select a HTF in which you determine a trend (lets call it your "trend" TF) - you may then select the next HTF to ensure if it is a strong trend, you dont trade against it, but if that trend isnt strong, be happy with your "trend" TF. Then you take the next lower TF, in which to time your entries (lets call it your "timing" TF). So Genesis strategy suggests M15 as your "trend" TF, and M5 as your "timing" TF. So checking H1, as your...


Very good points Marty.
.... laughing all the way to the bank
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