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  • #787,801
  • Apr 15, 2013 3:25pm Apr 15, 2013 3:25pm
i think its incredible
last week everything was all inflated
now, AUDUSD is down 225pips from high and it keeps falling as i write....

total non sense
  • #787,802
  • Apr 15, 2013 3:26pm Apr 15, 2013 3:26pm
the stop hunt you're looking at right now is a crime in progress. i hope the police and the FBI starting checking around brokerages.
  • #787,803
  • Apr 15, 2013 3:27pm Apr 15, 2013 3:27pm
Quoting divak
i think its incredible last week everything was all inflated now, AUDUSD is down 225pips from high and it keeps falling as i write.... total non sense
Well I see it this way, all the assets that refused to fall are the ones hit the hardest. Maybe everything that glitters isn't gold. Poor economic data, S&P futures down almost 40 points. Maybe the markets are touching a bit of reality.
When the facts change I change my mind, what do you do sir
  • #787,804
  • Apr 15, 2013 3:29pm Apr 15, 2013 3:29pm
Quoting Pip Anon
Well I see it this way, all the assets that refused to fall are the ones hit the hardest. Maybe everything that glitters isn't gold. Poor economic data, S&P futures down almost 40 points. Maybe the markets are touching a bit of reality.
and maybe they're being manipulated.
  • #787,805
  • Apr 15, 2013 3:32pm Apr 15, 2013 3:32pm
Quoting Pip Anon
Well I see it this way, all the assets that refused to fall are the ones hit the hardest. Maybe everything that glitters isn't gold. Poor economic data, S&P futures down almost 40 points. Maybe the markets are touching a bit of reality.
as i see it, many pairs were at a point where pa suggested a fade might work... well, something happened in a time frame of minutes, and what da ya know! fried faders!
  • #787,806
  • Apr 15, 2013 3:33pm Apr 15, 2013 3:33pm
Quoting 1candlepower
the stop hunt you're looking at right now is a crime in progress. i hope the police and the FBI starting checking around brokerages.
a little naive

the move is real money over a significant distance and therefore way bigger than a stop hunt
  • #787,807
  • Apr 15, 2013 3:34pm Apr 15, 2013 3:34pm
Quoting 1candlepower
the stop hunt you're looking at right now is a crime in progress. i hope the police and the FBI starting checking around brokerages.
This smells like a major liquidation of a hedge fund(s), definitely not some non-existent stop hunt. market dynamics in its purest form; the panic move towards the exits...
  • #787,808
  • Apr 15, 2013 3:34pm Apr 15, 2013 3:34pm
Quoting 1candlepower
and maybe they're being manipulated.
I guess it, too, is perception. Do I think it happens? Sure. Is it the real reason for every sellof? Hell no. Can people sell because they simply do not seem the same value? Gold has been up for 11 straight years. Yen pairs have been up 1,000-1,2000 pips with no meaningful correction.

Markets up on the hope of recovering economies. Shit ain't recovering like they thought; S&P up 30% on hopes and dreams. Time to trim off the top. That's how it works.
When the facts change I change my mind, what do you do sir
  • #787,809
  • Apr 15, 2013 3:35pm Apr 15, 2013 3:35pm
Quoting 1candlepower
as i see it, many pairs were at a point where pa suggested a fade might work... well, something happened in a time frame of minutes, and what da ya know! fried faders!
Fading can be dicey. Tight SL always, more so against momentum.
When the facts change I change my mind, what do you do sir
  • #787,810
  • Apr 15, 2013 3:35pm Apr 15, 2013 3:35pm
I still belive very firmly there wont be 1,29, euro is going higher.
"You're solid gold, see you in hell"
  • #787,811
  • Apr 15, 2013 3:35pm Apr 15, 2013 3:35pm
Quoting gammase1
This smells like a major liquidation of a hedge fund(s), definitely not some non-existent stop hunt. market dynamics in its purest form; the panic move towards the exits...
When the facts change I change my mind, what do you do sir
  • #787,812
  • Apr 15, 2013 3:36pm Apr 15, 2013 3:36pm
is anyone still entering shorts for a much lower test with a tight sl?
  • #787,813
  • Apr 15, 2013 3:36pm Apr 15, 2013 3:36pm
Quoting MaxDoom
a little naive the move is real money over a significant distance and therefore way bigger than a stop hunt
well said... to think this is some sort of hunt on the stops of retail traders is absurd
  • #787,814
  • Apr 15, 2013 3:37pm Apr 15, 2013 3:37pm
nutz.. talk...
those who can, do. those who cant, talk about those who can
  • #787,815
  • Apr 15, 2013 3:39pm Apr 15, 2013 3:39pm
Quoting MaxDoom
a little naive the move is real money over a significant distance and therefore way bigger than a stop hunt
the first part is easy to understand. i see no conspiracy there. i'm talking about what happened AFTER 1430 est. the timing is just way way too much of a coincidence.... no terrorist acts of any real visibility for months in this country... and then within a key time frame of minutes!!!!!!!!!!!!

i don't buy the idea that there's no connection.
  • #787,816
  • Apr 15, 2013 3:40pm Apr 15, 2013 3:40pm
Quoting SugarPink
I still belive very firmly there wont be 1,29, euro is going higher.
what we believe has little to do with making money
those who can, do. those who cant, talk about those who can
  • #787,817
  • Apr 15, 2013 3:40pm Apr 15, 2013 3:40pm
My Long @ 68 exited this morning +13

Existing Short @ 57 I took this morning is now +29

Looking to bail on this short if the RSI3 (10M) goes +50 or PA goes above 5 SMA (10M)

See why I dont use SL and instead exercise patience while trading smaller than rational...

The MM pyramid always pays if you play it right
Trade smaller than rational because the market is irrational...
  • #787,818
  • Apr 15, 2013 3:40pm Apr 15, 2013 3:40pm
Quoting Pip Anon
I guess it, too, is perception. Do I think it happens? Sure. Is it the real reason for every sellof? Hell no. Can people sell because they simply do not seem the same value? Gold has been up for 11 straight years. Yen pairs have been up 1,000-1,2000 pips with no meaningful correction. Markets up on the hope of recovering economies. Shit ain't recovering like they thought; S&P up 30% on hopes and dreams. Time to trim off the top. That's how it works.
my point is the accuracy of the timing. just too much to be coincidence.
  • #787,819
  • Apr 15, 2013 3:41pm Apr 15, 2013 3:41pm
Quoting gammase1
well said... to think this is some sort of hunt on the stops of retail traders is absurd
An excuse to justified losses. This selloff was a perfect opportunity to make money.
When the facts change I change my mind, what do you do sir
  • #787,820
  • Apr 15, 2013 3:42pm Apr 15, 2013 3:42pm
Quoting gatorinla
nutz.. talk...
I'm off before the crazies take over

later
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