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  • #785,361
  • Apr 9, 2013 1:05pm Apr 9, 2013 1:05pm
Quoting 21vs7
had to do calculations for HUFTRY and PLNCZK to figure this shjiit out for the indexes. Vs NOK SEK and RUB. all fooking glorious combinations

aaaand...usddkk 100k ag eurusd 100k is 180ish vs 100 pippers

...aaaand...usddkk 100k ag eurusd 100k is 180ish vs 100 pippers..you need 180 pippers move on usddkk to be 100 eurusd pippers in plus..


aaand 500k usd is not 500k eurozz

edit: its 140/150 pippers for 100 on eu
  • #785,362
  • Edited 1:33pm Apr 9, 2013 1:08pm | Edited 1:33pm
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  • #785,363
  • Apr 9, 2013 1:08pm Apr 9, 2013 1:08pm
Quoting hadox
100 pips in EUR/USD is the same as 570 pips in USD/DKK ..
one important diff in a pair like .ud is that many brokers will only allow 20:1 leverage or less because seen as "exotic" pair
  • #785,364
  • Apr 9, 2013 1:11pm Apr 9, 2013 1:11pm
Quoting Fx3423454
Yes, that part is understood. However, let me put it to you this way. 500,000 EUR/USD Margin Requirement = $15,000 500,000 USD/DKK Margin Requirement = $10,000 Do the math, I already did. If you are a consistently profitable trader you can make more trading USD/DKK. Assuming that your broker allows this and the margin requirements are as I mentioned above with your broker. Also assuming spreads are as low as they are with my broker (FXCM). Spread currently is 7.8 for USD/DKK. Margin requirements are $2,000 for every 100,000 units.
You are leaving the most important which is "Account Leverage". I know how to do the calculation and all, just trying to understand your thinking other than the quote currency is USD or DKK. What is the value per pip for USD/DKK in USD or your base currency? Don't take me wrong I am trying to undertand something out of this that I am not aware of.
  • #785,365
  • Apr 9, 2013 1:11pm Apr 9, 2013 1:11pm
Quoting 21vs7
had to do calculations for HUFTRY and PLNCZK to figure this shjiit out for the indexes. Vs NOK SEK and RUB. all fooking glorious combinations aaaand...usddkk 100k ag eurusd 100k is 180ish vs 100 pippers
Yes, they are...

However, NOK and SEK are not identically correlated the way that EUR/USD and USD/DKK are.

Also, the spreads are a lot higher with USD/NOK and SEK/NOK and as far as USD/RUB is concerned the margin requirements are huge and also spreads are high as well last time I checked.

This is why I chose USD/DKK.

For some reason all of the Eastern European currencies paired with the USD have extremely high spreads and margin requirements.

Margin requirement for 100,000 units of USD/RUB is $5,000 and the spread is 48 pips.

USD/NOK and USD/SEK are not bad options but the spreads are higher and they are not correlated identically the way EUR/USD and USD/DKK are.
Trade at your own risk.
  • #785,366
  • Apr 9, 2013 1:13pm Apr 9, 2013 1:13pm
Quoting 21vs7
had to do calculations for HUFTRY and PLNCZK to figure this shjiit out for the indexes. Vs NOK SEK and RUB. all fooking glorious combinations
While you´r talking about my beloved national currency. No need to watch Czech fundamentals at all. Apart from CB, who still has some place to lower IR. CZK is heavily correlated to EUR. I hate it, but thats just the way it is. Like 20% of our export goes to Germany. So when EUR falls, CZK falls. Didnt measure it, but think there is really heavy inverse correlation to USD/EUR.

At first, when crisis started, I thought CZK will be safe haven and will appreciate. Yet, it went down as Euro went down. It is because there is low liquidity in CZK market, so foreign investors start to short our currency in anticipation of crisis. They fear, that if EU fails, they wont be able to sell CZK at all. So in effect CZK can be kinda used as benchmark to what investors think of EUR.

T
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  • #785,367
  • Apr 9, 2013 1:15pm Apr 9, 2013 1:15pm
1st level 15 may..(1.3107)
2nd level 8 may(1.3134)..
3rd level 28 feb..(1.3161)

10pips under those 3 level.. taking short position.. 1st and 2nd level we might hit until this end of the week .. 3rd...are not in my view right now..
green pips for all.
  • #785,368
  • Apr 9, 2013 1:18pm Apr 9, 2013 1:18pm
while we're stuck in traffic... have a QUESTION:

does anyone here know what the risk picture surrounding money in a regular bank savings or chking account (insured "" or not)
versus
money in an fx brokerage account?
  • #785,369
  • Apr 9, 2013 1:20pm Apr 9, 2013 1:20pm
Quoting Ken A
Congrats. Glad to know someone is also taking advantage of the move since we last talked in January 2013
Hey ken, long time no see - i hope you are doing some good pips and trading safe ... Fortunately i got really buried under work and was kind of trading the weekly candle ! i think 139 no on the EURJPY is the most logical place for a rest and test of faith ! The Daily, Weekly chart are kind of over bought and not really any resistance is left but in the old range 140 - 130 ... So, i think its a good target , but we will see how it goes !

I'm seeing people are kind of struggling with the cripple. EURUSD is such a disappointment , with all these movement going around it - it just moved hesitately a couple of hundred pips !
"It's the Margin, Stupid."
  • #785,370
  • Apr 9, 2013 1:20pm Apr 9, 2013 1:20pm
Quoting Tom_D_Trader
While you´r talking about my beloved national currency. No need to watch Czech fundamentals at all. Apart from CB, who still has some place to lower IR. CZK is heavily correlated to EUR. I hate it, but thats just the way it is. Like 20% of our export goes to Germany. So when EUR falls, CZK falls. Didnt measure it, but think there is really heavy inverse correlation to USD/EUR. At first, when crisis started, I thought CZK will be safe haven and will appreciate. Yet, it went down as Euro went down. It is because there is low liquidity in...
The margin requirements are also ridiculous as with all Eastern European currencies I have paired with the USD.

USD/RUB
USD/HUF
USD/CZK

A standard lot (100,000) units requires $5,000 at least with my broker.
Also the spreads are not as low.

I have already analyzed all of these pairs and in the end USD/DKK is the winner.
Trade at your own risk.
  • #785,371
  • Apr 9, 2013 1:21pm Apr 9, 2013 1:21pm
Quoting Fx3423454
Yes, they are... However, NOK and SEK are not identically correlated the way that EUR/USD and USD/DKK are. Also, the spreads are a lot higher with USD/NOK and SEK/NOK and as far as USD/RUB is concerned the margin requirements are huge and also spreads are high as well last time I checked. This is why I chose USD/DKK. For some reason all of the Eastern European currencies paired with the USD have extremely high spreads and margin requirements.

carry currencies...liquidity and different ratios I would guess. Lots of smelly shjit with brokers on them currencies.

and its not 570 in pips worth

look at the eurpln td. brokers spiked the shjit out of it..at least i managed to get out while they did it. On the cash market there were no 15 in sight..
  • #785,372
  • Apr 9, 2013 1:27pm Apr 9, 2013 1:27pm
Quoting Tom_D_Trader
While you´r talking about my beloved national currency. No need to watch Czech fundamentals at all. Apart from CB, who still has some place to lower IR. CZK is heavily correlated to EUR. I hate it, but thats just the way it is. Like 20% of our export goes to Germany. So when EUR falls, CZK falls. Didnt measure it, but think there is really heavy inverse correlation to USD/EUR. At first, when crisis started, I thought CZK will be safe haven and will appreciate. Yet, it went down as Euro went down. It is because there is low liquidity in...
yes, tried to sell the cross few days back 25,75ish..got bored..managed to get out aroundish. I guess they capped it. You into EUR someday maybe? ERM? I guess they are putting the floor for EUR recognition in a decade or so. Was similar with SKK, and they decided to enter.
  • #785,373
  • Apr 9, 2013 1:29pm Apr 9, 2013 1:29pm
Quoting 21vs7
... look at the eurpln td. brokers spiked the shjit out of it..
Can imagine. Beware low liquidity markets.
"I know one thing, that I know nothing." Sokrates
  • #785,374
  • Apr 9, 2013 1:30pm Apr 9, 2013 1:30pm
Quoting Vachus
Hey ken, long time no see - i hope you are doing some good pips and trading safe ... Fortunately i got really buried under work and was kind of trading the weekly candle ! i think 139 no on the EURJPY is the most logical place for a rest and test of faith ! The Daily, Weekly chart are kind of over bought and not really any resistance is left but in the old range 140 - 130 ... So, i think its a good target , but we will see how it goes ! I'm seeing people are kind of struggling with the cripple. EURUSD is such a disappointment , with all these movement...
I am fine thanks. Yes, did stupid mistake for my E/J from 100.xx was stopped out by trailling stop at around 124.xx otherwise it would be +3,000 or +4,000 if 140.00 even possible to beat my own record.

But I have rebuilt from last lows 119.2x and adding few on the way. Don't intent to add too many because too difficult to manage as last time over +70 positions for E/J alone. If your average was 122.00 then you have nothing to worry, just need time and 130.00 is not a pipe dream so as 100 for U/J.

Patience patience and relax let PA takes us there.
  • #785,375
  • Apr 9, 2013 1:33pm Apr 9, 2013 1:33pm
evening peeps,

been driving all afternoon, I see that I didn't miss much
  • #785,376
  • Apr 9, 2013 1:36pm Apr 9, 2013 1:36pm
Quoting Fx3423454
No my friend 100 pips of EUR/USD is the same as 1,000 pips in USD/DKK.

naah its 450 I see, my bad
  • #785,377
  • Apr 9, 2013 1:37pm Apr 9, 2013 1:37pm
naaaah dont need this shjiit!!

  • #785,378
  • Apr 9, 2013 1:40pm Apr 9, 2013 1:40pm
Quoting 21vs7
yes, tried to sell the cross few days back 25,75ish..got bored..managed to get out aroundish. I guess they capped it. You into EUR someday maybe? ERM? I guess they are putting the floor for EUR recognition in a decade or so. Was similar with SKK, and they decided to enter.
Well yeah, dont tell me about it. Idiots are still trying to meet Maastricht, so we are able to enter, when we want. We are not in ERM II, but following ERM I. Dunno if we signed ERM I as mandatory, but we meet it anyway. I hate this topic. I dont want to have EUR, because I dont want to end up like PIIGS. But imo further consolidation of Europe is inevitable and we will soon all be using EUR and be ruled from Berlin. But still have like a decade of time, so lets have some fun. If they ever move ministry of finance to Brussels or Berlin, I am going to become guerrila warrior and you shall see fires I light.

I know I´ve sidetracked a bit, but I see consolidation of fiscal spending in EMU as inevitable. So I really hope we wont get EUR here.
"I know one thing, that I know nothing." Sokrates
  • #785,379
  • Apr 9, 2013 1:43pm Apr 9, 2013 1:43pm
Quoting 1candlepower
while we're stuck in traffic... have a QUESTION: does anyone here know what the risk picture surrounding money in a regular bank savings or chking account (insured "" or not) versus money in an fx brokerage account?
Forex money at a broker is not money to rely on but instrument to make money by the minority and to lose money by the majority/95%/
  • #785,380
  • Apr 9, 2013 1:44pm Apr 9, 2013 1:44pm
Quoting Fx3423454
It's not 450. 150 pips in EUR/USD is 1,500 in USD/DKK. Since 2013.04.04 EUR/USD has gone up 154 pips and USD/DKK has gone down 1,540 pips.

1 then u need eurdkk also rite
2 if you talk mouney....you need 100k EUR on EURUSD and 130k USDDKK and then u will see to calculate that that is around 450 piippers on usddkk ag eurusd
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