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  • #781,381
  • Apr 2, 2013 9:44pm Apr 2, 2013 9:44pm
Quoting ec_creep
yep, thinking this move might be a setup for that. though he may well be extremely careful with his words. i don't think it will move so much. personally, i have been looking forward to france data.
Great observation on France. BTW there was a reason Gold sold off. Maybe the insiders know the Greenback will rally.

I dont know. I dont try to figure out where the market is going in the future I react to what it does now.
Trade smaller than rational because the market is irrational...
  • #781,382
  • Apr 2, 2013 9:45pm Apr 2, 2013 9:45pm
Quoting gatorinla
what time does it start?
1775 and counting.
Time turns trend. - W.D. Gann
  • #781,383
  • Apr 2, 2013 9:49pm Apr 2, 2013 9:49pm
Fundamentals have only marginal impact on our daily business..

Its only back and forth, back and forth..

And trying to catch a piece of the cake..
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  • #781,384
  • Apr 2, 2013 9:50pm Apr 2, 2013 9:50pm
Quoting EuroTraderJD
At least you are not getting Fukashemaed (hell that Japanese nuke plant)
Yes, there are definite benefits to having a small population over a wide area, altho there are plenty of Military families and others still feeling the effects of "completely safe" atomic testing done at Woomera years ago....absolutely nothing on what the Japanese and Chechnyans have suffered though of course.

However there are serious Govt-caused issues developing here altho I won't go in to it too much because I will inevitably be labelled a racist, which I am not. On balance though, even with the stupid RedHead bringing shame to women's "glass ceiling" cause, there isn't anywhere else I can think of that I would want to bring my children up, although retreating to the wilderness at some point does have its appeal
  • #781,385
  • Apr 2, 2013 9:51pm Apr 2, 2013 9:51pm
Quoting ForExtraPips
1775 and counting.
should i break out the 100k rounds of old Chekhovian (ussr) 7.62 ammo? this old shit is wrapped in paper..
those who can, do. those who cant, talk about those who can
  • #781,386
  • Apr 2, 2013 9:53pm Apr 2, 2013 9:53pm
Quoting gatorinla
should i break out the 100k rounds of old Chekhovian (ussr) 7.62 ammo? this old shit is wrapped in paper..
Nah, sell it on ebay.
Time turns trend. - W.D. Gann
  • #781,387
  • Apr 2, 2013 9:55pm Apr 2, 2013 9:55pm
Quoting Toranaga
Fundamentals have only marginal impact on our daily business..
Brother with all due respect I would have to disagree.

IMO Fundos make the longer term charts and techs fill them in.

Case in point the Euro. Down and down because comparatively things suck donkey dong and here in the US things APPEAR (cough cough) better.

I made an analogy that FA is like the Jet Stream and TA are like the gales and breezes below. The closer to the ground (smaller TF) the more erratic the winds blow.

If Fundos have little effect then when Super Mario or Big Ben speaks then the moves would be techical in nature. Their words and deeds move markets.

I am no Economist with a PHD but I am a thinker...
Trade smaller than rational because the market is irrational...
  • #781,388
  • Apr 2, 2013 9:58pm Apr 2, 2013 9:58pm
Quoting ForExtraPips
Nah, sell it on ebay.
this shit was cheap in the mid 90ties. maybe less then a penny a bullet.. copper jacket.
those who can, do. those who cant, talk about those who can
  • #781,389
  • Apr 2, 2013 10:02pm Apr 2, 2013 10:02pm
Quoting CathS
Yes, there are definite benefits to having a small population over a wide area, altho there are plenty of Military families and others still feeling the effects of "completely safe" atomic testing done at Woomera years ago....absolutely nothing on what the Japanese and Chechnyans have suffered though of course. However there are serious Govt-caused issues developing here altho I won't go in to it too much because I will inevitably be labelled a racist, which I am not. On balance though, even with the stupid RedHead bringing shame to women's "glass...
Cath you are blessed to live where you are. Counties are nothing more than a collection of people and all have problems.

From what I can remember the last perfect one was hung on a cross so not much hope for a perfect place on Earth (well except my house...lol)

As far as being labled a racist, that is PC which is nothing more than feel good while ignoring common sense. Please I urge you to speak your mind (I do). Back in the day a man (or woman) who spoke up was respected as long as it was based in truth.
Trade smaller than rational because the market is irrational...
  • #781,390
  • Apr 2, 2013 10:04pm Apr 2, 2013 10:04pm
Quoting gatorinla
this shit was cheap in the mid 90ties. maybe less then a penny a bullet.. copper jacket.
Wow. When I look back at the mid 90's, and the stuff that I could have bought then, but didn't, and what they're worth today, just gets under my skin sometimes. I first got exposed to forex in 99 but blew it off. Live and learn, I guess.
Time turns trend. - W.D. Gann
  • #781,391
  • Apr 2, 2013 10:07pm Apr 2, 2013 10:07pm
Quoting EuroTraderJD
Great observation on France. BTW there was a reason Gold sold off. Maybe the insiders know the Greenback will rally. I dont know. I dont try to figure out where the market is going in the future I react to what it does now.
neither am i...

i like that thinking, here's a token of my appreciation
  • #781,392
  • Apr 2, 2013 10:07pm Apr 2, 2013 10:07pm
Quoting EuroTraderJD
Brother with all due respect I would have to disagree. IMO Fundos make the longer term charts and techs fill them in. Case in point the Euro. Down and down because comparatively things suck donkey dong and here in the US things APPEAR (cough cough) better. I made an analogy that FA is like the Jet Stream and TA are like the gales and breezes below. The closer to the ground (smaller TF) the more erratic the winds blow. If Fundos have little effect then when Super Mario or Big Ben speaks then the moves would be techical in nature. Their words and...
he he, thanks for the reply. That was more than i expected.

Yeah, maybe youre right and maybe not, out views are different
Im the one who thinks 'we are doomed as mankind, no startrek future' for us..

and im also one of them who thinks, The Charts make the news and not the opposite..

Fundamentals are great, but..

I dont know have to say it again. Imo the charts make the news,
after i noticed that, i dont believe to anything that is more than 2 days away..

Have to say, i moved from scalping to H4 D1



Edit. Btw. Have a look at $/Y W1. No fundamentals, no news, could change that..

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  • #781,393
  • Apr 2, 2013 10:09pm Apr 2, 2013 10:09pm
Quoting ec_creep
neither am i... i like that thinking, here's a token of my appreciation
Thanks brother I will cash it in and add it to my FX account
Trade smaller than rational because the market is irrational...
  • #781,394
  • Apr 2, 2013 10:12pm Apr 2, 2013 10:12pm
Quoting EuroTraderJD
Brother with all due respect I would have to disagree. IMO Fundos make the longer term charts and techs fill them in. Case in point the Euro. Down and down because comparatively things suck donkey dong and here in the US things APPEAR (cough cough) better. I made an analogy that FA is like the Jet Stream and TA are like the gales and breezes below. The closer to the ground (smaller TF) the more erratic the winds blow. If Fundos have little effect then when Super Mario or Big Ben speaks then the moves would be techical in nature. Their words and...

Agreed. A "properly" drawn chart will tell you when and where to trade. (I know, I know, define the word "properly"). And yes, the fundies fill the techs. That's why I don't trade with feelings. "It has to drop, it just has to, because (fill in the blank)." That type of emotional trading will get you nowhere. Just like when there's a big Mario, ECB, or B.B. day, then all the EURO haters come on this thread and just start trashing everybody that's buying at certain points. That's no way to trade.
Time turns trend. - W.D. Gann
  • #781,395
  • Apr 2, 2013 10:14pm Apr 2, 2013 10:14pm
Quoting Toranaga
he he, thanks for the reply. That was more than i expected. Yeah, maybe youre right and maybe not, out views are different Im the one who thinks 'we are doomed as mankind, no startrek future' for us.. and im also one of them who thinks, The Charts make the news and not the opposite.. Fundamentals are great, but.. I dont know, have to say it again. I noticed, the charts make the news, after i noticed that, i dont believe to anything that is more than 2 days away.. Have to say, i moved from scalping to H4 D1
My FX comrade we do have some common ground. I also believe we are doomed.

But I totally disagree with charts making the news. This only happens when they move out of the norm. What would case a big move? Techs I doubt fundos such as a rate cut or a "bail in" would. Pending QE keeping markets bid or offered. Stickly looking at a chart in my opinion couldnt do that.

That being said I value and respect all view points so lets agree to disagree. May you reap many green pips.
Trade smaller than rational because the market is irrational...
  • #781,396
  • Apr 2, 2013 10:18pm Apr 2, 2013 10:18pm
Quoting ForExtraPips
Wow. When I look back at the mid 90's, and the stuff that I could have bought then, but didn't, and what they're worth today, just gets under my skin sometimes. I first got exposed to forex in 99 but blew it off. Live and learn, I guess.
I think perhaps it's actually good fortune to have blown it off at the height of the dot com bubble. Everybody and their dead grandmother was trading back then and the vast majority of them lost big when the bull market collapsed. Learning to trade when markets aren't so unidirectional and confidence is mixed teaches you to manage risk and cut losses instead of having the mentality "It's just going to keep going up".

Quoting EuroTraderJD
My FX comrade we do have some common ground. I also believe we are doomed. But I totally disagree with charts making the news. This only happens when they move out of the norm. What would case a big move? Techs I doubt fundos such as a rate cut or a "bail in" would. Pending QE keeping markets bid or offered. Stickly looking at a chart in my opinion couldnt do that. That being said I value and respect all view points so lets agree to disagree. May you reap many green pips.
Fundamentals news just drives all the idiots into the zones where they should be selling instead of buying or vice versa.
  • #781,397
  • Apr 2, 2013 10:20pm Apr 2, 2013 10:20pm
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or B.B. day, then all the EURO haters come on this thread and just start trashing everybody that's buying at certain points. That's no way to trade.
I always laugh about, i cal it "Patriotic buying"
Im from Europe, but i so so dont care what the € will do.
Equal if up or down, my only wish is, moove ! and that a lot.

I noticed, a lot of Us traders trade with wishful thinking "The $ will peak because.."
we are such a great Nation and great way to live.. Or something else..

he he


Wrong way.

Move, equal which direction. And stop the border thinking..

When you trade currencies over Internet..

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  • #781,398
  • Apr 2, 2013 10:20pm Apr 2, 2013 10:20pm
Quoting Kanzler
I think perhaps it's actually good fortune to have blown it off at the height of the dot com bubble. Everybody and their dead grandmother was trading back then and the vast majority of them lost big when the bull market collapsed. Learning to trade when markets aren't so unidirectional and confidence is mixed teaches you to manage risk and cut losses instead of having the mentality "It's just going to keep going up".

Good point. I was working for the airlines back then, and yes, a lot of my co-workers with that type of mentality lost a lot. Then 9-11 hit, and we were all in the sh*tter. Coming back into this market in the middle of 2011 was just perfect timing for me.
Time turns trend. - W.D. Gann
  • #781,399
  • Apr 2, 2013 10:22pm Apr 2, 2013 10:22pm
Quoting Toranaga
I always laugh about, i cal it "Patriotic buying" Im from Europe, but i so so dont care what the € will do. Equal if up or down, my only wish is, moove ! and that a lot. I noticed, a lot of Us traders trade with wishful thinking "The $ will peak because.." we are such a great Nation and great way to live.. he he Wrong way. Move, equal which direction. And stop the border thinking.. When you trade currencies over Internet..
Spot on.
Time turns trend. - W.D. Gann
  • #781,400
  • Apr 2, 2013 10:22pm Apr 2, 2013 10:22pm
Quoting ForExtraPips
Agreed. A "properly" drawn chart will tell you when and where to trade. (I know, I know, define the word "properly"). And yes, the fundies fill the techs. That's why I don't trade with feelings. "It has to drop, it just has to, because (fill in the blank)." That type of emotional trading will get you nowhere. Just like when there's a big Mario, ECB, or B.B. day, then all the EURO haters come on this thread and just start trashing everybody that's buying at certain points. That's no way to trade.
AGREED there should be no bashing. For every buyer there is a seller with the same type of conviction more or less.

The mind is the highest point in a man. Once you get control of it then the chances of success are improved but not assured.

As we know hope and feelings are not a bonafide trading strategy. AMEN

When I cant trade (due to MM or indo restrictions) I drill drill drill placing phantom trades. Repetition is good for dull minds and develops excellence. When things get crazy falling back on your training is 2nd nature so I agree with not trading with emotion although I fight the old man inside me with that.

Trading is a perishable skill like marksmanship or playing the piano.
Trade smaller than rational because the market is irrational...
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