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  • #45,561
  • Apr 1, 2013 9:55am Apr 1, 2013 9:55am
Quoting traderathome
Your question is ill stated. Are you asking what is the reason for price reversals (which has nothing to do with SonicR)? If so, the answer is.... ....what the hell difference does it make!!? The MMs become bulls, become bears, and sometimes are both, but relative to different TFs! Follow the friggin' action and forget thinking that the reasons for it matter. They don't! But, if you insist on a reason, then here is the universal reason for all price action,..... ....MMs are pricing for their own maximum profits (or to minimize their losses)!
No, the reason I do not need. I just want to take such movements. So I ask, how to do it. Go to a smaller timeframe?
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  • #45,562
  • Apr 1, 2013 9:56am Apr 1, 2013 9:56am
Quoting dany78
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dany78, you keep suggesting this is bearish.
http://www.forexfactory.com/showthre...36#post6562036
http://www.forexfactory.com/showthre...19#post6562819

Well, things can change, and quickly so sometimes. Right now it is not bearish.

May I suggest that you not post your charts in the manner that you do. A,B,C,Ds,.....this is not the Sonic R. Sytem. The Sonic R. System is elegantly simple, and does not require all that "stuff". If you like such "stuff", then fine. Just don't post it here. This is the Sonic R. System thread. Please respect that. If you post, please post per the Sonic R. System. That doesn't mean just slapping the 34ema lines on a chart! If you don't understand what this simple, effective system is, then start with Post #1 and read.

Thank you for your cooperation,
-tah
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  • #45,563
  • Apr 1, 2013 10:05am Apr 1, 2013 10:05am
Quoting traderathome
AJ Comment: H4 now shows the Dragon crossing down thru the Trend Line, a very bearish indication. Price is now in a significant S&R area. I'd expect the normal fare of retraces upwards put on by the MMs as they go back up for addtional shorting, but a downside target in the 94.00 area is not out of the question, based on an FE study. We are at the start of a new month, so there is plenty of time for this to cycle up and down as progress is made towards such a lower level. Dragon is angled down. Trend is angled down. PA is decisively below both....
AJ Comment:

And here's the proof. The MMs pulled the price back up (Note: above half number. What a clue!) and then engaged in another heavy selloff.
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  • #45,564
  • Edited 10:26am Apr 1, 2013 10:15am | Edited 10:26am
Quoting well72
No, the reason I do not need. I just want to take such movements. So I ask, how to do it. Go to a smaller timeframe?
You want to take such movements. Ok, but not all price movements satisfy the Sonic R. System setup. If you insist on trying to capitalize on all price movements, I suggest you will fail. Learn the Sonic R. System and practice it. Do lots of reading, studying and thinking over the material from the beginning of this thread. This thread is the textbook. If it is cumbersome, then thank all the others that came here, did not read and think and just posted garbage. You will just have to wade thru it.

I suggest you start by reading Post #1, everything in Post #1 and everything linked in Post #1. Then start reading all of Sonic's posts. You want an easier way to really learn other than reading, studying, thinking, reflecting and practicing? There isn't one.

The reversal you show I have put on M5 (attached). You could have dropped down to M5 during the LS and maybe gained entry 16 pips or so sooner. That is always an option. On M15 the SonicR entry would have been just above the whole number.
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  • #45,565
  • Apr 1, 2013 10:33am Apr 1, 2013 10:33am
Quoting traderathome
EU: Entered long. This is a re-entry and is based on anticipation MMs will hike price above half number later in order to switch from bull to bear. I could be wrong. No SL. TP is tentative. {image}
Quoting traderathome
EU: Added long trade #2, a Scout based on high incoming Asian session volume after the Asian session MM torpedoed the price. Still no SL is set, and TP1 is tentative. {image}
EU Long Trade:

Closed both trades at TP2 for 63x2= 126 pips gain, average EPx2 to TP1. This rise might just be the beginning of a bigger move this week (see previous posts). I intend to keep watching, now for a pullback downwards for a re-entry long.
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  • #45,566
  • Edited 11:03am Apr 1, 2013 10:50am | Edited 11:03am
GU Comment, Inverted H&S:

This powerful, basic price action formation (i.e., signal), which I have been posting on for quite some time now (all last week and before!) is still in play. And, imho, high falutin' ABCD patterns, Elliot Waves,....none of that other over complicated, waste-of-time nonsense that might proclaim this to be bearish,.....is going to stop this formation from completing! We'll see.

The elegantly simple and effective Sonic R. System rocks!
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  • #45,567
  • Apr 1, 2013 11:08am Apr 1, 2013 11:08am
Quoting traderathome
GU Comment, Inverted H&S: This powerful, basic price action formation (i.e., signal), which I have been posting on for quite some time now (all last week and before!) is still in play. And, imho, high falutin' ABCD patterns, Elliot Waves,....none of that other over complicated, waste-of-time nonsense that might proclaim this to be bearish,.....is going to stop this formation from completing! We'll see. The elegantly simple and effective Sonic R. System rocks! {image}
Totally agree with u tah. However, I think there is only one thing who can stop that, and that is the NFP US data this week. If there is a big positive desviation from the forecast, we could see the GU down rally again. Of course, this is off-topic and the sonic system is not affectad by this, but I think it's good to take into account.

Thanks again for your work
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  • #45,568
  • Apr 1, 2013 11:10am Apr 1, 2013 11:10am
UCad Comment:

This has been held down the last 4 out of 5 days last week, and continues to be held down. But today there is a whopping bullish price-volume indication the MMs not only remain bullish, but might be readying for a move up. Today the MMs remanufactured lows and then proceeded to engage in very heavy trading up off those lows. Love SonicR! Looks like the MMs might be finishing up their accumulation and getting ready for the mark up!
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  • #45,569
  • Apr 1, 2013 11:18am Apr 1, 2013 11:18am
Quoting traderathome
UCad Comment: This has been held down the last 4 out of 5 days last week, and continues to be held down. But today there is a whopping bullish price-volume indication the MMs not only remain bullish, but might be readying for a move up. Today the MMs remanufactured lows and then proceeded to engage in very heavy trading up off those lows. Love SonicR! {image}
Is it possible stay long simultaneously on EU & UCAD? what about the correlation?
  • #45,570
  • Apr 1, 2013 1:33pm Apr 1, 2013 1:33pm
EUR/GBP LONG (M15 TimeFrame)

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Dragon: Pointing Upward
Wave: YES
Trend: Cut through Dragon and below PA
Volume: Don't know.
Time of Trade: NY SESSION

Risk: 15-20 Pips
Reward: Aiming 30-50 Pips (TP not set, but my target is to make at least 30 pips)


Comment : This chart is quite well form, the only downside is that the pair involve is Euro and fundamental news might just be enough to wipe the trade off.
However I still decided to trade this pair as the risk is pretty small and its abide to the Sonic R System open trade criteria.
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  • #45,571
  • Apr 1, 2013 1:51pm Apr 1, 2013 1:51pm
Quoting baokydev
EUR/GBP LONG (M15 TimeFrame) {image} Dragon: Pointing Upward Wave: YES Trend: Cut through Dragon and below PA Volume: Don't know. Time of Trade: NY SESSION Risk: 15-20 Pips Reward: Aiming 30-50 Pips (TP not set, but my target is to make at least 30 pips) Comment : This chart is quite well form, the only downside is that the pair involve is Euro and fundamental news might just be enough to wipe the trade off. However I still decided to trade this pair as the risk is pretty small and its abide to the Sonic R System open trade criteria.

its time to trade??
  • #45,572
  • Edited 4:22pm Apr 1, 2013 3:55pm | Edited 4:22pm
Quoting Afarensis
Is it possible stay long simultaneously on EU & UCAD? what about the correlation?
What correlation are you referring to?

Are you under the impression that since both involve USD, if USD strengthens then EU must drop and UCad must rise? If that is the case, then what would you say should happen if the euro strengthens, the Canadian dollar weakens, and the USD remains unchanged? Huh?

And what if USD "news" is great, but the MMs decide to pump EU anyway, right along with UCad?

Look, crap like "correlation" is all a bunch of bullshit! Trade the chart of the instrument that you are trading! Pay attention! Focus! MMs play games. It is how they win and others lose! Focus on the PA and S&R and the volume on the chart of what you are trading, and put all that other nonsense out of your mind. On any day the MMs can move any pair in whatever direction they want to, for the purpose of taking money from others and to hell with everything else, including consistency and "correlations"!

Just My Take,
-tah
  • #45,573
  • Apr 1, 2013 4:16pm Apr 1, 2013 4:16pm
EU Long Trade:

I have re-entered long here, a Sonic R. re-entry trade. The MMs have pulled the price back down to a previous S&R area, and about a FR 38% retracement of the last move up. Between now and next London session the MMs might work this down further. If they do so sufficiently, I might add to this long trade. The Dragon is angled up. The Trend is angled up. PA is essentially above both, except for this pullback to/into/thru (as the case may be) the Dragon. No SL and no TP is yet set.
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  • #45,574
  • Edited 8:39pm Apr 1, 2013 8:12pm | Edited 8:39pm
Quoting traderathome
AU Short Trade: Entered trade #1 short, a re-entry based on previous heavy selloff and now a pull back to the whole number. It could get pulled up even higher. If high enough, I might add another short trade. No SL and no TP are set at this time. See previous post for more information. {image}
Quoting traderathome
AU Short Trade: Added short trade #2, a scout based on the MMs having driven the price up to a previous level of highs. No SL. TP1 now set. {image}
AU Short Trade:

Added short trade #3, a Scout based on the Asian session MMs, ahead of AUD high impact releases, hiking the price even further and following that up with heavy trading at the highs. The price might get pumped even more. If sufficiently more, I might add to this short trade again. No SL is set and the TP1 is tentative.
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  • #45,575
  • Apr 1, 2013 8:38pm Apr 1, 2013 8:38pm
Quoting traderathome
AU Short Trade: Entered trade #1 short, a re-entry based on previous heavy selloff and now a pull back to the whole number. It could get pulled up even higher. If high enough, I might add another short trade. No SL and no TP are set at this time. See previous post for more information. {image}
Quoting traderathome
AU Short Trade: Added short trade #2, a scout based on the MMs having driven the price up to a previous level of highs. No SL. TP1 now set. {image}
Quoting traderathome
AU Short Trade: Added short trade #3, a Scout based on the Asian session MMs, ahead of AUD high impact releases, hiking the price even further and following that up with heavy trading at the highs. The price might get pumped even more. If sufficiently more, I might add to this short trade again. No SL is set and the TP1 is tentative. {image}
AU Short Trade:

Added short trade #4, another Scout and based on the MMs putting the price back up to the area of previous highs above the half number. Now to wait and see.
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  • #45,576
  • Apr 1, 2013 9:14pm Apr 1, 2013 9:14pm
I am with you on that my friend!

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  • #45,577
  • Apr 1, 2013 10:28pm Apr 1, 2013 10:28pm
Quoting traderathome
AU Short Trade: Entered trade #1 short, a re-entry based on previous heavy selloff and now a pull back to the whole number. It could get pulled up even higher. If high enough, I might add another short trade. No SL and no TP are set at this time. See previous post for more information. {image}
Quoting traderathome
AU Short Trade: Added short trade #2, a scout based on the MMs having driven the price up to a previous level of highs. No SL. TP1 now set. {image}
Quoting traderathome
AU Short Trade: Added short trade #3, a Scout based on the Asian session MMs, ahead of AUD high impact releases, hiking the price even further and following that up with heavy trading at the highs. The price might get pumped even more. If sufficiently more, I might add to this short trade again. No SL is set and the TP1 is tentative. {image}
Quoting traderathome
AU Short Trade: Added short trade #4, another Scout and based on the MMs putting the price back up to the area of previous highs above the half number. Now to wait and see. {image}
AU Short Trade:

Added short trade #5, again a Scout as the MMs rammed up the price just minutes before the releases.
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  • #45,578
  • Apr 1, 2013 10:42pm Apr 1, 2013 10:42pm
Quoting traderathome
UCad: Added long trade #5, Scout. {image}
UCad Long Trade:

Added long trade #6, a Scout based on MMs again hitting the lows and engaging in heavy trading.
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  • #45,579
  • Apr 1, 2013 10:51pm Apr 1, 2013 10:51pm
Quoting traderathome
AU Short Trade: Added short trade #5, again a Scout as the MMs rammed up the price just minutes before the releases. {image}
AU Short Trade:

Added short trade #6, another Scout and the final one I think.
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  • #45,580
  • Apr 2, 2013 12:38am Apr 2, 2013 12:38am
Yesterday was daily bullish pin bar.
It was confrimation of continuing of long trend.
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