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  • #780,201
  • Mar 30, 2013 10:32am Mar 30, 2013 10:32am
Quoting Tom_D_Trader
I think as well it will take some time. Like five years. Why do you think you cant shut down country? Anyone can go bankrupt. Enterprise, Me, Family and State as well.

Can you expand on those "important payments" part, or was it just general conclusion? Normally, states are rerolling debt like on weekly basis, so it is kinda hard to "talk it up" because of one payment.
How and who Japan is going to file the bankcruptcy to? BIS? Japan is holding more foreign debt in the form of bonds or other assets class. And how does bankcrupty will solve the problem in Japan other than start over and after 50 years same problem they are facing today assuming productive generation group remain at the same rate from year to year.

I can't imagine Japan dissapear no more Yen, Lexus, Sony, etc. There will be more countries to dissapear before Japan.

About the payment was all in the news. Can you think of the benefits for EZ when E/U hit 1.3713?
  • #780,202
  • Mar 30, 2013 10:37am Mar 30, 2013 10:37am
Btw, while at this topic, there is no coming back, so there has to be some evolution or revolution. We cant get back to times of merkantilism as advantages of globalized trade bring too much of GDP. It is good that every state does what he is best of and trades it with others. If just leaders acknowledged we are mankind and stopped robbing their neighbours. Ah, what a dream.
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  • #780,203
  • Mar 30, 2013 10:43am Mar 30, 2013 10:43am
Quoting Tom_D_Trader
Btw, while at this topic, there is no coming back, so there has to be some evolution or revolution. We cant get back to times of merkantilism as advantages of globalized trade bring too much of GDP. It is good that every state does what he is best of and trades it with others. If just leaders acknowledged we are mankind and stopped robbing their neighbours. Ah, what a dream.
where the heck have you been mate ?
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  • #780,204
  • Mar 30, 2013 10:47am Mar 30, 2013 10:47am
Quoting Ken A
About the payment was all in the news. Can you think of the benefits for EZ when E/U hit 1.3713?
Well I could if you told me what are you talking about. Remember, I just came back from mountains? Havent been reading news for three months.

Quoting Ken A
How and who Japan is going to file the bankcruptcy to? BIS? Japan is holding more foreign debt in the form of bonds or other assets class. And how does bankcrupty will solve the problem in Japan other than start over and after 50 years same problem they are facing today assuming productive generation group remain at the same rate from year to year.

I can't imagine Japan dissapear no more Yen, Lexus, Sony, etc. There will be more countries to dissapear before Japan.
You are focusing too much on the technical side. Who are they going to file the bankrupcy to? Perhaps to the one who borrowed em money? Companies, states, whatever.

Btw, I aint saying Japan is anywhere close to this scenario, all I am saying is, anyone can go bankrupt. If you dont have cash to pay for your debts, no way to obtain the cash (after they have superhigh taxes, cut all spending and bond rates shoot up), you are bankrupt. And I have also never said bankrupcy solves problem in Japan. It is just the end of the problem if they are unable to face it.

T
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  • #780,205
  • Mar 30, 2013 10:47am Mar 30, 2013 10:47am
Quoting Tom_D_Trader
Btw, while at this topic, there is no coming back, so there has to be some evolution or revolution. We cant get back to times of merkantilism as advantages of globalized trade bring too much of GDP. It is good that every state does what he is best of and trades it with others. If just leaders acknowledged we are mankind and stopped robbing their neighbours. Ah, what a dream.
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  • #780,206
  • Mar 30, 2013 10:57am Mar 30, 2013 10:57am
Quoting Vtmn
where the heck have you been mate ?
My last account, which was kinda big for me, made 2% in two months (so far so good), but I got hammered by ER exposure to my domestic currency, which, thanks to "haharecovery" of Eurozone strenghtened a lot and cost me 10%. So I have fled to mountains teaching snowboarding, relax from this nonscence market, gather strength and voilá, here I am .
"I know one thing, that I know nothing." Sokrates
  • #780,207
  • Mar 30, 2013 11:23am Mar 30, 2013 11:23am
Quoting Ken A
Re-install nuke power plant is bigger.
Not going to happen. Japan has two electric grids. East and west. Fukushima Daiichi is on the eastern grid.

The western grid was not impacted at all. However, as a display of solidarity for the people on the eastern grid, they implemented the very same power saving measures.

Call it solidarity, call it patriotism, call it Japan being weird. They have done and are continuing to do so.

The knee-jerk reaction is "nuke plants are bad". Forgetting that if they gave up on all those plants, they would have to all be decommissioned at huge cost. Plus, they would have to import more natural gas and oil than they already are which would put them at the mercy of the supplier.

They are stuck between public opinion and real life. Nukes are bad but do they want oil and gas exporters to supply all their energy to eventually dictate their policies?
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  • #780,208
  • Mar 30, 2013 11:24am Mar 30, 2013 11:24am
Quoting ec_creep
car manufacters are rejoicing, while electronics manufacturers are being strangled. which one is bigger in japan?
In terms of raw jobs within Japan, the car industry.
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  • #780,209
  • Mar 30, 2013 11:28am Mar 30, 2013 11:28am
Quoting Tom_D_Trader
My last account, which was kinda big for me, made 2% in two months (so far so good), but I got hammered by ER exposure to my domestic currency, which, thanks to "haharecovery" of Eurozone strenghtened a lot and cost me 10%. So I have fled to mountains teaching snowboarding, relax from this nonscence market, gather strength and voilá, here I am .
thats great man, welcome back

cant wait to get back to the mountains in summer...
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  • #780,210
  • Mar 30, 2013 11:40am Mar 30, 2013 11:40am
Quoting Jay Walker
.Forgetting that if they gave up on all those plants, they would have to all be decommissioned at huge cost.
Well you are ofc right with those decommissioning costs, costs of importing other energy sources and so, but I thought they really gave up. Those plants aint running, or are they? I ve heard in January, they are considering turning few on, but still, they are offline.
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  • #780,211
  • Mar 30, 2013 11:50am Mar 30, 2013 11:50am
Would BOJ intervene on Monday? That would move the markets nicely

Anyway so far as I remember they used to do it on Thursdays
  • #780,212
  • Mar 30, 2013 12:03pm Mar 30, 2013 12:03pm
Quoting demoreal
Would BOJ intervene on Monday? That would move the markets nicely

Anyway so far as I remember they used to do it on Thursdays
BOJ: Expect only a small change in the first meeting under Kuroda

http://www.forexcrunch.com/boj-expec...-under-kuroda/
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  • #780,213
  • Mar 30, 2013 12:04pm Mar 30, 2013 12:04pm
Quoting Tom_D_Trader
Well you are ofc right with those decommissioning costs, costs of importing other energy sources and so, but I thought they really gave up. Those plants aint running, or are they? I ve heard in January, they are considering turning few on, but still, they are offline.
They bloody well should reopen them. Unless they are decommissioned, it's just as dangerous to have the plant sit there. Very few in Japan get that.
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  • #780,214
  • Mar 30, 2013 12:07pm Mar 30, 2013 12:07pm
Quoting Jay Walker
Not going to happen. Japan has two electric grids. East and west. Fukushima Daiichi is on the eastern grid.

The western grid was not impacted at all. However, as a display of solidarity for the people on the eastern grid, they implemented the very same power saving measures.

Call it solidarity, call it patriotism, call it Japan being weird. They have done and are continuing to do so.

The knee-jerk reaction is "nuke plants are bad". Forgetting that if they gave up on all those plants, they would have to all be decommissioned at huge...
Unless other cheaper energy sources made available, sooner or later will come to term with neccesity.
  • #780,215
  • Mar 30, 2013 12:16pm Mar 30, 2013 12:16pm
Quoting EuroTraderJD
BOJ: Expect only a small change in the first meeting under Kuroda

http://www.forexcrunch.com/boj-expec...-under-kuroda/
I'd say another intervention is overdue. Last time there were pushing eur/jpy nicely in a predictable manner (every Thursday)
  • #780,216
  • Mar 30, 2013 12:18pm Mar 30, 2013 12:18pm
Quoting Jay Walker
In terms of raw jobs within Japan, the car industry.
what I was looking for, thx, J!

what do you have in mind with south korea? if the won is indeed depreciating, regaining some of their competitive edges against japan's, aren't they going to do the same as japan? I haven't found anything yet so far abt south korea's economic policy regarding that matter. just a thought, since you may know a whole lot more on south korea's.
  • #780,217
  • Mar 30, 2013 12:25pm Mar 30, 2013 12:25pm
Quoting Ken A
Unless other cheaper energy sources made available, sooner or later will come to term with neccesity.
I think, the output efficiencies on each energy sources is also a subject there. we're having the same problem here in my country, though yes, we have a pretty decent natural gas deposit. we have the land, sources, but not the tech stuffs. it costs so damn much to build those gas power plants. hydros are pretty abundant, but in terms of efficiency... phew
  • #780,218
  • Mar 30, 2013 12:44pm Mar 30, 2013 12:44pm
Quoting Ken A
Unless other cheaper energy sources made available, sooner or later will come to term with neccesity.
Let's say hypothetically that we're very close to having alternative energy sources that are just as cheap as what we currently use. Very close is what? 5 years?

To be within 5 years, that source would have to be discovered and commercially viable not today but last year. Then it's a matter of either converting existing infrastructure or creating a new one.

It's a huge challenge but a doable one if everybody pushes in the same direction.

But meanwhile, we're stuck with the current sources.
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  • #780,219
  • Mar 30, 2013 12:53pm Mar 30, 2013 12:53pm
Quoting ec_creep
what I was looking for, thx, J!

what do you have in mind with south korea? if the won is indeed depreciating, regaining some of their competitive edges against japan's, aren't they going to do the same as japan? I haven't found anything yet so far abt south korea's economic policy regarding that matter. just a thought, since you may know a whole lot more on south korea's.
Seriously; that's giving me lots of undue credit.

But consider this; The Japanese giants; Sony, Panasonic, Toshiba, Mitsubishi, all outsource at least some of their manufacturing.

The Koreans until very recently, didn't. And even now, the majority of the manufacturing is done within Korea.

The Koreans have observed Japan and saw that too much outsourcing is not healthy. They are being patient and steady. Their recent purchase of gold seems to me like a sound fiscal policy is in place. The only concern I have is what Pyongyang has in mind.
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  • #780,220
  • Mar 30, 2013 1:04pm Mar 30, 2013 1:04pm
Quoting Jay Walker
The only concern I have is what Pyongyang has in mind.
Blackmail, they know for the West to exercise war will be very expensive and human casualties is invetable as collateral damage to South K.
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