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  • #45,101
  • Mar 21, 2013 7:10am Mar 21, 2013 7:10am
Quoting traderathome
And? So?

You see, there is a procedure to all of this (if you have been reading):

1. Find one or more situations that reveal the MMs are bulls or bears.
2. Don't be surprised it price continues to move opposite and showing more examples.
3. Don't trade on volume alone, use the information by waiting for the next appropriate setup.

And, your trade was based on ..........? Somebody used to post, "WHO CARES!" What I see is you took a valid short trade (opposite what the MMs are in the bigger picture, but that is quite ok!), but entered...
My trade based on:
1) Weekly trend defined by OsMA is down. Also Bearish engalfing from last week candle.
2) Yesterday's candle was Bearish inside bar
3) Today's entry is based on breaking out of S/R level from yesterday's Day low price.
Everything is possible!!! Step by Step...
  • #45,102
  • Mar 21, 2013 7:12am Mar 21, 2013 7:12am
Sonicdeejay and Professor Tah, hats of to you for bringing this system and your knowledge public.

And prof. TAH - your firm an consistent dismanteling of the information available bringing the intentions of the big players behind the sceene in to the light and exposing "the GAME" brings out a lot of feelings. The excitement and confusion arising from reading your posts, which by the way are written in an excellent style, stems from the shock of slowly realising to what extent the market seems to be manipulated. Well, better realising sooner than later..

Following from that, all over the news today is that the chrisis in Cyprus threatens the (Euro)system and that Cyprus might be bankrupt next week, itīs no surprise I guess to see the EU recover to the end of the week just to be hammered next week when the Cyprus chrisis peaks.

Thanks

Waez
  • #45,103
  • Mar 21, 2013 7:26am Mar 21, 2013 7:26am
UCad: Added long trade #4, Scout, for obvious reasons.
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  • #45,104
  • Mar 21, 2013 7:36am Mar 21, 2013 7:36am
Been waiting for you..

"I am with everyone and you are not"

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Sonic
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  • #45,105
  • Mar 21, 2013 8:09am Mar 21, 2013 8:09am
EU Comment, Covert Bears in Bull Clothing:

Still in range, but below H&S neckline in spite of the MMs pull up. Two USD high impact releases to go, in about an hour. The MMs pull up most likely is just to encourage would-be longs, maybe get the greedy ones to jump the gun and enter before the releases. Gives MMs more shorts. The MMs might whipsaw price in conjunction with releases. You know the story behind that.....

....as price moves up in a whip the stops on shorts are hit and pending longs are triggered into the market. As price moves down the stops on longs are hit and pending shorts are triggered into the market.

So, creative whipsawing can net the MMs lots of liquidity for additional shorting before revealing the facts; they are bears and about to ram this down your throat!. Well, the real ramming might not come on real strong right away. The longer the MMs can fiddle and fart around, moving price up and down and suckering in more wrong side traders, the better for the MMs. The MMs can see, just as we can, there are huge profits to be made here. So, before everyone becomes convinced this will play out, the MMs will work PA to convince as many as possible it won't.

Patience. The H&S remains in play and today's biggest move/volume was to the downside.

-tah
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  • #45,106
  • Mar 21, 2013 8:26am Mar 21, 2013 8:26am
Quoting traderathome
UCad Comment:

MMs have taken the price right back down to one of their recent favorite areas to build long (H1 chart). Higher trading levels now start to appear (M1). In about an hour there are CAD and USD releases. Without gobs of fancy indicators making complex computations from price, you have all the information needed. Bull or bear?

-tah
UCad Comment, New Longs to the Sacrifice?

The answer was clearly that the MMs are bulls. Ok, we know that, and knew it then. And now, in less than an hour, two more USD releases. Things get interesting,....will the MMs wack/whip the price down again, hitting longs and triggering shorts to get even more liquidity for additional longs of their own? After all, think of the longs that have come in since the bottom. They are ripe for getting screwed by the MMs! Those still short,...their time comes later.

-tah
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  • #45,107
  • Mar 21, 2013 8:32am Mar 21, 2013 8:32am
Quoting traderathome
UCad Comment, New Longs to the Sacrifice?

The answer was clearly that the MMs are bulls. Ok, we know that, and knew it then. And now, in less than an hour, two more USD releases. Things get interesting,....will the MMs wack/whip the price down again, hitting longs and triggering shorts to get even more liquidity for additional longs of their own? After all, think of the longs that have come in since the bottom. They are ripe for getting screwed by the MMs! Those still short,...their time comes later.

-tah
Alright, now tell me, HOW MANY BANKS DO YOU OWN?!!

Your speculations (more like predictions) are always spot on. Sure took you tons and tons of screen time + experience to arrive at this stage.

Hats off for you professor TAH!
Knowing is not enough; we must apply. Willing is not enough; we must do.
  • #45,108
  • Mar 21, 2013 8:38am Mar 21, 2013 8:38am
GU Comment, Profits Galore!

Yep, that is what is in store for the MMs. See? As if the three trips up/down/up (over 100 pips each!) yesterday was not enough, the greedy MMs are at it again! Guess everyone is wise to the fact the MMs are bulls. So, the only way the MMs can add longs now is to hit the stops on the longs of others. Oh, and maybe trigger wrong side shorts into the market, though it is difficult to imagine anyone thinking of shorting under the circumstances of recent PA.

Like with EU, before everyone becomes convinced the inverted H&S will play out, the MMs are working hard to convince them it won't!

-tah
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  • #45,109
  • Mar 21, 2013 8:41am Mar 21, 2013 8:41am
Quoting sonicdeejay
GU possible topping out??

http://www.forexfactory.com/attachme...1&d=1363866156

Sonic
Almost 2 hrs and 90 min later..

Told cha..

Sonic
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  • #45,110
  • Edited 9:01am Mar 21, 2013 8:50am | Edited 9:01am
Quoting keroro0o0o
Alright, now tell me, HOW MANY BANKS DO YOU OWN?!!

Your speculations (more like predictions) are always spot on. Sure took you tons and tons of screen time + experience to arrive at this stage.

Hats off for you professor TAH!
Well, I don't own any bank. I do own stock in a bank, but it is going nowhere. It keeps trying to trade against me and loses money!

(Just kidding. I refuse to own stock and I refuse to do business with any of the "Thieves of Wall Street" firms. It is not that one cannot make money there. It is a matter of principle. That is a totally evil market, dominated by the same greedy and evil folks that put this world into the financial mess it is in; the sort of folks that control the big investment houses/banks, the sort of folks that they turned to to get bailed out so their ill-gotten gains could be preserved while shifting the consequences of their evil actions to everyone else, folks such as the GS ex-CEO that headed the US Treasury at the time and spear-headed the TARP bailout of his super-rich comrades. As far as I am concerned, let those folks make money screwing each other. My opinion? A man has to have prinicples or he is not a man, but an instrument of evil, however unwittingly.)

Well, enough of that,
-tah
  • #45,111
  • Mar 21, 2013 8:53am Mar 21, 2013 8:53am
Back to the Blu, Entered E/U Scout long @ 1.2906.. Nice R:R with SL within 30~40 for potential bigger pay out... Big impact news in 10 mins time.. Risky as hell..





Sonic
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  • #45,112
  • Mar 21, 2013 9:01am Mar 21, 2013 9:01am
Helle, Sonicer:

New Trade, Sell EURUSD....
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  • #45,113
  • Mar 21, 2013 9:15am Mar 21, 2013 9:15am
GU Comment, "Bottoming"?

Earlier, Sonic alerted us to the "topping". I posted some on the logic of the bull MMs taking time to reset prices low in order to add more longs before the true start of a Mark Up phase, in conjunction with an inverted H&S. I think we might be seeing now, the objective of the pull down since that "topping". Some strong trading levels are coming in now that the MMs have reset the price low. It could go lower. That is the problem with spotting such "bullishness". There is no telling when the MMs will cease wacking the price to add longs (or close shorts, as the case sometimes is).

-tah
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  • #45,114
  • Mar 21, 2013 9:19am Mar 21, 2013 9:19am
Quoting sonicdeejay
Almost 2 hrs and 90 min later..

Told cha..

Sonic
Nice one - I was a bit slow in catching on - too focused in selling the € Dragon which is now about to complete its 10 day ADR, so time to bank those pips

Edit: and it has - at the 122.50 level too
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  • #45,115
  • Mar 21, 2013 9:23am Mar 21, 2013 9:23am
Quoting sonicdeejay
Back to the Blu, Entered E/U Scout long @ 1.2906.. Nice R:R with SL within 30~40 for potential bigger pay out... Big impact news in 10 mins time.. Risky as hell..
Sonic
"Risky as hell...." is correct! This is what comes of trading with a naked chart. The Dragon and Trend Line are a part of the Sonic R. System. As much as one might enjoy trying the "purist" way, it adds to the risk. You don't get to see the clues that tell you everything is in place,....the "Momentum Meter"!

When you entered PA was below the Dragon. The Dragon was angled down. And the Tend Line was angled down. And the Dragon had crossed down thru the Trend Line. Not to mention the price/volume study clearly demonstrated the MMs are bears......

....and you entered long.
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  • #45,116
  • Edited 10:16am Mar 21, 2013 9:37am | Edited 10:16am
UJ Short, Anyone?

The H1 chart shows the Dragon with strong angle down and maybe soon to cross down thru the Trend Line. The Trend Line is angled down. PA is below both. The icing on the cake is the breach of the TL and then the price move back up to the area, put on by the MMs for adding more shorts; what the market benignly calls "testing" so you don't really have a clear idea of what the Market Manipulators are actually doing.

Remember, MMs prefer to build short positions above whole numbers (half numbers, too), and this current bar is smack dab in the right area for that.

BTW, look at M1 (attached via Edit) and see the volume bar associated with the MMs most recent manipulation of the price back up to the TL. Bulls or Bears?

This ain't rocket science. And you don't need a bag full of garbage price derivative indicators to be successful. In fact, they will inhibit your success by making you a mindless robot, putting your faith in complex calculations derived from antique prices (all indicators except volume), a person that has never leaned the psycology of the market. You must learn the psycology of the market. When you learn the psycology of PA relative to S&R, and understand the role volume rightfully plays, you won't need a bag full of garbage indicators and you will be more profitable. Get rid of them! They are distracting you from learning what you need to learn. Well, do what you want to do, but that is my recommendation.

-tah
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  • #45,117
  • Mar 21, 2013 9:43am Mar 21, 2013 9:43am
Quoting traderathome
"Risky as hell...." is correct! This is what comes of trading with a naked chart. The Dragon and Trend Line are a part of the Sonic R. System. As much as one might enjoy trying the "purist" way, it adds to the risk. You don't get to see the clues that tell you everything is in place,....the "Momentum Meter"!

When you entered PA was below the Dragon. The Dragon was angled down. And the Tend Line was angled down. And the Dragon had crossed down thru the Trend Line. Not to mention the price/volume study clearly demonstrated the MMs...
Thx for that...

The chart was with d1tf template... Didn't load dragon..
Should have been more picky,,

But let the mkt decides...
Sonic
  • #45,118
  • Mar 21, 2013 10:15am Mar 21, 2013 10:15am
Took a scout short - hoping they will run some stops

Regards,

H.
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  • #45,119
  • Mar 21, 2013 10:24am Mar 21, 2013 10:24am
Quoting hansma
Took a scout short - hoping they will run some stops Regards, H.
Hansma, not a bad idea! When the LS closes and the market goes soft/far less active, that is a time the MMs can more easily manipulate prices to where they want them; costs 'em less to pull it off. So, a manipulation that is nice and deep might be just what these greedy bastards set out to do. Would reset the price lower, and in the process create liquidity by hitting long stops and pending shorts, for them to add more longs at whatever bottom they achieve, as you point out.

Tight stop on the short, though. Or constant live monitoring, just in case they don't?

-tah
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  • #45,120
  • Mar 21, 2013 10:34am Mar 21, 2013 10:34am
GU:

A long setup, in LS, with supporting volume off lows. Dragon angled up. Trend angled up. PA above both. Setup on half number for break upwards, after the MMs manipulated price back below half number to load up additional longs.

-tah
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