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  • #773,401
  • Mar 18, 2013 11:21am Mar 18, 2013 11:21am
i need her to climb up more
follow the flow of music $
  • #773,402
  • Mar 18, 2013 11:22am Mar 18, 2013 11:22am
Quoting attila
oh, btw London closing in 10..
fine timing, eh?
  • #773,403
  • Mar 18, 2013 11:23am Mar 18, 2013 11:23am
Quoting Psy_4X
Looking to buy...
Nope. No proper set up. Next time...
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  • #773,404
  • Mar 18, 2013 11:23am Mar 18, 2013 11:23am
Quoting SpacyTrader
Give it time until they build enough pipelines to ship the oil and LNG out...
then its a export.... are you serous? 2x shipping cost?
those who can, do. those who cant, talk about those who can
  • #773,405
  • Mar 18, 2013 11:24am Mar 18, 2013 11:24am
Quoting Firstboss
Think globally, the USA is not the only working model. McDonalds gives a dignified treatment to its employees in Europe. You'll be surprised, but in the Netherlands, for example, they get sick leave, paid vacation, 38-hour work week. They all have teeth, and they fill like equal members of the society.
As a result there is less aggression and stress in the society, there is less spending on police and prisons, there is less costly health care.
Surprisingly, McDonaldses are everywhere - somehow they are able to fit that profit margin in their business...
Yeah. Been to Switzerland. I assume they do that there as well. And a burger costs vastly more than it does in my native Romania for ex. The evil rich people are not gonna pay for it all- the people are if they can afford it. In western Europe to the extent that they can still generate enough value for employers to keep that going they'll still have that. Increasingly however it begins to no longer be the case. The greeks were doing pretty well too until their ponzi economy imploded. I cant wait for France: that workers paradise is gonna be spectacular when it blows.
  • #773,406
  • Mar 18, 2013 11:27am Mar 18, 2013 11:27am
hy everyone my name is florin , i am a newbie and i want to learn more about forex
  • #773,407
  • Mar 18, 2013 11:27am Mar 18, 2013 11:27am
Quoting gatorinla
then its a export.... are you serous? 2x shipping cost?
Ok they'll have to overcome that as was the case until now. Bottom line oil and gas at that point will no longer be cheaper in the US. The chinese will only have the shipping costs going against them which is not much of an advantage: http://www.petrostrategies.org/Learn...ipping%20Costs
  • #773,408
  • Mar 18, 2013 11:28am Mar 18, 2013 11:28am
Quoting ganam
i need her to climb up more
it will need to PB and regas first so it may be while or that may be the top.
  • #773,409
  • Mar 18, 2013 11:28am Mar 18, 2013 11:28am
im still figuring out the 95, it seems a pa from the 50.0 fibo .
  • #773,410
  • Mar 18, 2013 11:30am Mar 18, 2013 11:30am
Quoting SpacyTrader
Yeah. Been to Switzerland. I assume they do that there as well. And a burger costs vastly more than it does in my native Romania for ex. The evil rich people are not gonna pay for it all- the people are if they can afford it. In western Europe to the extent that they can still generate enough value for employers to keep that going they'll still have that. Increasingly however it begins to no longer be the case. The greeks were doing pretty well too until their ponzi economy imploded. I cant wait for France: that workers paradise is gonna be spectacular...
The Greeks are a different story - it is traditionally a corrupt economy and corrupt society (also your native Romania, and my native Russia).
The strongest EU economies are doing great. The people aren't overworked, they live balanced and fulfilling lives.
The society wins by having less aggression, cheaper healthcare burden, much less police and prison spending.
The burgers in the Netherlands cost roughly the same as in the USA - McDonalds even has a 1-euro menu.
"Luxury is one of the basic needs", (c), Don Corleone
  • #773,411
  • Mar 18, 2013 11:31am Mar 18, 2013 11:31am
Quoting attila
there's 95.. let's see if it turns here..
Nice call there. Given I expect to log this pig soonish I would expect it to drop for now. Either way dont care much about the chop.
  • #773,412
  • Mar 18, 2013 11:33am Mar 18, 2013 11:33am
Guys please help.
I trade only EU.
WHat have I take atention on London close or open level? What it can be important to me?
thanks
  • #773,413
  • Mar 18, 2013 11:33am Mar 18, 2013 11:33am
Quoting Firstboss
Well, you can't really expect your country to be a dominant global power that pushes business interests of its corporations globally and by any means available. As soon as others grow enough muscles (like China) they rightfully claim their share of the world markets. You can only respect their success.

It's a bit too late to do anything about it (this long-term economic power shift started with Reaganomics) - at this point one can only observe the shift while eating popcorn.
why not? the consumers are here. the raw materials are here. and that makes it cheaper to produce here.. w/o shipping twice... this new energy is a big thing..more then its being promoted. more then people realize. And its not including the new drilling in California
those who can, do. those who cant, talk about those who can
  • #773,414
  • Mar 18, 2013 11:33am Mar 18, 2013 11:33am
1.3020 breaks , EU might go north. if it doesnt , likely short from there.
  • #773,415
  • Mar 18, 2013 11:35am Mar 18, 2013 11:35am
Closing on the gap would be a decent victory for the bulls, but this is a clear victory, the bulls won today. (if it doesnt drop ofcourse)
"You're solid gold, see you in hell"
  • #773,416
  • Mar 18, 2013 11:36am Mar 18, 2013 11:36am
Quoting SpacyTrader
The crysis happened precisely because banks acted rationally. They responded to the implicit guarantees of US gov mortgage companies who bought the mortgages the banks originated- the banks signed the mortgages while the government took the risks. Again- government's fault. Just recently they made those same companies now fully government owned again provide 3% downpayment 3% interest mortgages to people who cant afford it- I'm sure it'll work out differently from last time!

The swiss banking sector is not better because is more regulated- its...
You pretend the government just decided to pull this off on their own...guess who bribed (sorry...I meant "lobby") those very government officials into letting this happen? You should really read the following link if you believe governments are creating that mess all on their own...they're being bribed into doing it: LINK

As for your wage example...that makes no sense whatsoever. According to your example, why not let everyone work for 1 cent an hour? After all, if people don't like it companies could simply move elsewhere? It's a great example of why capitalism needs regulations and restrictions to protect the citizens as a whole. American Samoa's situation is different because they rely almost entirely on the production of a single good, so it's easy to exploit them. Doesn't mean the government should just stand by and let it happen.

Like I said, capitalism works IN THEORY, but without restrictions and regulations in practice, it ends in disaster.
  • #773,417
  • Mar 18, 2013 11:37am Mar 18, 2013 11:37am
Quoting Firstboss
The Greeks are a different story - it is traditionally a corrupt economy and corrupt society (also your native Romania, and my native Russia).
The strongest EU economies are doing great. The people aren't overworked, they live balanced and fulfilling lives.
The society wins by having less aggression, cheaper healthcare burden, much less police and prison spending.
The burgers in the Netherlands cost roughly the same as in the USA - McDonalds even has a 1-euro menu.
Yeah. That's exactly the description you could get for Greece before it blew up. They just hid their debts off balance sheet to make themselves look sustainable- great tourism industry, everybody has a job etc. Then one day surprise ! Then we are told spain, italy, portugal are different- great solid economies. Wait a bit and we find out different and those places get great depression levels of unemployment. The same scenario is coming to France soon. Bet on it.
  • #773,418
  • Mar 18, 2013 11:41am Mar 18, 2013 11:41am
Quoting SpacyTrader
Nice call there. Given I expect to log this pig soonish I would expect it to drop for now. Either way dont care much about the chop.
yeah.. it might sit and crap its pants for the next 2 hours..
  • #773,419
  • Mar 18, 2013 11:43am Mar 18, 2013 11:43am
When the top is one like now at 1.2995 i think cant go down before ánother touch .... somehwere around 1.2990 What did you think about it?
  • #773,420
  • Mar 18, 2013 11:44am Mar 18, 2013 11:44am
Quoting SpacyTrader
Ok they'll have to overcome that as was the case until now. Bottom line oil and gas at that point will no longer be cheaper in the US. The chinese will only have the shipping costs going against them which is not much of an advantage: http://www.petrostrategies.org/Learn...ipping%20Costs
raw material from the u.s. then the finished product back to the u.s. 2 trips? good luck with the fisherman when they kill all the fish heating the stuff with sea water.. we pay 3-4 bucks for ng... its about 18 last i checked in japan... that's 450-600% more for energy... the highest cost in manufacturing.. good luck with that.. especially when s. Korea, Vietnam or Indonesia will do it cheaper then China.
those who can, do. those who cant, talk about those who can
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