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  • #772,821
  • Mar 17, 2013 9:46pm Mar 17, 2013 9:46pm
Quoting KillerWhale
With Demo, you don't feel the losses.
I can double my account with a demo in 1 week or less.
Try to do that with a real live account.
Nothing wrong with demo to wrap your head around trading. But once you did, move on to real money.
Not all sins are created equal
  • #772,822
  • Mar 17, 2013 9:47pm Mar 17, 2013 9:47pm
Quoting EuroTraderJD
With over 1100 wins and 9 losses since 10/2011 I am doing something right. If you use precise MM you can survive a lot of bad entries related to indos. Yes I use REAL money and not a demo.

What have you figured out?
I've figured out that no computer software is ever going to make a lifetime trader out of someone. Keep laughing, joke will be on you.

Quoting EuroTraderJD
AMEN nothing like having skin in the game to get excellence from yourself.

To me Demo = jackin* of* vs real sex with a woman
And very much like real sex with a woman, if you don't know what you're doing you might just end up with some nasty consequences. Demo is very useful when you don't have a working strategy yet. When you have a strategy you are confident in, only then has the demo outlived its usefulness.
  • #772,823
  • Mar 17, 2013 9:50pm Mar 17, 2013 9:50pm
why market open with huge gap any body can explain why too much gap down ? what is main reason and you think this trend will continuous and down trend for eu and ej ? and what is target for ej today ?
  • #772,824
  • Mar 17, 2013 9:51pm Mar 17, 2013 9:51pm
Quoting KillerWhale
With Demo, you don't feel the losses.
I can double my account with a demo in 1 week or less.
Try to do that with a real live account.
I think you are joking and if so I am laughing with you.

If you are serious than i can only think of a saying I heard.
"There are old traders and there are bold traders but no old bold traders"

Trying to double your account in a week is insanity or there is a fortune teller with a time machine working with that type of trader.

My philosophy is its a walk to wealth not a race to ruin (riches).

Demos are good for testing trading plans but like being weened from Mommies tit you must cut your teeth on real meat (trading live)
Trade smaller than rational because the market is irrational...
  • #772,825
  • Mar 17, 2013 9:51pm Mar 17, 2013 9:51pm

- When you do NOT have enough experience, you have enough money. When you have enough experience you may NOT have enough money! First experience with DEMO!

Quoting Jay Walker
Nothing wrong with demo to wrap your head around trading. But once you did, move on to real money.
  • #772,826
  • Mar 17, 2013 9:53pm Mar 17, 2013 9:53pm
Quoting fahadzaman66
why market open with huge gap any body can explain why too much gap down ? what is main reason and you think this trend will continuous and down trend for eu and ej ? and what is target for ej today ?
Cyprus. Speaking of which, a Reuters article is citing a leak that is claiming that they want to shift the percentages around with 100k+ taking a 12.5% hit and 3% below. Not exactly sure what that's supposed to change...

Cyprus discussing changes in bank tax levy: source
  • #772,827
  • Mar 17, 2013 9:54pm Mar 17, 2013 9:54pm
Quoting Kanzler
I've figured out that no computer software is ever going to make a lifetime trader out of someone. Keep laughing, joke will be on you.



And very much like real sex with a woman, if you don't know what you're doing you might just end up with some nasty consequences. Demo is very useful when you don't have a working strategy yet. When you have a strategy you are confident in, only then has the demo outlived its usefulness.
Hey pay attention I use a software program I wrote to manage MM. I guess you have superior intelligence to automatically calc the optimum position size in real time plus considering the price satuation factor if you know what that is.

Traders like you have mocked me in the past only to see their accounts blown up or whine about consistant losses.

Hey you didnt answer my question... What is your MM?
Trade smaller than rational because the market is irrational...
  • #772,828
  • Mar 17, 2013 9:54pm Mar 17, 2013 9:54pm
Quoting fahadzaman66
why market open with huge gap any body can explain why too much gap down ? what is main reason and you think this trend will continuous and down trend for eu and ej ? and what is target for ej today ?
we had few dozen post , may you should read all post from Saturday
Mohan
  • #772,829
  • Mar 17, 2013 9:54pm Mar 17, 2013 9:54pm
Quoting stevewalker

- When you do NOT have enough experience, you have enough money. When you have enough experience you may NOT have enough money! First experience with DEMO!
+ 1.5! Good day all!
  • #772,830
  • Mar 17, 2013 9:58pm Mar 17, 2013 9:58pm
Quoting EuroTraderJD
Hey pay attention I use a software program I wrote to manage MM. I guess you have superior intelligence to automatically calc the optimum position size in real time plus considering the price satuation factor if you know what that is.

Traders like you have mocked me in the past only to see their accounts blown up or whine about consistant losses.

Hey you didnt answer my question... What is your MM?
Oh so you're a money management kind of guy. Into game theory perhaps? Martingale? That would explain the number of wins and losses you have. My "optimal position size" is the traditional percentage of my capital I'm willing to risk on any single trade...1%. I don't categorize my trades by any having a "higher likelyhood" so there's no reason to alter it. Excel does an excellent job of doing all the calculations I need it to do.
  • #772,831
  • Mar 17, 2013 9:58pm Mar 17, 2013 9:58pm
Quoting EuroTraderJD
Hey pay attention I use a software program I wrote to manage MM. I guess you have superior intelligence to automatically calc the optimum position size in real time plus considering the price satuation factor if you know what that is.

Traders like you have mocked me in the past only to see their accounts blown up or whine about consistant losses.

Hey you didnt answer my question... What is your MM?
with both respect, attach te , save talks, less arguing. We are just curious, u can close off those important infos. or remove te within 1-2 hours. i don't doubt that going long and short is workable, i have seen some but those are not long and short from same point, they are at least 100 pips apart and balance in green. while having a green one, they hedge it , sometimes quite complex. So i rather stick with a trading plan and a stop loss.
  • #772,832
  • Mar 17, 2013 9:58pm Mar 17, 2013 9:58pm
any trader has even 1/2 brain should understand how EuroTraderJD trades. if any still does not, then he/she should check his/her brain if its still there.

EuroTraderJD,
dont be the tonights ping pong ball here.
friendly advise


Quoting EuroTraderJD
Hey pay attention I use a software program I wrote to manage MM. I guess you have superior intelligence to automatically calc the optimum position size in real time plus considering the price satuation factor if you know what that is.

Traders like you have mocked me in the past only to see their accounts blown up or whine about consistant losses.

Hey you didnt answer my question... What is your MM?
  • #772,833
  • Mar 17, 2013 9:58pm Mar 17, 2013 9:58pm
Quoting EuroTraderJD
I think you are joking and if so I am laughing with you.

If you are serious than i can only think of a saying I heard.
"There are old traders and there are bold traders but no old bold traders"

Trying to double your account in a week is insanity or there is a fortune teller with a time machine working with that type of trader.

My philosophy is its a walk to wealth not a race to ruin (riches).

Demos are good for testing trading plans but like being weened from Mommies tit you must cut your teeth on real meat (trading live)
Believe it or not, I have tried to double my account and I wanted to know how much time it would take.
Well I opened a sub account in Oanda with $1.00 in it.
28 hours later my balance was $2.01
So YES it can be done.
New voice message: Why are you calling me? If I need you, I'll call you!
  • #772,834
  • Mar 17, 2013 9:59pm Mar 17, 2013 9:59pm
Like I said I learned from those who worked with the banksters and I paid attention to what they said. My trading is no different than that why reinvent the wheel?

I have also said my stragety isnt for everyone but it works for me and the banksters. If you disagree then argue with the big boys I am just following their example.

If you want to succeed follow those who are successful
Trade smaller than rational because the market is irrational...
  • #772,835
  • Mar 17, 2013 9:59pm Mar 17, 2013 9:59pm
Quoting stevewalker

- When you do NOT have enough experience, you have enough money. When you have enough experience you may NOT have enough money! First experience with DEMO!
and make sure demo money should be less than amount that planed capital
Mohan
  • #772,836
  • Mar 17, 2013 10:01pm Mar 17, 2013 10:01pm
Quoting EuroTraderJD
Like I said I learned from those who worked with the banksters and I paid attention to what they said. My trading is no different than that why reinvent the wheel?

I have also said my stragety isnt for everyone but it works for me and the banksters. If you disagree then argue with the big boys I am just following their example.

If you want to succeed follow those who are successful
I think you're just full of shit.
  • #772,837
  • Mar 17, 2013 10:02pm Mar 17, 2013 10:02pm
Quoting EuroTraderJD
With over 1100 wins and 9 losses since 10/2011 I am doing something right. If you use precise MM you can survive a lot of bad entries related to indos. Yes I use REAL money and not a demo.

What have you figured out?
What I've figured out is you trade very small positions without a stop loss. I've also figured out you go through huge periods of time in drawdown - all the while paying swap. I've figured out that you cannot compound your profit because you don't have any realized profits to compound since you are almost always in drawdown and your margin is tied up. And when you are not in draw down, which is almost never, you're position sizes are too small to bring any profits of significance. I've figured out that you are more like an investor that is holding a long time to make very little when factoring in opportunity cost. Here's a tip for you... you are better off buying fixed income products (ie cds, bonds, annuities, etc). That way you don't have to spend any time or electricity by going on the computer and clicking buy or sell. Lastly, I've figured out you have a huge ego and that you believe you are a great trader (in your mind). Now before you lash back at me, remember, don't be upset at me. It is you that asked what we figured out. You gave us all the clues to putting together what you're about. You gave it away with "1100 wins and 9 losses".
  • #772,838
  • Mar 17, 2013 10:03pm Mar 17, 2013 10:03pm
Quoting KillerWhale
Believe it or not, I have tried to double my account and I wanted to know how much time it would take.
Well I opened a sub account in Oanda with $1.00 in it.
28 hours later my balance was $2.01
So YES it can be done.
I am impressed with $1 USD gain sincerly I am. Let me know when you can do this week after week.

On 10/18/2011 I started with $67 and now my account is over $22K USD.

Not doubling every week but that is OK I am in it for the long haul.

Again for the 3rd time what is you MM? You had the balls to question mine with nothing to counter. GL on your trading.
Trade smaller than rational because the market is irrational...
  • #772,839
  • Mar 17, 2013 10:05pm Mar 17, 2013 10:05pm
Quoting 2+2=4ex
What I've figured out is you trade very small positions without a stop loss. I've also figured out you go through huge periods of time in drawdown - all the while paying swap. I've figured out that you cannot compound your profit because you don't have any realized profits to compound since you are almost always in drawdown and your margin is tied up. And when you are not in draw down, which is almost never, you're position sizes are too small to bring any profits of significance. I've figured out that you are more like an investor that is...
Good story but WRONG. On 10/18/2011 I started with $67 and now my account is over $22K USD.

Its not about getting in and out solely but MM.

We will have to agree to disagree. You do what you do best and I will continue making pips. It is amazing how many in this forum are not open to new ideas and only the same old same old
Trade smaller than rational because the market is irrational...
  • #772,840
  • Mar 17, 2013 10:05pm Mar 17, 2013 10:05pm
Quoting 2+2=4ex
You gave it away with "1100 wins and 9 losses".
yep. there is no such thing without sitting through perpetual DDs, otherwise the PHDs would have figure this out long time ago..
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