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  • #521
  • Jun 17, 2012 6:33am Jun 17, 2012 6:33am
Hello
Attachment 2 experts
One index fpi works
And a second random function
FBI.mq4 indcator is the path of indicators
BUY BUY SELL
or SELL SELL BUY

EUR/CHF CHF/JPY EUR/JPY

GBP/CHF CHF/JPY GBP/JPY

USD/CHF CHF/JPY USD/JPY

EUR/GBP GBP/CHF EUR/CHF

EUR/USD USD/CHF EUR/CHF

EUR/GBP GBP/JPY EUR/JPY

EUR/GBP GBP/USD EUR/USD

EUR/USD USD/JPY EUR/JPY

GBP/USD USD/CHF GBP/CHF

GBP/USD USD/JPY GBP/JPY
Attached File(s)
File Type: ex4 SULTAN FPI_EA_v3.ex4   7 KB | 1,134 downloads
File Type: ex4 SULTANEA_v3.ex4   6 KB | 1,030 downloads
File Type: mq4 FPI.mq4   2 KB | 1,525 downloads
  • #522
  • Jun 17, 2012 1:48pm Jun 17, 2012 1:48pm
Do you have some picture of such EA and Config?

How to use the FPI ?
Thanks!



Quoting sultan2
Hello
Attachment 2 experts
One index fpi works
And a second random function
FBI.mq4 indcator is the path of indicators
BUY BUY SELL
or SELL SELL BUY

EUR/CHF CHF/JPY EUR/JPY

GBP/CHF CHF/JPY GBP/JPY

USD/CHF CHF/JPY USD/JPY

EUR/GBP GBP/CHF EUR/CHF

EUR/USD USD/CHF EUR/CHF

EUR/GBP GBP/JPY EUR/JPY

EUR/GBP GBP/USD EUR/USD

EUR/USD USD/JPY EUR/JPY

GBP/USD USD/CHF GBP/CHF

GBP/USD USD/JPY GBP/JPY
  • #523
  • Jun 17, 2012 1:53pm Jun 17, 2012 1:53pm
Quoting sultan2
Hello
Attachment 2 experts
One index fpi works
And a second random function
FBI.mq4 indcator is the path of indicators
BUY BUY SELL
or SELL SELL BUY

EUR/CHF CHF/JPY EUR/JPY

GBP/CHF CHF/JPY GBP/JPY

USD/CHF CHF/JPY USD/JPY

EUR/GBP GBP/CHF EUR/CHF

EUR/USD USD/CHF EUR/CHF

EUR/GBP GBP/JPY EUR/JPY

EUR/GBP GBP/USD EUR/USD

EUR/USD USD/JPY EUR/JPY

GBP/USD USD/CHF GBP/CHF

GBP/USD USD/JPY GBP/JPY

FPI is really tough on Mt4 esp since feeds are filtered and any arb's broker's will try to take advantage of before you. You really need institutional price feeds and then your big competitors are still banks who are arb'ing off each other before you can. You might get a few arb's a day though during volatility if u can get in, but ur never gauranteed to get ur second and third leg thru. If only there is a fill or kill order for multiple currency pairs at once, I'd be very interested if this existed somewhere.

Also does ur system trade the pairs with same lot size? If so that's not FPI... your still exposed.
  • #524
  • Edited 5:43pm Jun 17, 2012 5:18pm | Edited 5:43pm
Quoting AlbertoFX
Do you have some picture of such EA and Config?

How to use the FPI ?
Thanks!
Expert FBI is inserted in the path of experts
FBI index is inserted in the path of indicators
After the piece is withdrawn expert on the trading platform

(Euro dollars) * (dollar, yen) * 1 / (euro yen) is less than one
(1.43047 * 80,012) / 114,404 = 0.98104
Normal = 1 when less than one expert opens the deals to profit-taking
----------------------------------------------------
Facility also does the same job expert FBI
But the reverse currency
Expert puts buy / sell / sell
and sell / buy / buy
Each separate group earns a profit
Closes and puts the other new
Example
EUR / JPY Buy
CHF / JPY sell
EUR / CHF sell

EUR/JPY CHF/JPY EUR/CHF
GBP/JPY CHF/JPY GBP/CHF
USD/JPY CHF/JPY USD/CHF
EUR/CHF GBP/CHF EUR/GBP
EUR/CHF USD/CHF EUR/USD
EUR/JPY GBP/JPY EUR/GBP
EUR/USD GBP/USD EUR/GBP
EUR/JPY USD/JPY EUR/USD
GBP/CHF USD/CHF GBP/USD
GBP/JPY USD/JPY GBP/USD
Attached File(s)
File Type: ex4 SULTAN EA v9.ex4   10 KB | 1,208 downloads
  • #525
  • Jun 18, 2012 3:26pm Jun 18, 2012 3:26pm
Thanks for your work sultan2! Much appreciated - testing now
  • #526
  • Jun 26, 2012 3:56pm Jun 26, 2012 3:56pm
Currency movements change these days and I think the main reason for this is also the world economy is changing and this what I think needs new strategies and new ideas Xbertat compatible with the current situation of currencies))
You can not adjust the movement of currencies interrelated because the interdependence is not permanent and is not accurate
Success
  • #527
  • Edited 11:43pm Jun 26, 2012 10:27pm | Edited 11:43pm
Here is the only solution and security
Each winning group closes and opens new

You must choose the following pairs
And not participate in the first
Just choose from here
Buy / sell /sell
Example
EUR / JPY Buy
CHF / JPY sell
EUR / CHF sell
and
EUR / JPY sell
CHF / JPY Buy
EUR / CHF Buy


EUR/JPY CHF/JPY EUR/CHF
GBP/JPY CHF/JPY GBP/CHF
USD/JPY CHF/JPY USD/CHF
EUR/CHF GBP/CHF EUR/GBP
EUR/CHF USD/CHF EUR/USD
EUR/JPY GBP/JPY EUR/GBP
EUR/USD GBP/USD EUR/GBP
EUR/JPY USD/JPY EUR/USD
GBP/CHF USD/CHF GBP/USD
GBP/JPY USD/JPY GBP/USD
Attached File(s)
File Type: ex4 SULTAN V7.ex4   9 KB | 1,228 downloads
  • #528
  • Jun 30, 2012 8:53am Jun 30, 2012 8:53am
demo = 1 week
pair = EU/GU/EG
balance = 5000

research until 1 month
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  • #529
  • Edited 11:45pm Jun 30, 2012 11:16pm | Edited 11:45pm
Quoting okitagaya
demo = 1 week
pair = EU/GU/EG
balance = 5000

research until 1 month
Good luck
Excellent profits
Size of the entry you have a large
Need to manage capital
Why are not taken to enter
Lot size 0.05 or $ 1
You are working on more than one pairs 3 pairs, not only must be the size of a small lot
This is a very big if you are working on other pairs at the same time
Lot 1 only states with only one set
Do not enter another
If you want other countries must reduce the size of the lot
  • #530
  • Jul 5, 2012 4:39am Jul 5, 2012 4:39am
Quoting sultan2
Here is the only solution and security
Each winning group closes and opens new

You must choose the following pairs
And not participate in the first
Just choose from here
Buy / sell /sell
Example
EUR / JPY Buy
CHF / JPY sell
EUR / CHF sell
and
EUR / JPY sell
CHF / JPY Buy
EUR / CHF Buy


EUR/JPY CHF/JPY EUR/CHF
GBP/JPY CHF/JPY GBP/CHF
USD/JPY CHF/JPY USD/CHF
EUR/CHF GBP/CHF EUR/GBP
EUR/CHF USD/CHF EUR/USD
EUR/JPY GBP/JPY EUR/GBP
EUR/USD GBP/USD EUR/GBP
EUR/JPY USD/JPY EUR/USD
GBP/CHF USD/CHF GBP/USD
GBP/JPY USD/JPY GBP/USD
Hello,

does your EA include negative/positive swap in profit calculation (5 pip default)? it would be great if you could include this, so trades could be opened for few days and still be closed in positive.
  • #531
  • Jul 6, 2012 11:56pm Jul 6, 2012 11:56pm
Quoting sultan2
Good luck
Excellent profits
Size of the entry you have a large
Need to manage capital
Why are not taken to enter
Lot size 0.05 or $ 1
You are working on more than one pairs 3 pairs, not only must be the size of a small lot
This is a very big if you are working on other pairs at the same time
Lot 1 only states with only one set
Do not enter another
If you want other countries must reduce the size of the lot
thanks for sharing. I just few question for you: how long do you use this strategy? and how much max DD do you ever have? is that more saver than 2 pairs hedging? thanks for your information. best regards
  • #532
  • Jul 9, 2012 8:29am Jul 9, 2012 8:29am
Since I'm subscribe to this thread I use to get a very slow rethum of news
from it.

I want to tell you that a year ago I wrote a great EA based on this model and it did quit good results till... YES (as you feel) the cross pairs of the tree pairs went wildly upterd or downtrend, and I loos money.

I do not belive this model and look for new way of thinking.

I sugest you to think again about martingale method, but with a new wat of thinking. Yes, I works.

Y.
  • #533
  • Jul 15, 2012 1:01pm Jul 15, 2012 1:01pm
Quoting crossy
since i'm subscribe to this thread i use to get a very slow rethum of news
from it.

I want to tell you that a year ago i wrote a great ea based on this model and it did quit good results till... Yes (as you feel) the cross pairs of the tree pairs went wildly upterd or downtrend, and i loos money.

I do not belive this model and look for new way of thinking.

I sugest you to think again about martingale method, but with a new wat of thinking. Yes, i works.

Y.
could you pls give even hint, so that we can explore much about the thing you are trying to tell.
  • #534
  • Sep 5, 2012 8:42am Sep 5, 2012 8:42am
Can i execute ssb and bbs at same time
and if 1 position is profitable then close waiting for other position until obtain profit
  • #535
  • Edited 7:29pm Nov 1, 2012 6:50pm | Edited 7:29pm
Quoting sultan2
Here is the only solution and security
Each winning group closes and opens new

You must choose the following pairs
And not participate in the first
Just choose from here
Buy / sell /sell
Example
EUR / JPY Buy
CHF / JPY sell
EUR / CHF sell
and
EUR / JPY sell
CHF / JPY Buy
EUR / CHF Buy


EUR/JPY CHF/JPY EUR/CHF
GBP/JPY CHF/JPY GBP/CHF
USD/JPY CHF/JPY USD/CHF
EUR/CHF GBP/CHF EUR/GBP
EUR/CHF USD/CHF EUR/USD
EUR/JPY GBP/JPY EUR/GBP
EUR/USD GBP/USD EUR/GBP
EUR/JPY USD/JPY EUR/USD
GBP/CHF USD/CHF GBP/USD
GBP/JPY...
I keep getting the error message code 4109 (Which means trade is not allowed).

USING: SULTAN V7.ex4 attached on live GBPUSD chart on demo acount alpari.

*******
i am also getting on bactest: SULTANEA_v3 EURGBPiam,M15: unknown symbol name GBPCHFiam for OrderSend function
and SULTANEA_v3 EURGBPiam,M15: OrderSend error 4106

symbols name of my broker: EURGBPiam,GBPUSDiam,GBPCHFiam.
  • #536
  • Dec 14, 2012 10:15am Dec 14, 2012 10:15am
Quoting mahanxiong
I‘m sorry to say this but i see no meaning in trying this kind of system.
say
GBPUSD = Buy
USDCHF = Buy
GBPCHF = Sell
all 1 lot,use the price now
frist,you buy 1 lot GBPUSD means you buy 100K gbp spend 162K usd
than,you buy 1 lot usdchf means you buy 100K usd spend 91K chf
finally,you sell 1 lot gbpchf means you sell 100K gbp and get 147K chf

you see you buy 100K gbp and than sell 100K gbp,(so actually you has nothing to do with gbp);you buy 100K and you spend 162K usd;you spend 91K chf and you get 147K chf.

so if you add this all,you actually...
No one is paying attention to this reply by mahanxiong or answering his question. It should be addressed.
  • #537
  • Dec 15, 2012 10:24am Dec 15, 2012 10:24am
Quoting mahanxiong
I‘m sorry to say this but i see no meaning in trying this kind of system.
say
GBPUSD = Buy
USDCHF = Buy
GBPCHF = Sell
all 1 lot,use the price now
frist,you buy 1 lot GBPUSD means you buy 100K gbp spend 162K usd
than,you buy 1 lot usdchf means you buy 100K usd spend 91K chf
finally,you sell 1 lot gbpchf means you sell 100K gbp and get 147K chf

you see you buy 100K gbp and than sell 100K gbp,(so actually you has nothing to do with gbp);you buy 100K and you spend 162K usd;you spend 91K chf and you get 147K chf.

so if you add this all,you actually...
Yes, you are rigth.

The correct hedge should be as you trade with the same real quantity of money, NOT with the same lot size.

Y.
  • #538
  • Dec 18, 2012 3:09am Dec 18, 2012 3:09am
Any one using this with success? Which 3 pairs?
My Pips Stolen By The Broker
  • #539
  • Mar 15, 2013 8:22pm Mar 15, 2013 8:22pm
Has anyone used the EA or done it manually?
  • #540
  • Mar 16, 2013 4:01pm Mar 16, 2013 4:01pm
So... I read the first 20 or so pages of this thread and then skipped to the end so I could ask some questions.

The concept seems (almost) sound and I'm willing to invest some time in it.

The concsensus (I think) is that the concept has merit when the spreads are low.

I'm happy to write an EA that will do the following:

1. Trade both BBS and SSB strategies concurently in the same account with a single EA.
2. Wait for the combined spreads to be within so many pips (parameter).
3. Quickly execute one strategy with a unique magic number.
4. Test again for spreads being acceptable.
5. Execute the other strategy with a unique magic number.
6. Monitor both strategies and quit either one if the profit level for that strategy (only) is so mahy pips (parameter).
7. Once the trades for one of the strategies have been closed, start monitoring again for the spread being within so many pips.
8. Complete auto pilot... goes forever.
9. The only time that the EA will be flat or only have one strategy on the go is when spreads are wider than acceptable.

I assume that nobody has coded this yet?

Is there interest in trying this?

Thoughts on how to make it better?

It will take about 20 minutes to code and a couple hours to test after the markets open.

Cheers
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