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  • #44,061
  • Feb 14, 2013 9:26am Feb 14, 2013 9:26am
please.. somebody can upload the SONICR PVA?
  • #44,062
  • Feb 14, 2013 9:27am Feb 14, 2013 9:27am
GU Comment:

Looks like US MMs went to work on this one, torpedoing price and gobbling up the giblets!
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  • #44,063
  • Feb 14, 2013 9:32am Feb 14, 2013 9:32am
Quoting luisermers
please.. somebody can upload the SONICR PVA?
Being field tested. Not yet released. Last released (post 1, TAH link) is very, very similar.
  • #44,064
  • Feb 14, 2013 9:32am Feb 14, 2013 9:32am
Quoting traderathome
EU Comment:

High volume popping price up to top of channel and then driving price down out of channel..... Looks like US MMs felt they needed more shorts before allowing this to go lower. We'll see. Very tenuous situation, but still there is time for more PA today.

For now, on M15, H1 and H4 the Dragon is angled down, the Trend Line is angled down, the Dragon is below the Trend Line and PA is below both. What more could a bear want? .....more time to load up?
Selling may be overdone for now..



Sonic
  • #44,065
  • Edited 9:58am Feb 14, 2013 9:44am | Edited 9:58am
GU: Pending entry long. Not a good wave at all, but PA, SR and price-volume considerations still indicate potential for a long trade. TP is tentative because it is so late in the day.

Edit: Entry made. SL seems reasonable, but considering the torpedo sent out by US MMs already, SL will be mental until after the boat sails.
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  • #44,066
  • Feb 14, 2013 10:23am Feb 14, 2013 10:23am
Quoting traderathome
GU: Pending entry long. Not a good wave at all, but PA, SR and price-volume considerations still indicate potential for a long trade. TP is tentative because it is so late in the day.

Edit: Entry made. SL seems reasonable, but considering the torpedo sent out by US MMs already, SL will be mental until after the boat sails.
Sir.. GU look dangerously bullish..

Sonic
  • #44,067
  • Feb 14, 2013 10:33am Feb 14, 2013 10:33am
Quoting sonicdeejay
Sir.. GU look dangerously bullish..

Sonic
about time... i am getting ready for GU bull.
  • #44,068
  • Feb 14, 2013 10:33am Feb 14, 2013 10:33am
Quoting sonicdeejay
Sir.. GU look dangerously bullish..

Sonic
Watching MMs wack the price once again, down to whole number area. Waiting to see if higher volumes follow.....
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  • #44,069
  • Feb 14, 2013 10:52am Feb 14, 2013 10:52am
Quoting traderathome
Watching MMs wack the price once again, down to whole number area. Waiting to see if higher volumes follow.....
1.553x..seems to have topping vol.. Careful..

Sonic
  • #44,070
  • Feb 14, 2013 11:17am Feb 14, 2013 11:17am
Quoting traderathome
Watching MMs wack the price once again, down to whole number area. Waiting to see if higher volumes follow.....
GU:

Yep, MMs just manipulating price to add longs, imho. See, they are astute enough to take price below a likely TL so they can hit more long SLs. And see the increase in volume as they do this! With the LS closed, the MMs have less volume from others to absorb, so it is now very easy for them to take price where they want it in order to gather in more longs.

This is exactly why I kept my SL mental.
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  • #44,071
  • Edited 12:00pm Feb 14, 2013 11:33am | Edited 12:00pm
GU Comment:

MMs love it when the LS closes and they don't have to "compete" with so much of the trading of others in order to carry off their price manipulations to help them build a good position. This looks like a good example of the MMs manipulating prices down at the tail end of the LS to coax greedy shorts into the market and absorb them (go long) as they keep the price dropping, as well as hitting the SLs on longs in the process in order to create liquidy for the MMs pending long orders, which were probably already sitting at lower prices. Then, in the area of attained lows and after the LS has closed, the MMs take their time further scouring to build their long position below the whole number, and without a lot of competition from others for whatever liquidity can be found down there to get long orders filled.
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  • #44,072
  • Feb 14, 2013 12:12pm Feb 14, 2013 12:12pm
Quoting traderathome
GU Comment:

MMs love it when the LS closes and they don't have to "compete" with so much of the trading of others in order to carry off their price manipulations to help them build a good position. This looks like a good example of the MMs manipulating prices down at the tail end of the LS to coax greedy shorts into the market and absorb them (go long) as they keep the price dropping, as well as hitting the SLs on longs in the process in order to create liquidy for the MMs pending long orders, which were probably already sitting at lower prices....
GU Comment:

Still not convinced? Look, MMs don't mount a "sell-off" in a low activity market which would naturally lower the prices on themselves as they attempted to get the highest prices as they sold off!

This is Accumulation, and taking the price right to previous lows while doing it. Maybe further....
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  • #44,073
  • Feb 14, 2013 2:46pm Feb 14, 2013 2:46pm
Quoting traderathome
GU Comment:

Still not convinced? Look, MMs don't mount a "sell-off" in a low activity market which would naturally lower the prices on themselves as they attempted to get the highest prices as they sold off!

This is Accumulation, and taking the price right to previous lows while doing it. Maybe further....
GU Comment:

In the words of Master Sonicdeejay,.......

......."Told 'cha!"
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  • #44,074
  • Feb 14, 2013 2:57pm Feb 14, 2013 2:57pm
Quoting traderathome
GU: Pending entry long. Not a good wave at all, but PA, SR and price-volume considerations still indicate potential for a long trade. TP is tentative because it is so late in the day.

Edit: Entry made. SL seems reasonable, but considering the torpedo sent out by US MMs already, SL will be mental until after the boat sails.
GU: M5 entry, long #2. Prepared to make Scout long entry if Asian/FO/LO MMs take price back down.
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  • #44,075
  • Feb 14, 2013 3:05pm Feb 14, 2013 3:05pm
AU Comment:

Looks to me like the MMs went "double dipping" on this one, too.
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  • #44,076
  • Feb 14, 2013 3:10pm Feb 14, 2013 3:10pm
Quoting traderathome
EU Comment:

And, why not a 250+ pips bear swing? What is to keep the MMs from doing it? After all, if the drop is about to stop and next is to be some upside, why then not drop it more. That would create even more upside to profit from later. Anyway TLs (previous EU posts) said the 1.3250 area could be a target, and so far nothing has changed.

We can view and wait and see how it comes out.
EU Comment:

And this one? Still, the bear swing might not be over with. Maybe MMs just holding off the final drop until they can coax the price up a bit more, and be adding more shorts all the way. There is still all of Friday to go! And this way, the last drop becomes more like 125+, or 150+ pips of profit than just 100+ pips of profit.
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  • #44,077
  • Feb 14, 2013 6:44pm Feb 14, 2013 6:44pm
Quoting traderathome
AU Comment:

Looks to me like the MMs went "double dipping" on this one, too.
Maybe a descent channel.

L.
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  • #44,078
  • Feb 14, 2013 6:46pm Feb 14, 2013 6:46pm
Quoting jaau
Maybe a descent channel.

L.
Image fix.

L.
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  • #44,079
  • Edited 7:32pm Feb 14, 2013 7:15pm | Edited 7:32pm
Quoting jaau
Maybe a descent channel. L.
Maybe, but so what? What is your point? I don't think your channel is properly drawn, either.

What I see on H4 is a strong bounce followed by increasing H/Ls as MMs accumulate for the next run higher, which would be a break of the TL and possibly a run at least up to RDH around the whole number 1.0400, which is the next natural SR area. That might be all for today, with maybe more coming next week.

So, if you are going to post to point out a "feature" you see on your chart (such as your channel), how about also commenting on what significance you think it has. Ok? Otherwise, there is no point in posting. Right?

-tah
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  • #44,080
  • Feb 14, 2013 7:43pm Feb 14, 2013 7:43pm
GU Comment:

MMs have price back above whole number. With the US MMs torpedoing the price and the price having been kept low all this time since, all segments of the market have now had their opportunity to accumulate below the whole number, so there is no reason left to keep holding the price down. It could start going up at any time. M15/M30 already have a good wave.....
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