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  • #27,281
  • Feb 7, 2013 9:14pm Feb 7, 2013 9:14pm
Looks like AUDUSD will stay below 1.03 until Chinese data is released.

Im expecting 1.015,1.019,1.02 before reversal
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  • #27,282
  • Feb 7, 2013 9:17pm Feb 7, 2013 9:17pm
Quoting arcticwolf
Here you go something pick you up (you can even buy in a can now)
woohoo
unopened..
cheers to that!
  • #27,283
  • Feb 7, 2013 9:17pm Feb 7, 2013 9:17pm
Quoting GnarlyPips
The way you said it is that the universe respects an imaginary description. "Fib sequence is how the universe is put together" is not true, because before humans, there was no "fibonacci". We describe the universe with fib numbers, yet, but the universe was there before the idea of fib numbers.



This is just blatantly wrong.
I would say it is right. It was there all along and we finally "discovered" it.

Can not we agree there are law of nature? Is not physics in pursuit of the universal law that governs all?

Really has nothing to do with right or wrong, just what is my friend.
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  • #27,284
  • Feb 7, 2013 9:25pm Feb 7, 2013 9:25pm
Quoting Mr. Scott
I would say it is right. It was there all along and we finally "discovered" it.

Can not we agree there are law of nature? Is not physics in pursuit of the universal law that governs all?

Really has nothing to do with right or wrong, just what is my friend.
You're literally saying that the numbers 3 and 5 are the most efficient numbers in the universe?
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  • #27,285
  • Feb 7, 2013 9:44pm Feb 7, 2013 9:44pm
Quoting arcticwolf
Here you go something pick you up (you can even buy in a can now)
I love that drink! Haha
  • #27,286
  • Feb 7, 2013 9:49pm Feb 7, 2013 9:49pm
Quoting Mr. Scott
I would say it is right. It was there all along and we finally "discovered" it.

Can not we agree there are law of nature? Is not physics in pursuit of the universal law that governs all?

Really has nothing to do with right or wrong, just what is my friend.
We're going totally off course here. I do think the fib sequence may have some reason for it's presence in nature - efficiency or what not. I just don't believe it has much (if anything) to do with trading.
  • #27,287
  • Feb 7, 2013 9:54pm Feb 7, 2013 9:54pm
Quoting 2+2=4ex
We're going totally off course here. I do think the fib sequence may have some reason for it's presence in nature - efficiency or what not. I just don't believe it has much (if anything) to do with trading.
A leaf grows to maximize sunlight and minimize shade.
A trader trades to maximize profit and minimize loss.

They are doing the same thing, no? I think so.
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  • #27,288
  • Feb 7, 2013 9:59pm Feb 7, 2013 9:59pm
Quoting GnarlyPips
You're literally saying that the numbers 3 and 5 are the most efficient numbers in the universe?
He's literally saying this perhaps only insofar as it concerns things in the universe that flow in ebbs and rises like those known with such cosmic nomenclature as "greenback" and "cable".
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  • #27,289
  • Feb 7, 2013 10:06pm Feb 7, 2013 10:06pm
Quoting GnarlyPips
A leaf grows to maximize sunlight and minimize shade.
A trader trades to maximize profit and minimize loss.

They are doing the same thing, no? I think so.
An original quote of yours, Gnarls?

Beautiful. Very Apt.
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  • #27,290
  • Feb 7, 2013 10:12pm Feb 7, 2013 10:12pm
Quoting GnarlyPips
You're literally saying that the numbers 3 and 5 are the most efficient numbers in the universe?
Yes exactly.

'It is the minimum requirement for, and therefore the most efficient method of, achieving both fluctuation and progress in linear movement. One wave does not allow fluctuation. The fewest subdivisions to create fluctuation is three waves. Three waves in both directions would not allow progress. To progress in one direction despite periods of regress, movements in that direction must be at least five waves, simply to cover more ground than the intervening three waves. While their could be more waves than that, the most efficient form of punctuated progress is 5-3, and nature typically follows the most efficient path." Frost and Prechter p.26
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  • #27,291
  • Feb 7, 2013 10:18pm Feb 7, 2013 10:18pm
Quoting HelloOz
Posted 4th Feb

broken??
http://www.forexfactory.com/attachme...1&d=1359759025
No. The channel has shifted again.
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  • #27,292
  • Feb 7, 2013 10:18pm Feb 7, 2013 10:18pm
Quoting GnarlyPips
A leaf grows to maximize sunlight and minimize shade.
A trader trades to maximize profit and minimize loss.

They are doing the same thing, no? I think so.
See this is where I fail to make a connection with this fibonnaci and trading thing. What the hell does a leaf's structure have to do with millions of humans participating in a market??? Maybe if all the humans were on the same page and trying to obtain the same objective it would form something symmetrical as a fibonacci sequence. But most everyone is "moving" in different directions. Corporations have exposure to hedge. Central Banks are trying to accomplish something else. Day traders have their own set of goals. What does any of it have to do with a leaf in a garden???!!!!
  • #27,293
  • Feb 7, 2013 10:25pm Feb 7, 2013 10:25pm
Quoting Mr. Scott
Yes exactly.

'It is the minimum requirement for, and therefore the most efficient method of, achieving both fluctuation and progress in linear movement. One wave does not allow fluctuation. The fewest subdivisions to create fluctuation is three waves. Three waves in both directions would not allow progress. To progress in one direction despite periods of regress, movements in that direction must be at least five waves, simply to cover more ground than the intervening three waves. While their could be more waves than that, the most efficient...
Okay that's fine and all. I won't disagree with any of the 5-3 is most efficient stuff. Mainly cause I'm not an engineer. But let me ask you this then... how do you differentiate between 5-3 and 5.35-3.53?

Or how about 5.3535-3.5353?

It goes on and on. So how do you know which wave you are on? Where does it end? Where does the next one start? And back to which wave is now starting? The more I think about it, the more I believe that EWP is just a humans way of trying to make sense of something too great to put in order for the human mind.

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  • #27,294
  • Feb 7, 2013 10:29pm Feb 7, 2013 10:29pm
Quoting 2+2=4ex
Okay that's fine and all. I won't disagree with any of the 5-3 is most efficient stuff. Mainly cause I'm not an engineer. But let me ask you this then... how do you differentiate between 5-3 and 5.35-3.53?

Or how about 5.3535-2.5353?

It goes on and on. So how do you know which wave you are on? Where does it end? Where does the next one start? And back to which wave is now starting? The more I think about it, the more I believe that EWP is just a humans way of trying to make sense of something too great to put in order for the human mind.

EDIT:...
happy 5000!

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  • #27,295
  • Feb 7, 2013 10:32pm Feb 7, 2013 10:32pm
Quoting surgeon
An original quote of yours, Gnarls?

Beautiful. Very Apt.
I guess you can call it an original quote, if you want, or you can just quote me! Ha. However, thanks!

Quote
See this is where I fail to make a connection with this fibonnaci and trading thing. What the hell does a leaf's structure have to do with millions of humans participating in a market??? Maybe if all the humans were on the same page and trying to obtain the same objective it would form something symmetrical as a fibonacci sequence. But most everyone is "moving" in different directions. Corporations have exposure to hedge. Central Banks are trying to accomplish something else. Day traders have their own set of goals. What does any of it...

Both plants and traders have hormones. Both try to do things as efficient as possible. However, the fib sequence can be seen as things trying to get as far away from each other as possible. Even water droplets dropping one at a time into a dish will move as far away from each other in sequence.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=14-NdQwKz9w
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  • #27,296
  • Feb 7, 2013 10:35pm Feb 7, 2013 10:35pm
Quoting 2+2=4ex
See this is where I fail to make a connection with this fibonnaci and trading thing. What the hell does a leaf's structure have to do with millions of humans participating in a market??? Maybe if all the humans were on the same page and trying to obtain the same objective it would form something symmetrical as a fibonacci sequence. But most everyone is "moving" in different directions. Corporations have exposure to hedge. Central Banks are trying to accomplish something else. Day traders have their own set of goals. What does any of it have to...
IMO, GP tried to use an analogy to describe a natural order.

In the meantime, the chaos in the market would end up in a form of the human herd mentality expressed in waves, which was the cornerstone of EWP that R.N. Elliot discovered long time ago. The EWP and Fibonacci are two facets of the same natural phenomena.
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  • #27,297
  • Feb 7, 2013 10:36pm Feb 7, 2013 10:36pm
pretty much on the same page, i think

munkee see munkee make money,

and then there is the latest brilliance, prechter and schiff all in 1

i know you will love it

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MZfqCTuC_zw



http://www.munknee.com/2010/09/robert-prechters-elliott-wave-theory-dow-set-to-tumble-to-8000/



Quoting 2+2=4ex
Okay that's fine and all. I won't disagree with any of the 5-3 is most efficient stuff. Mainly cause I'm not an engineer. But let me ask you this then... how do you differentiate between 5-3 and 5.35-3.53?

Or how about 5.3535-3.5353?

It goes on and on. So how do you know which wave you are on? Where does it end? Where does the next one start? And back to which wave is now starting? The more I think about it, the more I believe that EWP is just a humans way of trying to make sense of something too great to put in order for the human mind.

EDIT:...
  • #27,298
  • Feb 7, 2013 10:38pm Feb 7, 2013 10:38pm
Quoting roro53
happy 5000!
Thanks man. Thanks for the photo too!
  • #27,299
  • Feb 7, 2013 10:40pm Feb 7, 2013 10:40pm
Quoting DaddyBear
IMO, GP tried to use an analogy to describe a natural order.

In the meantime, the chaos in the market would end up in a form of the human herd mentality expressed in waves, which was the cornerstone of EWP that R.N. Elliot discovered long time ago. The EWP and Fibonacci are two facets of the same natural phenomena.
you are cool in my book, D. thanks for letting me post

just trying to make a point about prechter.......not a real good record when someone looks under the waves
  • #27,300
  • Feb 7, 2013 10:41pm Feb 7, 2013 10:41pm
So many waves and waves after more waves. How does one interpret? We've been range trading for a long long time building up more and more energy for a move that very well could be a massive one.

We've been stuck in a large trading range set for us back in 07/2011 - 10/2011. I count 14 waves since then (high) and now we're on wave 15 down. I bet there's a million differing interpretations of EWP on this but in a non trending market the waves are meaningless in my opinion. I think wave counts are more relevant in a trending market. We may very well be just in the beginning stages of a trending market as the current wave down could be wave one of a major five wave bear market.


Now will somebody interpret all those waves I see on the weekly chart, please ?
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