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  • #16,821
  • Feb 7, 2013 3:14pm Feb 7, 2013 3:14pm
hey all,

I had issues with the origina 4.4h Symphonie with aletrs getting sent on each candle close. Therefore i have modified Symphonie indicator with the fix and following changes for easy-er use:

- added settings for ALL timeframes so that when you change the timeframe you dont need to change settings or load different template. The settings change with change of timeframe
- added new option "ForceTimeFrame" which allowes us to use custom timeframe of symphonie indicator on current timeframe (for example we are on 5 minutes chart and we want to include 15min symphone
- you can even include multiple timeframe indicators on same chart (check out the pic)
- if you switch between different timeframes you can select for each timeframe if you want it to sent the alerts (for example just select to allow alerts only on H1 and H4 timeframes but none other timeframes)
- fixed a bug regarding alerts now you have alert only on when ALL 4 indicators are changed to ALL colors and notification is NOT sent on each new candle (but only on first color change)

thats it...

Before I give back to this great community I would of course like to ask Evaluator for the permission to publish this upgraded Symphonie (ex4) file here. As per his previous requests i would not be publishing the mq4 source file unless you want me to.


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Above picture shows Three timeframes current 5min symphonie, 15min symphonie and 60min symphonie on same chart (close up)

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Above picture shows Three timeframes current 5min symphonie, 15min symphonie and 60min symphonie on same chart (zoom out)

please note each Timeframe above has its own settings...

p.s.: Don't PM me about the code i wont send it to anyone unless i get permission from Evaluator

thanks

Dworf
  • #16,822
  • Feb 7, 2013 3:18pm Feb 7, 2013 3:18pm
Quoting Dworf
hey all,

I had issues with the origina 4.4h Symphonie with aletrs getting sent on each candle close. Therefore i have modified Symphonie indicator with the fix and following changes for easy-er use:

- added settings for ALL timeframes so that when you change the timeframe you dont need to change settings or load different template. The settings change with change of timeframe
- added new option "ForceTimeFrame" which allowes us to use custom timeframe of symphonie indicator on current timeframe (for example we are on 5 minutes chart and...
Oh, i want this so bad!!
  • #16,823
  • Feb 7, 2013 9:09pm Feb 7, 2013 9:09pm
Quoting Dworf
hey all,

I had issues with the origina 4.4h Symphonie with aletrs getting sent on each candle close. Therefore i have modified Symphonie indicator with the fix and following changes for easy-er use:

- added settings for ALL timeframes so that when you change the timeframe you dont need to change settings or load different template. The settings change with change of timeframe
- added new option "ForceTimeFrame" which allowes us to use custom timeframe of symphonie indicator on current timeframe (for example we are on 5 minutes chart and...

Sweet
  • #16,824
  • Feb 8, 2013 2:24am Feb 8, 2013 2:24am
Quoting Evaluator
[...]

And now the second present....After months of testing, trading, and testing and trading, Below is a TimeFrame Matrix that I have found to be most optimized for the timeframes. H O W E V E R, you still may wish to fine tune the input settings for your trading timeframe to your prefered.


Symphonie 4.4h Matrix Optimalizations

TimeFrame 1 min
Extreme indikator
0,003
0,1


Emotion indikator
125

Trendline indikator
30

Sentiment indikator
12
26
9

TimeFrame 5 min
Extreme indikator
0,00057...
Hi Evaluator,

first of all, a big thank you for handing over this very nice trading system to your fellow (in my case, wanna be) traders!

I've just stumbled onto your thread a couple of hours ago, so I didn't have a chance yet to test it properly, but the first impression - gathered by comparing it with the, not so bad either, system I'm using at the moment - is definitely positive. As a small contribution to this thread, I wanna clear up a minor inconsistency in this post, namely, the text about the optimization of the new Symphonie 4.4h Matrix Indikator contains different sentiment values (24, 52, 15) than shown on the settings-image (14, 26, 15 or 9). I think the values from the text are the correct ones, but it's clear that this 'mistake' could lead to confusion (not to mention, false signals/losing trades)...

Once again, thanks for your generosity and I wish you, and all our fellow traders here and all over the world, many green pips, using your Symphonie Trader System!

Ronald
95% of the people don't believe 100% they can win, that's why they lose
  • #16,825
  • Edited 5:15am Feb 8, 2013 2:37am | Edited 5:15am
Quoting Evaluator
[...] (This is a constantly updated document that will contain additions and modifications to strategy)
Hi Evaluator,

I'm new to this thread, but found your new Symphonie v4.4h Matrix Indicator somewhere further on (post# 15,822)... Wouldn't you consider it a good idea updating post#1 with it?

Many thanks for sharing your wonderful system with your fellow (wanna be) traders!

Happy pipping,

Ronald

update: found mentioning of this new version amongst the 'tips' on post#1; still think it's a good idea
to keep important file updates available there also though...
95% of the people don't believe 100% they can win, that's why they lose
  • #16,826
  • Feb 8, 2013 8:55am Feb 8, 2013 8:55am
Today is a consolidation day......many +1 pip trades.

Evaluator.:nerd:
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  • #16,827
  • Feb 8, 2013 9:52am Feb 8, 2013 9:52am
Quoting Evaluator
Today is a consolidation day......many +1 pip trades.

Evaluator.:nerd:
Hi Evaluator!
Many thanx for introducing your personal profitable trading system to us. I have been watching its profitability as well as your valued comments all the time. You have mentioned the number of exit strategies on the first page. And demo accounts to show the profitability of the system. In fact it is always a big question when to exit. My question is, can you tell us what exit strategy you personaly use?
  • #16,828
  • Feb 8, 2013 10:08am Feb 8, 2013 10:08am
Quoting TradeDoctor
Hi Evaluator!
Many thanx for introducing your personal profitable trading system to us. I have been watching its profitability as well as your valued comments all the time. You have mentioned the number of exit strategies on the first page. And demo accounts to show the profitability of the system. In fact it is always a big question when to exit. My question is, can you tell us what exit strategy you personaly use?
Sorry....found the answer in post #15822...thanx
  • #16,829
  • Feb 9, 2013 1:18pm Feb 9, 2013 1:18pm
Quoting Dworf
hey all,

I had issues with the origina 4.4h Symphonie with aletrs getting sent on each candle close. Therefore i have modified Symphonie indicator with the fix and following changes for easy-er use:

- added settings for ALL timeframes so that when you change the timeframe you dont need to change settings or load different template. The settings change with change of timeframe
- added new option "ForceTimeFrame" which allowes us to use custom timeframe of symphonie indicator on current timeframe (for example we are on 5 minutes chart and...
Wow, Dworf, if you can manage to change this wonderful indicator to be even more wonderful, in the way you describe, that would contribute to the Symphonie Trader System SO much! Really watching out for this and thanks in advance. And of course it's magnificent to see how people like Evaluator, and others who put in their 2 cents, generously share their knowledge, time and hard work to make our lives a bit more enjoyable. I bow for you all.
95% of the people don't believe 100% they can win, that's why they lose
  • #16,830
  • Edited 8:13pm Feb 9, 2013 7:48pm | Edited 8:13pm
Quoting Stickbow21
Ok, I know I've already altered Eval's method once (have mercy ) but I thought I'd share something that I've been working on that looks very promising for 4H time frame. I really like the symphonie settings for lower time frames but I just haven't been satisfied for higher (4H and Daily).

]Entry: Market order provided 1-3 are present:

1.) Symphonie Signal on fast setting (12,26,5 - 8 - 8 - 0.05,0.2)
2.) Does the trade have a good chance to hit at least 1:2 RR?
3.) Is the risk small enough?...
Hey Stickbow21,

looking at your charts, this idea came up

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so here is..

1-Entry: slow and fast Symphonie aligned

2-Exit: fast Symphonie shows opposite signal

backtesting just visual

cheers
  • #16,831
  • Feb 10, 2013 11:49am Feb 10, 2013 11:49am
why there is no much activity in this topic ..
  • #16,832
  • Feb 10, 2013 1:07pm Feb 10, 2013 1:07pm
Quoting anas hani
why there is no much activity in this topic ..
1. It`s sunday -
2. It`s New Year in parts of asia
3. It`s Carnival Season in many (formerly) christian countries

Whilst I lived in Saudi Arabia I missed carnival a lot. And 1 and 2 means lot`s of alcohol

Kind regards
  • #16,833
  • Feb 10, 2013 1:11pm Feb 10, 2013 1:11pm
Quoting Forex37
1. It`s sunday -
2. It`s New Year in parts of asia
3. It`s Carnival Season in many (formerly) christian countries

Whilst I lived in Saudi Arabia I missed carnival a lot. And 1 and 2 means lot`s of alcohol

Kind regards
lool my bad
  • #16,834
  • Feb 10, 2013 1:30pm Feb 10, 2013 1:30pm
Quoting andddres1
Hey Stickbow21,

looking at your charts, this idea came up

Attachment

so here is..

1-Entry: slow and fast Symphonie aligned

2-Exit: fast Symphonie shows opposite signal

backtesting just visual

cheers
Andd,

Perhaps at first glance that might look to be possible, but I think after further testing you would find that it wouldn't be viable. Why? January and February have been good months. 2.) The R:R wouldn't be good enough. Perhaps I'm wrong but waiting for the default symphonie to align is too late of an entry to then get out at the first fast symphonie signal overall. Just my 2 cents.

EDIT: Just noticed you are using a higher TF. I was only referring to 5M. I will check higher TF's and see what I find.
  • #16,835
  • Feb 10, 2013 1:40pm Feb 10, 2013 1:40pm
Quoting Stickbow21
Andd,

Perhaps at first glance that might look to be possible, but I think after further testing you would find that it wouldn't be viable. Why? January and February have been good months. 2.) The R:R wouldn't be good enough. Perhaps I'm wrong but waiting for the default symphonie to align is too late of an entry to then get out at the first fast symphonie signal overall. Just my 2 cents.

EDIT: Just noticed you are using a higher TF. I was only referring to 5M. I will check higher TF's and see what I find.
Ok, this is why it won't work. Waiting for the fast signal to match the slow is pointless because the fast always matches the slow when all the colors match. If the slow is all blue then the fast will be all blue and vice versa. Getting out at an opposite fast signal gets you out too soon for it to be worth the risk. This is what I've found.
  • #16,836
  • Feb 11, 2013 3:09am Feb 11, 2013 3:09am
Typic crazy Monday.....

Alot of +1 pips today. I am looking for some trending soon.

Evaluator.:nerd:
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  • #16,837
  • Feb 11, 2013 3:17am Feb 11, 2013 3:17am
Evaluator shouldn't it be 2 losses -7 pips & -6pips today plus one current open trade which is in a loss of -15 pips
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  • #16,838
  • Feb 11, 2013 3:28am Feb 11, 2013 3:28am
Quoting fugly
Evaluator shouldn't it be 2 losses -7 pips & -6pips today plus one current open trade which is in a loss of -15 pips
fugly,

Sorry to hear. I have 3 orders today and the arrows in my screenshot show where I make orders.
I mark the others to show possible additional entry levels. I have find that best orders at at the first change in extreme. The tend to be strong and make best orders but the others are valid as well.


Evalautor.:nerd:
  • #16,839
  • Feb 11, 2013 3:32am Feb 11, 2013 3:32am
Evaluator thank you for your reply and for your pointers, i will try to incorporate it as soon a spossible

Is version 3.0 still valid? Can i trade with it or do i need to upgrade to version v.4 reason i ask is because I've reached page 106 and not yet come across version 4.0, i have a lot more reading to do of course

Also are you moving your stop to BE before +30 pips?
  • #16,840
  • Feb 11, 2013 4:04am Feb 11, 2013 4:04am
Evaluator i found the answers regarding moving sl to BE+1 at 10 pips in post 311822 on pg 1105

would be great if you could mention this on page 1 or just put a link to #311822 to reflect the latest version and settings.
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