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  • #201
  • Jan 24, 2013 1:19am Jan 24, 2013 1:19am
Could you share with us your spreadsheet please ?
Quoting gj6n68
Hi,

I just came across your wonderful and so simple but powerful thread yesterday.


And I saw a few replies regarding how many pips the stop loss should be away. Further to that I did bit of analysis on daily change (in pips) on audcad and audchf. I did this to find out how much has the market moved if we take extreme cases to set our stop loss, especially on daily basis only.

For audcad, the max it moved down was 148 pips, while max it moved up was 143.
For audchf, the max it moved down was 444 and max it moved up was 805.

I may be...
  • #202
  • Jan 24, 2013 3:48am Jan 24, 2013 3:48am
Quoting toinou21
Could you share with us your spreadsheet please ?
Hi,

I've attached the example sheet, which has data for one pair.

have a look at it and let me know if you don't understand it. I've done it with very basic understanding.
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  • #203
  • Jan 24, 2013 4:22am Jan 24, 2013 4:22am
Quoting gj6n68
Hi,

I've attached the example sheet, which has data for one pair.

have a look at it and let me know if you don't understand it. I've done it with very basic understanding.
Thank you, looks interesting, which indicator did you use to get this data ?
  • #204
  • Jan 24, 2013 4:24am Jan 24, 2013 4:24am
Quoting toinou21
Thank you, looks interesting, which indicator did you use to get this data ?
Data comes from bloomberg. It is just raw data, using bloomberg template. No indicator used, here.
  • #205
  • Jan 24, 2013 10:11am Jan 24, 2013 10:11am
Quoting gj6n68
Data comes from bloomberg. It is just raw data, using bloomberg template. No indicator used, here.
got it. thank you.

I have another question Spyderman, (sorry for bothering you ha ) on your trade list you have been trading many pairs, so somehow do you try to diversify the risk ?
  • #206
  • Jan 25, 2013 4:47am Jan 25, 2013 4:47am
Wow, 15 min to USA open, been traveling by plane all day, finally sitting in hotel room, first chance to check charts - I can see that it must be a great day for "PI" - hope you got some good add on trades spyderman

I definitely have to set up a VPS so I can get this running & testing properly

It takes a lot for me to IGNORE you, but you can try.
  • #207
  • Jan 25, 2013 5:12am Jan 25, 2013 5:12am
Quoting Erebus
Wow, 15 min to USA open, been traveling by plane all day, finally sitting in hotel room, first chance to check charts - I can see that it must be a great day for "PI" - hope you got some good add on trades spyderman

I definitely have to set up a VPS so I can get this running & testing properly


Yeah, things are moving nicely right now. Had about 5 addons yesterday and another this morning. I'm back in teh Eur/Jpy, so seems like that stop out earlier was indeed premature. That will end up costing me in the long run. Oh, well.

I'm think about an alternative to the x pips of s/l. I have a trailing ea that will trail behind a MA. Seems like it might be the thing to just trail 10 pips behind the close of the 22 MA. Set an initial s/l of course and then maybe move to BE after a strong move, but then switch to trailing.
That way that retracement this week wouldn't have taken out the E/J. Maybe the G/J would have been hit...the pound was pretty week at the beginning of the week.
  • #208
  • Jan 25, 2013 5:19am Jan 25, 2013 5:19am
Quoting toinou21
got it. thank you.

I have another question Spyderman, (sorry for bothering you ha ) on your trade list you have been trading many pairs, so somehow do you try to diversify the risk ?

Not sure exactly what the question is. By trading many pairs, I am diversifying the risk. If you mean many pairs with the same cross, i.e. JPY, then I don't worry to much about the correlation. Different crosses will act slightly differently, have orders triggered different days etc. This week I had both long EurAud and short Gbp/Aud in good profit (until the Aussie weakened), even though Eur and Gbp often act similar.

I've never been a big fan of avoiding pair correlation as a rule. I think you just have to look at the situation in light of the global sentiment. I mean you can get yourself into analysis paralysis if you start questioning every correlation...Can't trade Eur and Gbp together...can't take Usd and Jpy trades together because they're both safe haven currencies...can't trade the commodity currencies together, Aud-Cad-Nzd...can't trade Cad along side Usd...etc. etc.
  • #209
  • Jan 25, 2013 9:04am Jan 25, 2013 9:04am
Quoting spyderman
Not sure exactly what the question is. By trading many pairs, I am diversifying the risk. If you mean many pairs with the same cross, i.e. JPY, then I don't worry to much about the correlation. Different crosses will act slightly differently, have orders triggered different days etc. This week I had both long EurAud and short Gbp/Aud in good profit (until the Aussie weakened), even though Eur and Gbp often act similar.

I've never been a big fan of avoiding pair correlation as a rule. I think you just have to look at the situation in light...
Thank you, it was the answer i was looking for, especially about trading many pairs with the same cross.
  • #210
  • Jan 25, 2013 10:40am Jan 25, 2013 10:40am
Since we have a gap during the weekend, do you set up any trade just before the market close on Friday ?
  • #211
  • Jan 25, 2013 12:07pm Jan 25, 2013 12:07pm
Quoting toinou21
Since we have a gap during the weekend, do you set up any trade just before the market close on Friday ?
I don't treat Weekend much different. My daily bar closes 5:00 pm EST so that works well for weekend close. At the beginning of the new day, in this case Sunday, I place all my trades at that time.
  • #212
  • Jan 27, 2013 10:10am Jan 27, 2013 10:10am
hello,
This is USDCHF using daily timeframe. Do you have any pending order on this pair ? and if yes how do you deal with it ? do you keep the 2 pending orders , or the last set up who shows up cancel the previous ?
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  • #213
  • Jan 27, 2013 10:32am Jan 27, 2013 10:32am
Quoting toinou21
hello,
This is USDCHF using daily timeframe. Do you have any pending order on this pair ? and if yes how do you deal with it ? do you keep the 2 pending orders , or the last set up who shows up cancel the previous ?

To answer the first part of your question, no, no pending orders. I am not trading the Chf crosses as the Swiss Franc is so closely pegged to the Euro. So if you trade UsdChf, you are basically trading EurUsd. Not the charts below, basically mirror images.

To answer the second part on the setup in general, remember we're looking for a pull back and then a break of the recent high to signify a resumption of the trend. On this pair the first reversal bar is still valid so I would place a pending above that recent high. It would actually go above the wick two candles to the left of your first arrow.
  • #214
  • Jan 27, 2013 10:46am Jan 27, 2013 10:46am
Hi

Just finished reading the thread and I am subscribing.

Regards

John from Durban
  • #215
  • Jan 27, 2013 10:52am Jan 27, 2013 10:52am
Quoting jmcl
Hi

Just finished reading the thread and I am subscribing.

Regards

John from Durban
Welcome John. There's not much to say on the way. Pretty basic and yet slow moving at the same time. Not as sexy as scalping, but hey, what ya going to do.

Feel free to ask any quesitons.
  • #216
  • Jan 27, 2013 11:02am Jan 27, 2013 11:02am
Quoting spyderman
Welcome John. There's not much to say on the way. Pretty basic and yet slow moving at the same time. Not as sexy as scalping, but hey, what ya going to do.

Feel free to ask any quesitons.
Thank you and the sexy scalping from my side is out of the door - patience will count from now on.

John
  • #217
  • Jan 27, 2013 12:35pm Jan 27, 2013 12:35pm
We have a possible set up on AUDUSD, when do you think it's the best time to enter ?
I'm guessing we have 3 possibilities before us.

1/ we could enter at the opening of the next candle (the MACD shows us sell signal)
2/ we could wait for the next pull back and enter when the trend resume
3/ we enter at the break of the purple line.

thanks for your time.
Toinou
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  • #218
  • Jan 27, 2013 1:20pm Jan 27, 2013 1:20pm
Quoting toinou21
We have a possible set up on AUDUSD, when do you think it's the best time to enter ?
I'm guessing we have 3 possibilities before us.

1/ we could enter at the opening of the next candle (the MACD shows us sell signal)
2/ we could wait for the next pull back and enter when the trend resume
3/ we enter at the break of the purple line.

thanks for your time.
Toinou
AudUsd has been pretty choppy. Aussie's been all over the place with the China economic situation. I'd opt for waiting for a pullback and reaffirmation before entering.
  • #219
  • Edited 8:26am Jan 28, 2013 8:11am | Edited 8:26am
spyderman, if you did not try to filter the signals on the weekly chart ?
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  • #220
  • Jan 28, 2013 9:21am Jan 28, 2013 9:21am
Quoting alexey
spyderman, if you did not try to filter the signals on the weekly chart ?
Not sure what your question is here?
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