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  • #745,941
  • Jan 14, 2013 1:24pm Jan 14, 2013 1:24pm
Quoting DaEdge
gatorinla, turhovach

I completely understand the debt ceiling issue and that we have to pay our bills, my problem lies in the fact that hes not looking to negotiate this issue moving forward which is going to lead to increased spending moving forward on for the most part unless programs this year. Maybe im just a hard headed Republican that doesn't believe a word that comes out of the presidents mouth anymore. The size of the US government has gotten way to large and the reason we are being held hostage to all these nonsensical political...
He's not willing to negotiate on the Debt Ceiling issue, but I'm pretty sure he's made it clear that there is room for negotiation on the deficit reduction issue (they are two different things), as long as it's not used as a bargaining chip for the Debt Ceiling issue.

But you're right, this isn't the place for this kind of discussion.
  • #745,942
  • Jan 14, 2013 1:30pm Jan 14, 2013 1:30pm
It's called kicking the can down the road!
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  • #745,943
  • Jan 14, 2013 1:31pm Jan 14, 2013 1:31pm
Quoting Turhovach
Seems everything is on hold pending Mr. Bernanke's speech at the University of Michigan. So what is everyone expecting? That he will reiterate in no uncertain terms the Fed's recent statement of adhering to the 6.5% unemployment goal coupled with an $85B per month bond buying program? What if he doesn't explicitly comment on those items? Then what? EURO goes down?

He's talking to a bunch of students. I seriously doubt he's going to go into any great detail about the Fed's future actions. And I sure as heck don't think he's going to...
Williams comments earlier in the day are hinting towards QE into at least the 2nd half of this year, and thats being conservative considering the Fed is looking for 6.5% unemployment which he himself said earlier as well he expects unemployment at or above 7% through the end of 2014. So unless we start getting a string of NFP reports over 200k for 6 months looks like QE will be around for a while longer. Keep in mind the 200k in NFP for 6 months would bring the unemployment rate down significantly. IMO they will stick with this current version of QE for a good portion of this year then they figure out a new form of QE switch up the assets there buying and give it a new twist and rename it. Markets are way to hooked on stimulus and as they get tired of one brand the Fed just creates a new one with a twist.
It works till it doesn't
  • #745,944
  • Jan 14, 2013 1:32pm Jan 14, 2013 1:32pm
Quoting gatorinla
is face book buying Dell? or Micheal Dell?

Neither of those was mentioned. Only that talks were underway with two private equity firms.
  • #745,945
  • Jan 14, 2013 1:32pm Jan 14, 2013 1:32pm
Quoting Chicky
Help wanted

I want to include a term in my resume denoting my trading skill that combines Charting and Fundamentals.

Suggested name for this skill will be very much appreciated.

Currently I have these two proposals that combine both elements of charting and fundamental trading:

1. Charmentalist

and

2. Fartist
It works till it doesn't
  • #745,946
  • Jan 14, 2013 1:34pm Jan 14, 2013 1:34pm
Quoting DaEdge
gatorinla, turhovach

I completely understand the debt ceiling issue and that we have to pay our bills, my problem lies in the fact that hes not looking to negotiate this issue moving forward which is going to lead to increased spending moving forward on for the most part unless programs this year. Maybe im just a hard headed Republican that doesn't believe a word that comes out of the presidents mouth anymore. The size of the US government has gotten way to large and the reason we are being held hostage to all these nonsensical political events...
edge i know what you're saying that government spending has gotten out of control but thats the thing we have passed the point of no return if the government doesnt spend money/debt then we go into a depression. it's all about the money supply and debt. when money is created it is created through debt. this debt has interest applied to it, therefore it is a mathematical certainty that when the debts grow so big the interest payments alone stop economic growth. see our money system is designed for failures actually its designed to give the bank owners every asset on the planet. thats why we have a 1% that owns a majority of the wealth. thats why every central bank is trying to expand the money supply by taking on worthless debts, ie government, mbs , LTRO etc..... its a race to debase and re-inflate the money supply. problem is theirs nothing left to create a bubble in stocks peaked in 2001 and 2007. housing in 2006. so the fed is trying to inflate both dead bubbles back by QE. problem with the fed's actions is the banks arent leanding because their needs to be 2 things present to make new loans. 1. income to pay those loans off and 2. collateral. incomes are falling and assets namely housing prices arent on a upward move because the banks know they have tons of foreclosures to dump on the market.

if you want to learn more on this listen to steve keen is got a lot of good ideas "debt jubilee" and models.
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  • #745,947
  • Jan 14, 2013 1:34pm Jan 14, 2013 1:34pm
Quoting DaEdge
Williams comments earlier in the day are hinting towards QE into at least the 2nd half of this year, and thats being conservative considering the Fed is looking for 6.5% unemployment which he himself said earlier as well he expects unemployment at or above 7% through the end of 2014....
Oh, I'm 100% in agreement with you on that. I've been saying that for what seems like forever. No way are we going to see a sub 6.5% unemployment rate anytime soon.


Go EURO go. Ho Ho Ho
  • #745,948
  • Jan 14, 2013 1:34pm Jan 14, 2013 1:34pm
Quoting Chicky
Help wanted

I want to include a term in my resume denoting my trading skill that combines Charting and Fundamentals.

Suggested name for this skill will be very much appreciated.

Currently I have these two proposals that combine both elements of charting and fundamental trading:

1. Charmentalist

and

2. Fartist
How about : Fudgistan Detector !
"It's the Margin, Stupid."
  • #745,949
  • Jan 14, 2013 1:36pm Jan 14, 2013 1:36pm
anyone have idea what's going on with eur v. chf in last hour (or day for that matter)?
  • #745,950
  • Jan 14, 2013 1:37pm Jan 14, 2013 1:37pm
Quoting Chicky
Help wanted

I want to include a term in my resume denoting my trading skill that combines Charting and Fundamentals.

Suggested name for this skill will be very much appreciated.

Currently I have these two proposals that combine both elements of charting and fundamental trading:

1. Charmentalist

and

2. Fartist
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  • #745,951
  • Jan 14, 2013 1:40pm Jan 14, 2013 1:40pm
i really try and keep things simple and not analyse too much, hurts my little brain.

pair is rising, will continue after bens speech.

decline comes late thursday/early friday.
  • #745,952
  • Jan 14, 2013 1:40pm Jan 14, 2013 1:40pm
"FunChart" seems nice!

Quoting Chicky
Help wanted

I want to include a term in my resume denoting my trading skill that combines Charting and Fundamentals.

Suggested name for this skill will be very much appreciated.

Currently I have these two proposals that combine both elements of charting and fundamental trading:

1. Charmentalist

and

2. Fartist
Work smarter,not harder
  • #745,953
  • Jan 14, 2013 1:46pm Jan 14, 2013 1:46pm
Quoting DaEdge
gatorinla, turhovach

I completely understand the debt ceiling issue and that we have to pay our bills, my problem lies in the fact that hes not looking to negotiate this issue moving forward which is going to lead to increased spending moving forward on for the most part unless programs this year. Maybe im just a hard headed Republican that doesn't believe a word that comes out of the presidents mouth anymore. The size of the US government has gotten way to large and the reason we are being held hostage to all these nonsensical political events...
george bush=barrack obama
that's the equation!!
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  • #745,954
  • Jan 14, 2013 1:48pm Jan 14, 2013 1:48pm
Quoting 1candlepower
anyone have idea what's going on with eur v. chf in last hour (or day for that matter)?
who the hell is selling francs like mad? ...seems to be weighing on the eur
  • #745,955
  • Jan 14, 2013 1:49pm Jan 14, 2013 1:49pm
Quoting 1candlepower
anyone have idea what's going on with eur v. chf in last hour (or day for that matter)?
they try to steal us ! it's not impossible sharp up and sharp down !?
  • #745,956
  • Jan 14, 2013 1:51pm Jan 14, 2013 1:51pm
Hmm..EUR/CHF is flying...Maybe, SNB will start selling EUR during Bernake speech to unload their reserves.
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  • #745,957
  • Jan 14, 2013 1:53pm Jan 14, 2013 1:53pm
Quoting cipid2012
Hmm..EUR/CHF is flying...Maybe, SNB will start selling EUR during Bernake speech to unload their reserves.

oh... that would be clever..
  • #745,958
  • Jan 14, 2013 1:55pm Jan 14, 2013 1:55pm
Quoting Turhovach
Jeez -- USDCHF is on a tear. Wonder what's up with that. Thought these two were supposed to be inversely correlated.

Something very strange is going on...

imagine that, something strange going on in the forex market.

i mean its such an honest, unmanipulated and logical market.
  • #745,959
  • Jan 14, 2013 1:56pm Jan 14, 2013 1:56pm
Euro index just started to make a new high. tragetting 1.3600 - possibly higher.
  • #745,960
  • Jan 14, 2013 1:58pm Jan 14, 2013 1:58pm
Quoting godrich
imagine that, something strange going on in the forex market.

i mean its such an honest, unmanipulated and logical market.

heeeyyy.... careful with the sarcasm there. these days, i'll take intraday volatility anywhere i can find it
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