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  • #42,541
  • Jan 2, 2013 12:30pm Jan 2, 2013 12:30pm
where could i learn about the VSA volume.Thank you
  • #42,542
  • Jan 2, 2013 12:42pm Jan 2, 2013 12:42pm
Marcelms~

I'm new to this Thread, but I am just trying to help. I believe it is listed on post #1 for indictor information. I have copied an insert from TAH.

You also can check out our best contributer Professor TAH's templates HERE and


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Once the indicators are installed into MT4 you can access the user notes. In the main MT4 window there is a yellow diamond icon with "i" in it. Click on it to open the MetaEditor, where you will find a list on the right that includes "indicators", where you will find the indicators you want to "open" in order to see the user notes at the top of indicator compile (code). Double click on any such indicator in the list and the code for it will appear in the MetaEditor window. You can scroll down the code to view. You will find user notes near the top.

Walt
  • #42,543
  • Jan 2, 2013 1:01pm Jan 2, 2013 1:01pm
Hansma your gaps are HUGE, I read nearly the same chart as sonicdeejay, with the huge bull candles. It had a small gap but nothing like yours. I was patient enough to wait for the same entry as sonicdeejay and am at +114 pips as I type, but I was early on my AUD/USD entry and went short at my brokers open (was a small gap) and price jumped like crazy.

Luckily this is all demo, but I should have checked bloomberg first, fiscal policy was being voted on.
You can see my trades in my profile, but I cant post chart atm.
  • #42,544
  • Jan 2, 2013 1:24pm Jan 2, 2013 1:24pm
Quoting Mezzy
Hansma your gaps are HUGE, I read nearly the same chart as sonicdeejay, with the huge bull candles. It had a small gap but nothing like yours. I was patient enough to wait for the same entry as sonicdeejay and am at +114 pips as I type, but I was early on my AUD/USD entry and went short at my brokers open (was a small gap) and price jumped like crazy.

Luckily this is all demo, but I should have checked bloomberg first, fiscal policy was being voted on.
You can see my trades in my profile, but I cant post chart atm.
I donīt trade gaps - it all depends on your brokerīs chart. What they show and what they donīt.

One way to overcome this is to use line charts, having done so I have the exact same chart as Sonic did.

Regards,

H.
"The future is already written in the past"
  • #42,545
  • Jan 2, 2013 3:02pm Jan 2, 2013 3:02pm
EU/GU:

For quite some time now there have been clues the market might be covertly bearish, while continuing to pump the prices. And perhaps it could be so if there are literally billions of dollars in long term bull positions that need to be closed and re-opened as short positions. That would require months and a lot of suckers invited to the extended party to cover the opposite sides of the market's closing longs and opening shorts.

In the wee hours of today, the market rammed prices up once again, and then spent the rest of the day doing,.....what? Looks like massive selling to me! Just look at the volumes involved. Sonicers, the volume for the trips up on these two has got to be far less than 10% of the volumes for the rest of the day as the prices dropped back down! To me, that looks like the market said, "Quick! Get the price up! We got a day of selloffs ahead of us!"

The "Up" volumes are minicule compared to the "Down" volumes on these two. And such Pumps & Dumps have been going on for a very long time, even while the market has kept upwards pressure on the prices. I doubt we have seen the end of such games, especially if billions and billions of dollars are involved that have to be "reversed". The market is simply unable to quickly do it because it is unable to instantly "call up" for all the suckers needed to pull the reversal off.

My guess, and it is just a guess, is that we'll be seeing more up/down PA with the price actually not moving real far, real fast. Not until the market heavy hitters are reversed.
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  • #42,546
  • Jan 2, 2013 4:08pm Jan 2, 2013 4:08pm
TAH/Sonic ~ Thanks for a Great Site!

TAH~ Q? I have pasted your notes on the VSA, but I'm still fuzzy are we looking for divergence on volume and price? ie. As price increases the volume does not increase?

1. Special Volume/Price Situations-
Volume bars emphasized with special colors to denote special volume/price situations help
you quickly associate these volume bars with the correct candlesticks.
A. Volume Bars for Climax Candles
Volume bars where the product of candle spread x candle volume is highest for the 20 most
recent candles. Bars for bull candles are green and for bear candles are red.
B. Volume Bars for Candles Rising Above Average Volume
Volume bars where volume is greater than the product of 1.38 x the average volume of the
10 most recent candles. These bars are blue.
  • #42,547
  • Jan 2, 2013 6:33pm Jan 2, 2013 6:33pm
Mkt is creeping up in the thin vol..after the great fall..

I rather see this as the better opportunity to take short position than bullish reversal..
See what LO brings..

Sonic
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  • #42,548
  • Jan 2, 2013 6:55pm Jan 2, 2013 6:55pm
Quoting wat
TAH/Sonic ~ Thanks for a Great Site!

TAH~ Q? I have pasted your notes on the VSA, but I'm still fuzzy are we looking for divergence on volume and price? ie. As price increases the volume does not increase?

1. Special Volume/Price Situations-
Volume bars emphasized with special colors to denote special volume/price situations help
you quickly associate these volume bars with the correct candlesticks.
A. Volume Bars for Climax Candles
Volume bars where the product of candle spread x candle volume is highest for the 20 most
recent candles. Bars...
No, divergence on volume/price is not a strong clue. Climax candles/volume bars are much clearer indications of what the market is doing. But, yes, there are other clues, but subject to interpretation. So, remember, volume is to be used after-the-fact, to see if it jives with next valid setup. Do not trade on volume alone!
  • #42,549
  • Jan 2, 2013 7:05pm Jan 2, 2013 7:05pm
Quoting sonicdeejay
Mkt is creeping up in the thin vol..after the great fall..

I rather see this as the better opportunity to take short position than bullish reversal..
See what LO brings..

Sonic
....and still in a range, like the market is using the range; moving price up in the range to sucker in longs while it closes longs, and then executing additional selloffs that take price back down to the bottom of the range. So, we could next be in store for a long setup, believe it or not, back towards the top area of the range. It is a possibility. Or, even a 25-35 pips move to mid-range area, the pips depending on exactly where the move EP might sit.

Yet, a break down from the range is more probable than a break up out of the range. Therefore, shorting indeed looks to be the better opportunity.
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  • #42,550
  • Jan 2, 2013 8:18pm Jan 2, 2013 8:18pm
EURUSD Daily TF
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  • #42,551
  • Jan 2, 2013 8:29pm Jan 2, 2013 8:29pm
Quoting traderathome
....and still in a range, like the market is using the range; moving price up in the range to sucker in longs while it closes longs, and then executing additional selloffs that take price back down to the bottom of the range. So, we could next be in store for a long setup, believe it or not, back towards the top area of the range. It is a possibility. Or, even a 25-35 pips move to mid-range area, the pips depending on exactly where the move EP might sit.

Yet, a break down from the range is more probable than a break up out of the range. Therefore,...
Sonic / TAH Thanks for the site and a great system!
TAH I have a question. These new templates are available for download? Thank you.
If you think you can do a thing or think you can't do a thing, you're right
  • #42,552
  • Jan 2, 2013 8:31pm Jan 2, 2013 8:31pm
Quoting marcelms
where could i learn about the VSA volume.Thank you
Start with reading up page1, post1...

Be prepared to invest your time, before you invest ur $$..

Sonic
  • #42,553
  • Jan 2, 2013 8:36pm Jan 2, 2013 8:36pm
Quoting wat
EURUSD Daily TF
Wat, your fib studies are of no use to any reader without the structure being shown. That is to say, you should clearly show the start and stop points of the Fib Retracement or of the Fib Expansion Study control line. Without that, your lines have absolutely no meaning to anyone.

As for EU soaring higher, well price is ranging above significant SR. The base of the range practically sits on it! And what better place for the base of the range? Due to where it is, each time the market pumps the price it encourages "longs" into believing the price is bouncing up off this SR area. And so they jump in long! Just exactly what the market big players need for them to do, as these players shed more of their billions in long positions! My take, anyway.
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  • #42,554
  • Jan 2, 2013 9:41pm Jan 2, 2013 9:41pm
Quoting Catcher777
Sonic / TAH Thanks for the site and a great system!
TAH I have a question. These new templates are available for download? Thank you.
Working them, and then need to turn over to Sonic for review. Next release, maybe.
  • #42,555
  • Jan 2, 2013 9:44pm Jan 2, 2013 9:44pm
UJ: Entered long.
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  • #42,556
  • Jan 2, 2013 10:02pm Jan 2, 2013 10:02pm
Quoting traderathome
Working them, and then need to turn over to Sonic for review. Next release, maybe.
Thanks, I look forward to. I wish you good trades.
If you think you can do a thing or think you can't do a thing, you're right
  • #42,557
  • Jan 3, 2013 12:24am Jan 3, 2013 12:24am
Just a reminder, we have a galore of news coming out

Sonic
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  • #42,558
  • Jan 3, 2013 12:42am Jan 3, 2013 12:42am
Possible AU short setup today in LO.
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Keep Simple...!
  • #42,559
  • Jan 3, 2013 1:00am Jan 3, 2013 1:00am
Quoting kotlt
Possible AU short setup today in LO.
I didn't saw Short setup

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  • #42,560
  • Jan 3, 2013 1:04am Jan 3, 2013 1:04am
Quoting traderathome
UJ: Entered long.
Professor TAH,

UJ looks toppish to me 15m TF.

Sonic
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