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  • #736,541
  • Dec 20, 2012 3:49am Dec 20, 2012 3:49am
Quoting Pitt Bull
yea thanks, I know this.... the consecutive losses where made from an EA which did not work right...

I am considering to fund a good amount of money on the account, but than still I don´t know how to handel it...

I don´t need the - 24.000 back, equity arround 7.000,- would be fine...

thanks!

Pitt Bull
Mate, please do not fund any more funds at this stage. you really need to stop for a while. The only thing you will now cause is more losses cause you are already revenge trading. It is almost Weihnacten there, go out have some Gluehwein in the open market. Whatever you do but just stop trading, give yourself a break. You need it. Obviously delete that EA. Think about on it for a while, plan your strategy and come back in the second week of Jan when there will be proper liquidity. Unless you believe the Dec 21st crap, the market will be here. You may fund the account actually it is a MUST now to make up some losses but you should really use reasonable leverage and set simple targets say; close every profitable position as soon as it hits 15 -20 pips no matter what. You need to play very safe for a while untill you gain confidence back.

Mit freundlichen Gruessen...
  • #736,542
  • Dec 20, 2012 3:50am Dec 20, 2012 3:50am
Quoting John Gray
Add cash and wait for them to fall out?

It is a waiting game if you want them out in profit.
No adding cash and manage the positions...for example sell the buys when it goes op, or sell and than hedge big when it
moves eaven higher...or sell tbe bys when it drops under 1.3200 and than hedge when it goes up...something like that..

Pitt Bull
  • #736,543
  • Dec 20, 2012 3:50am Dec 20, 2012 3:50am
Quoting MaxDoom
That is not for real, those numbers don't look right at the bottom - must be a demo account otherwise you would have been margin called. not sure how your margin requirement is only 1150 for all those positions either..
It looks like it was already margine called - all that is history
  • #736,544
  • Dec 20, 2012 3:51am Dec 20, 2012 3:51am
Quoting math_GB
Mate, please do not fund any more funds at this stage. you really need to stop for a while. The only thing you will now cause is more losses cause you are already revenge trading. It is almost Weihnacten there, go out have some Gluehwein in the open market. Whatever you do but just stop trading, give yourself a break. You need it. Obviously delete that EA. Think about on it for a while, plan your strategy and come back in the second week of Jan when there will be proper liquidity. Unless you believe the Dec 21st crap, the market will be here. You...

that is not realy an answer to my question.

I am not deperade, I have 17 other accounts-here it just went wrong....

so I really would apreciate comments about my question, that would be nice. thanks!

Pitt Bull
  • #736,545
  • Dec 20, 2012 3:52am Dec 20, 2012 3:52am
Quoting MaxDoom
That is not for real, those numbers don't look right at the bottom - must be a demo account otherwise you would have been margin called. not sure how your margin requirement is only 1150 for all those positions either..
That caught my attention also, but it does seem to add up properly when figuring the "1500 kredit". The margin requirement is so low because the positions are offsetting themselves.
  • #736,546
  • Dec 20, 2012 3:53am Dec 20, 2012 3:53am
Quoting HuoLong
It looks like it was already margine called - all that is history
that is not an answer to my question!

as you can see the last trade was made an hour ago... tha account is pretty much balanced out....

so that comment does not help to solve the problem!

Pitt Bull
  • #736,547
  • Dec 20, 2012 3:53am Dec 20, 2012 3:53am
Quoting Z3iz3i
Pair may move about right now....well positioned for the move.

Watch out, cant say which way. Cross is positive though.
I respectfully disagree, i don't see an imminent move, I think we're stuck between 209-247, but I think we should go down before going back up, either way, I see a potentially frustrating day ahead. We'll see.
  • #736,548
  • Dec 20, 2012 3:54am Dec 20, 2012 3:54am
Took a short from 34 looking for a retest of the 5m trendline at about 3212. Right finger SL
  • #736,549
  • Dec 20, 2012 3:55am Dec 20, 2012 3:55am
Quoting 2+2=4ex
That caught my attention also, but it does seem to add up properly when figuring the "1500 kredit". The margin requirement is so low because the positions are offsetting themselves.
He could be using broker that allows hedging.
  • #736,550
  • Dec 20, 2012 3:55am Dec 20, 2012 3:55am
Quoting Ken A
He could be using broker that allows hedging.
That's what I'm basically saying.
  • #736,551
  • Dec 20, 2012 3:56am Dec 20, 2012 3:56am
Quoting 2+2=4ex
That caught my attention also, but it does seem to add up properly when figuring the "1500 kredit". The margin requirement is so low because the positions are offsetting themselves.
if they are offsetting then the account is going nowhere - he needs to close some to get a direction at least....

but this is history repeating itself look at previous posts

he obviously has no MM control so should give up trading now
  • #736,552
  • Dec 20, 2012 3:57am Dec 20, 2012 3:57am
Quoting MaxDoom
if they are offsetting then the account is going nowhere - he needs to close some to get a direction at least....

but this is history repeating itself look at previous posts
I was just giving an explanation as to why the margin requirement is so low (which you were questioning).
  • #736,553
  • Dec 20, 2012 3:57am Dec 20, 2012 3:57am
Quoting vlady1974
29 broken, pulling the plug.
Have a great Christmas everyone. And a safe but prosperously green New Year.

Vlad
Broke what...??? Come on mate, we should at least wait for the close @10:00. Anyway, I think you left already.
I wish you a merry christmas and a great happy new year mate. May all your goals achieved and happiness always sticks to you...!
  • #736,554
  • Dec 20, 2012 3:58am Dec 20, 2012 3:58am
Quoting 2+2=4ex
That is a mess. Someone else suggested adding cash to cover margin, but I don't advise that. You're unrealized losses are as good as realized. So in order to increase your available margin to safer levels I would start closing positions. It will basically have the same effect as adding cash, but better since you won't be hemorrhaging as much on rollovers. As painful as it may seem, start by closing your largest positions. Again, that money is already gone since unrealized is the same as realized (no need to fool yourself any longer). Next start...
Thank You very much!

That is pretty close to what I did yesterday... when it was up at 1.33 something I hade € 2.000 in equity..

than I closed the buys when it went down...but now I am at € 1.603,-
so I might did something wrong...I also closed some sells with loss, alsmost the same amount which I made Profit with the buys...

so I have to do it better. but I might have something wrong in my plan to close the positions...

but thanks for the help!

Pitt Bull
  • #736,555
  • Dec 20, 2012 3:59am Dec 20, 2012 3:59am
Quoting 2+2=4ex
That is a mess. Someone else suggested adding cash to cover margin, but I don't advise that. You're unrealized losses are as good as realized. So in order to increase your available margin to safer levels I would start closing positions. It will basically have the same effect as adding cash, but better since you won't be hemorrhaging as much on rollovers........
He has a high leverage , this will also not work. And closing the position is the easiest thing to do - which make you think , why he asking or seeking someone's else help. Funding the account won't work too , because of the imbalances he has created by his entries. HE WON'T GET A MARGIN CALL , BECAUSE HE ALREADY HEADGE IT !

However , i won't be writing or bothering myself - till he explain if he is here to sell something or hiring someone
"It's the Margin, Stupid."
  • #736,556
  • Dec 20, 2012 3:59am Dec 20, 2012 3:59am
Quoting cat
I respectfully disagree, i don't see an imminent move, I think we're stuck between 209-247, but I think we should go down before going back up, either way, I see a potentially frustrating day ahead. We'll see.
Very likely this doesn't move until the news in about 3.5 hours from now.
  • #736,557
  • Dec 20, 2012 4:00am Dec 20, 2012 4:00am
Quoting cat
I respectfully disagree, i don't see an imminent move, I think we're stuck between 209-247, but I think we should go down before going back up, either way, I see a potentially frustrating day ahead. We'll see.
Yes, its been tight range.

We have nice base for upside though.
They think they are smarter than I am.
  • #736,558
  • Dec 20, 2012 4:00am Dec 20, 2012 4:00am
Quoting Pitt Bull
Thank You very much!

That is pretty close to what I did yesterday... when it was up at 1.33 something I hade € 2.000 in equity..

than I closed the buys when it went down...but now I am at € 1.603,-
so I might did something wrong...I also closed some sells with loss, alsmost the same amount which I made Profit with the buys...

so I have to do it better. but I might have something wrong in my plan to close the positions...

but thanks for the help!

Pitt Bull
No problem. Best of luck to you.
  • #736,559
  • Dec 20, 2012 4:01am Dec 20, 2012 4:01am
Quoting Pitt Bull
Thank You very much!

That is pretty close to what I did yesterday... when it was up at 1.33 something I hade € 2.000 in equity..

than I closed the buys when it went down...but now I am at € 1.603,-
so I might did something wrong...I also closed some sells with loss, alsmost the same amount which I made Profit with the buys...

so I have to do it better. but I might have something wrong in my plan to close the positions...

but thanks for the help!

Pitt Bull


don't forget each hedge position cost you spread (you already paid) don't just close it close it with close by/multiple close by option ,this will help to regain those spread
Mohan
  • #736,560
  • Dec 20, 2012 4:01am Dec 20, 2012 4:01am
Max, I am in love with the close...
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