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  • #734,041
  • Dec 17, 2012 12:19pm Dec 17, 2012 12:19pm
boooooooooooooooooooring lets me go back to my P
  • #734,042
  • Dec 17, 2012 12:19pm Dec 17, 2012 12:19pm
Quoting FX Wolf
if you were/are following my post do you remember 3076ish? no?

and on friday 3151/52ish? no?

draw two horizontal lines at above mentioned number


open 4hr tfs as i am not allowed to open charts below daily tfs if i ever try to open time frames lower than daily my system get jammed and alert pops up "access denied" , em not kidding post a 4hr or 8hr chart

and see the price pattern, ny closes below 3151/52ish i am out of longs
You have an Orwellian BIG BROTHER system?!?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nineteen_Eighty-Four
  • #734,043
  • Dec 17, 2012 12:20pm Dec 17, 2012 12:20pm
Lets wait and see where the daily will close - under 618 will be more than enough for now ...
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"It's the Margin, Stupid."
  • #734,044
  • Dec 17, 2012 12:23pm Dec 17, 2012 12:23pm
Quoting divak
best would even be trading before the fact... selling at the top, just before the big news down, etc...
hence, this happen often when all other guys says "you are wrong"
Most of us don't have that kind of foresight.
Not all sins are created equal
  • #734,045
  • Dec 17, 2012 12:25pm Dec 17, 2012 12:25pm
Quoting Jay Walker
Many confuse trading after the fact and trading during the fact.

Trading after the fact would be trading the Lincoln Savings & Loans crisis...today.

Trading during the fact would be trading while Draghi draghed his speech on.

Which is it?
Lincoln Savings & Loans crisis??
Draghi draghed his speech on.??





i consider "price" is the only "fact"
Wolves don't lose any sleep over the opinion of the sheep.
  • #734,046
  • Dec 17, 2012 12:27pm Dec 17, 2012 12:27pm
Quoting Jay Walker
Most of us don't have that kind of foresight.
sadly, though some HF guys have... or is it called insider info? haha
  • #734,047
  • Dec 17, 2012 12:27pm Dec 17, 2012 12:27pm
Quoting Vachus
Lets wait and see where the daily will close - under 618 will be more than enough for now ...
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fiber do like and respect the % 50 and % 23.4
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  • #734,048
  • Dec 17, 2012 12:28pm Dec 17, 2012 12:28pm
Quoting fxnav
S 3168

Covered for a whopping 10 pips, trade of the day..

Done with this ranging BS
The great majority are rarely capable of thinking independently.
  • #734,049
  • Dec 17, 2012 12:28pm Dec 17, 2012 12:28pm
Quoting EuroTrader
You have an Orwellian BIG BROTHER system?!?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nineteen_Eighty-Four
Mind to elaborate a bit? How does work with Re-encountering Julia?
  • #734,050
  • Dec 17, 2012 12:29pm Dec 17, 2012 12:29pm
http://imagebin.org/239703

saw this HFT pattern on tick chart common on stocks and such.

edit: seems like stuff quoting
  • #734,051
  • Dec 17, 2012 12:30pm Dec 17, 2012 12:30pm
Quoting Jay Walker
I actually trade from a rusty bathtub floating on the river Thames. Coincidentally, I use the same tub to make my own gin.
http://www.britishpathe.com/video/th...hastings-study


oh it's dawning on me. you must be related to Biddy the Tubman! He's a legend from Hastings who my father told me about
  • #734,052
  • Dec 17, 2012 12:30pm Dec 17, 2012 12:30pm
Quoting divak
sorry for asking again if u did post it before, but what would be your view this week?
are you confident in a consolidation around current levels or do you see any move up or down?
no i am not confident in anything.
you as a trader go looks at 100 moves. when we bounce on any tf.. what happens,, ... now since this happens more times, then not , is a bounce a trend? how far does that bounce go. bears and bulls want lower/higher many times at the same place.
those who can, do. those who cant, talk about those who can
  • #734,053
  • Dec 17, 2012 12:33pm Dec 17, 2012 12:33pm
Quoting kill56
fiber do like and respect the % 50 and % 23.4
It does , but the week itself looks a bit lite - the major events are in Wednesday and Thursday ... so, i'm not surprised !
"It's the Margin, Stupid."
  • #734,054
  • Dec 17, 2012 12:36pm Dec 17, 2012 12:36pm
Quoting FX Wolf
hi senior[

i let the profit run , which is hard

i trade after the fact
I don't think you got my point. Let me put in different words.

Whatever you do and whatever is your trading system, it will always have a predict pattern behind. It can be as fast as computer managed HFT algorithm or as sluggish as a newcomer trading manually a stochastic in M5 or macro fundamental trader forecasting the end of the world in a Yearly chart ...

Behind those plans there are always a "set of rules" that you define and they decide the "statistical outcome" (most of the newcomers don't have a clue about this) behind a trading plan. Despite the tools, Tfs, etc etc to define these rules, these decisions are always taken "before the fact" not after as you were implying in your last post. So your previous call is as predictive as any one else in here.

Moreover "letting the profit run" already implies that you made a forecasting decision before based on your plan for entry, and more importantly is that you will exit when another set of conditions trigger... In simple words, we traders, are all doing the same, we are minimizing the risk in the expectation of positive return without knowing the outcome that can only be proven after the fact ...

sisse
Pending conversations? PM for a chat...I am mainly in OTM now
  • #734,055
  • Dec 17, 2012 12:38pm Dec 17, 2012 12:38pm
Quoting divak
sorry for asking again if u did post it before, but what would be your view this week?
are you confident in a consolidation around current levels or do you see any move up or down?
punch in 3188 in a search after clicking my name in profile. use advanced. and scroll down to June. no change. you could also do one with "2008 chart" or "2008 ass chart".. scroll down to 2009.. peek at charts.
those who can, do. those who cant, talk about those who can
  • #734,056
  • Dec 17, 2012 12:42pm Dec 17, 2012 12:42pm
Quoting gatorinla
punch in 3188 in a search after clicking my name in profile. use advanced. and scroll down to June. no change. you could also do one with "2008 chart" or "2008 ass chart".. scroll down to 2009.. peek at charts.
ok thx
will take a look
  • #734,057
  • Dec 17, 2012 12:42pm Dec 17, 2012 12:42pm
Quoting divak
sadly, though some HF guys have... or is it called insider info? haha
It can be insider trading.

But I was actually thinking of a guy like Peter Schiff who was calling the end of the real estate bubble in the U.S. since 2006 (and maybe before). How many guys like him, who get laughed at and end up being right, are there? Not very many actually.
Not all sins are created equal
  • #734,058
  • Dec 17, 2012 12:42pm Dec 17, 2012 12:42pm
last h was a 4h close. it closed below 3156.8... she may be ready..
those who can, do. those who cant, talk about those who can
  • #734,059
  • Dec 17, 2012 12:44pm Dec 17, 2012 12:44pm
Quoting Jay Walker
It can be insider trading.

But I was actually thinking of a guy like Peter Schiff who was calling the end of the real estate bubble in the U.S. since 2006 (and maybe before). How many guys like him, who get laughed at and end up being right, are there? Not very many actually.

Joe Lewis is another one, he quietely made a few Bn trading Cable. Of course he is better knows for his fuckup with BS, which lost him a cool Bn, but that's for another day. The bit I like is that he made the most trading FX and then quit only to feck up just about everything else he started, except for the few brokerage houses he got going.
The great majority are rarely capable of thinking independently.
  • #734,060
  • Dec 17, 2012 12:46pm Dec 17, 2012 12:46pm
Quoting gatorinla
she may be ready..

Not quite, but we are looking at the same thing.
The great majority are rarely capable of thinking independently.
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