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  • #15,881
  • Dec 11, 2012 4:28am Dec 11, 2012 4:28am
Hello Evaluator, how are you doing today ??

I entered yesterday 3 times on Symphonie, everytime it gives me 10-15 pips then goes back to be...
I can't close on maximum profit with the rules listed. The strategy is really nice..
But I dono why it gives me too much break even on 5M chart
  • #15,882
  • Dec 11, 2012 5:02am Dec 11, 2012 5:02am
Quoting Benjie
Hello Evaluator, how are you doing today ??

I entered yesterday 3 times on Symphonie, everytime it gives me 10-15 pips then goes back to be...
I can't close on maximum profit with the rules listed. The strategy is really nice..
But I dono why it gives me too much break even on 5M chart
Then just take the 10 pips as your profit target.....as long as they are + pips to your account....does it really matter???

Evaluator.:nerd:
  • #15,883
  • Edited 6:58am Dec 11, 2012 5:49am | Edited 6:58am
I want to expand and show you how clean and simple Symphonie Matirx 4.4h really is when trading. Attached is the chart from the past 2 day. (timeframe 5 min). At each vertical line, there is Symphonie Signal produced, and it catch the entire moves of the markt. PLUS the retracement pullback!! The arrows without a vertical lines are optional entry points to add to a position with a pending order.

Why a pending order?

Easy....you avoid the whipsaw pullbacks that normally happens as price aktion begins to move and if it reverses then you have no loss order. Pending orders keep one with the trend versus chasing price aktion with a markt order. Let the markt come to you and hand you pips. It really is that simple.

As you can see...no messy renko or HA bars...no addon lines...just the Symphonie Matrix nothing else is need.....Your chart stays clean so you can see the price aktion and are able to better identify markt patterns and trends....

Symphonie Matrix 4.4h and markt price aktion.....simple, easy, profitable!

Evaluator.:nerd:

P.S. it does not repaint once a timebar is finished...it is in stone!
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  • #15,884
  • Dec 11, 2012 5:52am Dec 11, 2012 5:52am
Quoting Evaluator
No...Symphonie Matrix 4.4h is propietary and closed to open sourcing. It is my system and there was alot of work put into 4.4h and I do not wish it copied or code stolen to make some Frankenstein based on this code. There has been enough copying of Symphonie and others claiming it was their original idea.
A case may be made that the PSAR, WMA, CCI and MACD are not proprietary indicators and that using a combination of the PSAR, CCI, MACD and Moving Averages as the base for a trading system has been done before:
http://www.forexstrategiesresources....ving-averages/
http://strategy4forex.com/strategies...-and-psar.html
  • #15,885
  • Edited 8:09am Dec 11, 2012 5:54am | Edited 8:09am
Quoting Xaphod
A case may be made that the PSAR, WMA, CCI and MACD are not proprietary indicators and that using a combination of the PSAR, CCI, MACD and Moving Averages as the base for a trading system has been done before:
http://www.forexstrategiesresources....ving-averages/
http://strategy4forex.com/strategies...-and-psar.html
Xaphod,

I never said they were not. I do not wish to release code for 4.4h.

Evaluator.:nerd:
  • #15,886
  • Dec 11, 2012 5:56am Dec 11, 2012 5:56am
Why is there is so much complexity around these charts?

Please, please look at the charts in different time frames.

Make sure that you have a broker that allowas EUR/USD spread of 1 -1.5 pips.

That's it. Keep looking at dem charts.
  • #15,887
  • Dec 11, 2012 6:25am Dec 11, 2012 6:25am
Quoting Evaluator
I want to expand and show you how clean and simple Symphonie Matirx 4.4h really is when trading. Attached is the chart from the past 2 day. (timeframe 5 min). At each vertical line, there is Symphonie Signal produced, and it catch the entire moves of the markt. PLUS the retracement pullback!! The arrows without a vertical lines are optional entry points to add to a position with a pending order.

Why a pending order?

Easy....you avoid the whipsaw pullbacks that normally happens as price aktion begins to move and if it reverses...
Can you please post the setting, exact settings of the charts provided by you in 5M timeframe??
  • #15,888
  • Dec 11, 2012 6:27am Dec 11, 2012 6:27am
Quoting shaneo
Why is there is so much complexity around these charts?

Please, please look at the charts in different time frames.

Make sure that you have a broker that allowas EUR/USD spread of 1 -1.5 pips.

That's it. Keep looking at dem charts.
What do you mean ?? keep looking at the charts ?
  • #15,889
  • Dec 11, 2012 6:45am Dec 11, 2012 6:45am
Quoting Benjie
Can you please post the setting, exact settings of the charts provided by you in 5M timeframe??

see Post 15,842

Evaluator.:nerd:
  • #15,890
  • Dec 11, 2012 6:51am Dec 11, 2012 6:51am
Quoting Evaluator
see Post 15,842

Evaluator.:nerd:
I tried step 0.00057 setting with maximum 0.05
and step 0.002 setting with maximum 0.2

Both doesnt produce the same extreme signals !!
  • #15,891
  • Dec 11, 2012 7:04am Dec 11, 2012 7:04am
Quoting Benjie
I tried step 0.00057 setting with maximum 0.05
and step 0.002 setting with maximum 0.2

Both doesnt produce the same extreme signals !!

I do not know what more I can add...you have the indikator and my setting. Maybe modify your settings slightly up or down until they match. Because of mis matches in broker servers working on different levels of markt access or timezones or time calculations it is very possible to be one or two bars off but you should be very close.

Remember forex brokers are not the same. There are variances with different brokers.

Forex brokers truth. Trading platform time zones.


http://forexdarkside.com/forex-lesson-6-part-2

Evaluator.:nerd:
  • #15,892
  • Dec 11, 2012 7:06am Dec 11, 2012 7:06am
Quoting Evaluator
I do not know what more I can add...you have the indikator and my setting. Maybe modify your settings slightly up or down until they match. Because of mis matches in broker servers working on different levels of markt access or timezones or time calculations it is very possible to be one or two bars off but you should be very close.

Remember forex brokers are not the same. There are variances with different brokers.

Forex brokers truth. Trading platform time zones.


http://forexdarkside.com/forex-lesson-6-part-2

Evaluator.:nerd:...
I appreciate you trying to help, but can you tell me the exact setting that was used to produce this 5 min chart ??? and the broker that you used it on .... !!!

Please, I appreciate your answer !!
  • #15,893
  • Dec 11, 2012 7:10am Dec 11, 2012 7:10am
Quoting Benjie
I tried step 0.00057 setting with maximum 0.05
and step 0.002 setting with maximum 0.2

Both doesnt produce the same extreme signals !!
try 0.02 making the indikator more sensitive to change.
  • #15,894
  • Dec 11, 2012 7:31am Dec 11, 2012 7:31am
Quoting Evaluator
try 0.02 making the indikator more sensitive to change.
I tried yesterday for 4 hours, it never gives me a chart like yours...

Again I will ask you can you give me the EXACT SETTINGS from the chart you opened ??

because it seems like the best settings, and i tried too much couldn't reach anything....

I am talking about 5 min chart..
  • #15,895
  • Edited 8:10am Dec 11, 2012 7:58am | Edited 8:10am
Quoting Benjie
I tried yesterday for 4 hours, it never gives me a chart like yours...

Again I will ask you can you give me the EXACT SETTINGS from the chart you opened ??

because it seems like the best settings, and i tried too much couldn't reach anything....

I am talking about 5 min chart..
Benjie,

I do not know how much more clear than I can make it....THE SETTING I AM USING ARE IN Post 15,842.

But since you do not believe me here is a screenshot post of the setting from my 5 min chart.

THIS IS WHAT I AM USE!!!

Why you are having difficulty I have no idea..... You continue to ask the same question and I am telling you the same answer and it will not change.

Evaluator.:nerd:
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  • #15,896
  • Dec 11, 2012 8:05am Dec 11, 2012 8:05am
Started demo trading your 5 min. Symphonie System today. Very impressed so far. Thanks for everything Evaluator!
"If you won't risk the usual, you'll have to settle for the ordinary."
  • #15,897
  • Dec 11, 2012 8:06am Dec 11, 2012 8:06am
Quoting livethedream
Started demo trading your 5 min. Symphonie System today. Very impressed so far. Thanks for everything Evaluator!

I am glad you like it. Best of luck in trading.

Evaluator.:nerd:
  • #15,898
  • Dec 11, 2012 8:17am Dec 11, 2012 8:17am
no way these are the same indicators and same setting it shows this chart on 2 different brokers...
Can anyone tell me whats the problem, this system is good but i cant set it up correctly !!

Are these the 5 min settings ??
Can you tell me this chart is from which broker ?? and if there was anyother indicators linked to this matrix indicator ?
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  • #15,899
  • Dec 11, 2012 8:21am Dec 11, 2012 8:21am
Quoting livethedream
Started demo trading your 5 min. Symphonie System today. Very impressed so far. Thanks for everything Evaluator!
can you tell me your setting for the 5 min and post a chart please
  • #15,900
  • Dec 11, 2012 9:08am Dec 11, 2012 9:08am
Quoting Benjie
can you tell me your setting for the 5 min and post a chart please
Same as the one posted http://www.forexfactory.com/showthre...39#post6278639

Your chart/indicator looks the same as mine do.
"If you won't risk the usual, you'll have to settle for the ordinary."
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