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  • #729,941
  • Dec 10, 2012 11:26pm Dec 10, 2012 11:26pm
Quoting Kanzler
Usually the manipulation is to our benefit....and who knows what the real reason behind this without knowing the organization that sent the buy order. Just have to accept it and move on.
true

accepting we being wrong is very much important
The Phoenix Trader....
  • #729,942
  • Dec 10, 2012 11:28pm Dec 10, 2012 11:28pm
Quoting Kanzler
Usually the manipulation is to our benefit....

Protest in Greece over austerity measures caused by market manipulation.
http://www.csmonitor.com/var/ezflow_...e_full_600.jpg

More protest in Greece
http://static1.businessinsider.com/i...est-merkel.jpg

And more!
http://wa2.cdn.3news.co.nz/3news/AM/....jpg?width=460

This one is from Argentina where manipulation has, like in Greece, left people broke.
http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/...otests-008.jpg

So how is it to our benefit to be fisted like puppets?
Not all sins are created equal
  • #729,943
  • Dec 10, 2012 11:31pm Dec 10, 2012 11:31pm
Quoting Jay Walker
Protest in Greece over austerity measures caused by market manipulation.
http://www.csmonitor.com/var/ezflow_...e_full_600.jpg

More protest in Greece
http://static1.businessinsider.com/i...est-merkel.jpg

And more!
http://wa2.cdn.3news.co.nz/3news/AM/....jpg?width=460

This one is from Argentina where manipulation has, like in Greece, left people broke.
http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/...otests-008.jpg

So...
I'm sure he meant those who trades, people like us.

In an ideal world we wouldn't need money.
  • #729,944
  • Dec 10, 2012 11:32pm Dec 10, 2012 11:32pm
Quoting Jay Walker
Protest in Greece over austerity measures caused by market manipulation.

So how is it to our benefit to be fisted like puppets?
I meant more to the tune that the market is manipulated in that it isn't a random walk....banks and big players placing large orders at support/resistance. Without that we wouldn't have much to trade on.
  • #729,945
  • Dec 10, 2012 11:32pm Dec 10, 2012 11:32pm
It is right at a strong 50% fib retracement.

Also posting an earlier chart, because pa line hides that fib in the most recent snapshot.
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The Thief of Wall Street
  • #729,946
  • Dec 10, 2012 11:34pm Dec 10, 2012 11:34pm
Quoting CoolJL
I'm sure he meant those who trades, people like us.

In an ideal world we wouldn't need money.

And the Starbucks barista would have the same lifestyle as the doctor?

How is that equitable?
Not all sins are created equal
  • #729,947
  • Dec 10, 2012 11:35pm Dec 10, 2012 11:35pm
Quoting Chicky
It is right at a strong 50% fib retracement.

Also posting an earlier chart, because pa line hides that fib in the most recent snapshot.
What high and low are you using for that retracement?
  • #729,948
  • Dec 10, 2012 11:35pm Dec 10, 2012 11:35pm
Quoting Kanzler
I meant more to the tune that the market is manipulated in that it isn't a random walk....banks and big players placing large orders at support/resistance. Without that we wouldn't have much to trade on.
Same excuse used by Greenspan. Theft and fraud is OK because it brings liquidity to the market.
Not all sins are created equal
  • #729,949
  • Dec 10, 2012 11:38pm Dec 10, 2012 11:38pm
Quoting Jay Walker
And the Starbucks barista would have the same lifestyle as the doctor?

How is that equitable?

It's an ideal world, at least in my version, people would chose to do what ever they wish because there will be free labour and free energy through advances in technology.

Not anytime soon.
  • #729,950
  • Dec 10, 2012 11:39pm Dec 10, 2012 11:39pm
Quoting CoolJL
It's an ideal world, people would chose to do what ever they wish because there will be free labour and free energy through advances in technology.

Not anytime soon.
My leader, Kim Jong-Un will welcome you.

Oppa Pyongyang style.
Not all sins are created equal
  • #729,951
  • Dec 10, 2012 11:40pm Dec 10, 2012 11:40pm
Quoting Jay Walker
Same excuse used by Greenspan. Theft and fraud is OK because it brings liquidity to the market.
I have a lot of respect for you, and I apologize if I used careless wording. I think there's a big misunderstanding with what I said and how you're interpreting it, though. Never have I said theft and fraud are OK.
  • #729,952
  • Dec 10, 2012 11:42pm Dec 10, 2012 11:42pm
Quoting Kanzler
What high and low are you using for that retracement?
I don't have the figures, but these lines (marked with green arrows). 1.2952/55 is the mid
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The Thief of Wall Street
  • #729,953
  • Dec 10, 2012 11:44pm Dec 10, 2012 11:44pm
Quoting Kanzler
I have a lot of respect for you, and I apologize if I used careless wording. I think there's a big misunderstanding with what I said and how you're interpreting it, though. Never have I said theft and fraud are OK.
I know you didn't say that. But Greenspan did turn a blind eye at fraud on Wall Street and so did Bernanke.

There would be liquidity and trades without manipulation.
Not all sins are created equal
  • #729,954
  • Dec 10, 2012 11:44pm Dec 10, 2012 11:44pm
Quoting Jay Walker
My leader, Kim Jong-Un will welcome you.

Oppa Pyongyang style.
My greetings to dear leader Kim.
  • #729,955
  • Dec 10, 2012 11:46pm Dec 10, 2012 11:46pm
Quoting Chicky
I don't have the figures, but these lines (marked with green arrows). 1.2952/55 is the mid
Thanks for taking the time to illustrate, I appreciate it.
  • #729,956
  • Dec 10, 2012 11:47pm Dec 10, 2012 11:47pm
Had enough, 10pip + turned into 15pips - . Closing positions and going to bed. Happy trading to you all.
  • #729,957
  • Dec 10, 2012 11:50pm Dec 10, 2012 11:50pm
Quoting Jay Walker
My leader, Kim Jong-Un will welcome you.

Oppa Pyongyang style.
Hellenika?
The Thief of Wall Street
  • #729,958
  • Dec 10, 2012 11:52pm Dec 10, 2012 11:52pm
Quoting Chicky
Hellenika?
No.
Not all sins are created equal
  • #729,959
  • Dec 10, 2012 11:54pm Dec 10, 2012 11:54pm
Quoting Jay Walker
No.
Amerikano?
The Thief of Wall Street
  • #729,960
  • Dec 10, 2012 11:57pm Dec 10, 2012 11:57pm
Quoting Chicky
Amerikano?
No.
Not all sins are created equal
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