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  • #7,901
  • Nov 29, 2012 2:50am Nov 29, 2012 2:50am
Quoting fizmhd
hi .. can i use this indicators on mt5 ...
Unfortunately MT4 is not compatible with MT5, you'll need to have all the indicators re-coded in MQL5
  • #7,902
  • Nov 29, 2012 3:00am Nov 29, 2012 3:00am
Quoting Thoughts
Unfortunately MT4 is not compatible with MT5, you'll need to have all the indicators re-coded in MQL5
Thanks for the info.....I know nothing about MT5 at all
Doing what you like is Freedom. Liking what you do is Happiness.
  • #7,903
  • Nov 29, 2012 3:28am Nov 29, 2012 3:28am
Quoting realjumper
Thanks for the info.....I know nothing about MT5 at all
Something to bear in mind, not for now, but for the future as it will happen and probably sooner than anyone wants: eventually all MT4 platforms will stop and people will have to move to MT5, whether they are on demo or live trading. This happened many years ago when we were all 'pushed' out from MT3 to MT4 and it caused a huge amount of pain/anguish/tears....mainly because all the indicators had to be recoded from MQL-II to mq4 and there wasn't as many people around as Cody & Xaphod in those days! Getting used to MT4 was the easy part and yes they ran both platforms for a couple of years to help with the transition but it was still a pain and no, mq4/ex4 indicators won't run in MT5 and there won't be a program available to simply convert mq4/ex4 to MT5 either.
  • #7,904
  • Nov 29, 2012 3:34am Nov 29, 2012 3:34am
Quoting olivierforex
Something to bear in mind, not for now, but for the future as it will happen and probably sooner than anyone wants: eventually all MT4 platforms will stop and people will have to move to MT5, whether they are on demo or live trading. This happened many years ago when we were all 'pushed' out from MT3 to MT4 and it caused a huge amount of pain/anguish/tears....mainly because all the indicators had to be recoded from MQL-II to mq4 and there wasn't as many people around as Cody & Xaphod in those days! Getting used to MT4 was the easy part and...
Sounds like something Micro$oft would do......
Doing what you like is Freedom. Liking what you do is Happiness.
  • #7,905
  • Nov 29, 2012 3:54am Nov 29, 2012 3:54am
Quoting realjumper
Sounds like something Micro$oft would do......
It was no laughing matter and like everything else it's very hard to really imagine what you would do if your (Genesis)indicators/platform stopped working ... until it actually happens. Maybe things will be a bit different now as many more people have actual live trading accounts with MT4 brokers (and money talks) but like in trading I don't like to rely on hope lol
  • #7,906
  • Nov 29, 2012 4:12am Nov 29, 2012 4:12am
You know.....after that Gumrai meltdown the other day, I got to thinking over some things. The first thought I had was to just to not worry about it because that is bound to happen from time to time. Similarly, there have been the occasional 'experts' turning up, offering nothing but telling me to post my equity curve and almost accusing me of scamming. But in order to scam one has to offer something for a monetary return.....which I have never done and never will. The Forex Factory moderator has been made aware of this issue and is investigating.

But I also thought about why do I put so much energy into this thread, which sometimes causes me to miss entries, which pisses me off because I need to eat!! When people continually bitch and moan but never bother to read the thread I get annoyed.

Like I have said, quite a few times now......trading is a skill.....a trade if you like. It's not different to being a welder, plumber, doctor, lawyer, carpenter, nurse or ANY OTHER occupation. You HAVE TO put in the time to learn the trade, and you have accept that you will make mistakes along the way. That's life......and the cry babies such as we have seen here need to harden up and grow a back bone. There is no free lunch here!

Having said that, I know that learning the stochastic is the hardest thing here....I have never denied that. However, with patience and practice, the reward is worth the effort, because that 'Eureka' moment WILL come, sooner or later.

So anyway, I thought to myself, 'why do I bother?'........I have a win/loss rate of about 80%. Yes, yes, I know.....some muppet is going to call me a liar unless I show my account etc etc etc.....but guess what?.....I don't have to do that.....I don't have to prove anything to anyone. I don't care who believes or doesn't believe. Those that put in the long term effort will find out the truth for themselves.

I thought about not making any further effort here and just trading for myself, and to hell with the thread.

I thought about opening an MT4 account and showing a live Trade Explorer account to shut the disbelievers up.

I thought about adding a weekly pips total to my signature from next year, and when the muppets challenge me, I will produce my FXCM account details to back up my accrued pippage.

But I came full circle and realised that I don't owe anyone anything.....at all. I do what I do here, and with the help of the team many of you take the banks money, which is the whole point of the exercise!!

As I've said before, the team isn't idle and doing nothing, we are looking at ways to make things easier without affecting the reliability of the system, and there are a few subtle setting changes that the team will discuss over the next few months that might make a difference to the system and the ease of using it.

But one thing is very clear in my mind......I don't need to prove anything to anyone......if you don't like the system, move on. Don't ask me to provide live trades, I have done that many times and it costs me, because I need to focus and concentrate on earning my living and not babysitting people until my trades are safe, and no other opportunities are developing.

I am selling nothing. I and the team are putting in a lot of effort to help you.....if you don't like what you see, move on........but don't make demands of me because you will be expelled instantly from the thread.....and any more personal abuse like Gumrai's aimed at me or anyone else, will also earn you a suspension from Forex Factory until the moderators take whatever permanent action they deem necessary.

RJ
Doing what you like is Freedom. Liking what you do is Happiness.
  • #7,907
  • Nov 29, 2012 4:13am Nov 29, 2012 4:13am
Quoting olivierforex
It was no laughing matter and like everything else it's very hard to really imagine what you would do if your (Genesis)indicators/platform stopped working ... until it actually happens. Maybe things will be a bit different now as many more people have actual live trading accounts with MT4 brokers (and money talks) but like in trading I don't like to rely on hope lol
No I agree, it's a serious issue and I hope that Metatrader acts with a bit more responsibility when the migrate to MT5 one day.
Doing what you like is Freedom. Liking what you do is Happiness.
  • #7,908
  • Nov 29, 2012 4:43am Nov 29, 2012 4:43am
Quoting realjumper
You know.....after that Gumrai meltdown the other day, I got to thinking over some things. The first thought I had was to just to not worry about it because that is bound to happen from time to time. Similarly, there have been the occasional 'experts' turning up, offering nothing but telling me to post my equity curve and almost accusing me of scamming. But in order to scam one has to offer something for a monetary return.....which I have never done and never will. The Forex Factory moderator has been made aware of this issue and is investigating....

Well said,

I am so happy that you and the team are passing on your knowledge to us less experienced
I would hate it if this thread dried up because of people that want everything handed to them on a plate
  • #7,909
  • Nov 29, 2012 5:18am Nov 29, 2012 5:18am
Quoting realjumper
But in order to scam one has to offer something for a monetary return.....which I have never done and never will. But I also thought about why do I put so much energy into this thread, which sometimes causes me to miss entries, which pisses me off because I need to eat!! There is no free lunch here! Having said that, I know that learning the stochastic is the hardest thing here....I have never denied that. I don't have to prove anything to anyone. I don't care who believes or doesn't believe. Those that put in the long term effort will find out...
All good points (at least I get the bonus of being mistaken for a girl )
  • #7,910
  • Nov 29, 2012 5:33am Nov 29, 2012 5:33am
Quoting olivierforex
All good points (at least I get the bonus of being mistaken for a girl )
Hmmmmm..........that's never happened to me....I hope I'm not missing something good?
Doing what you like is Freedom. Liking what you do is Happiness.
  • #7,911
  • Nov 29, 2012 5:38am Nov 29, 2012 5:38am
Quoting realjumper
You know.....after that Gumrai meltdown the other day, I got to thinking over some things. The first thought I had was to just to not worry about it because that is bound to happen from time to time. Similarly, there have been the occasional 'experts' turning up, offering nothing but telling me to post my equity curve and almost accusing me of scamming. But in order to scam one has to offer something for a monetary return.....which I have never done and never will. The Forex Factory moderator has been made aware of this issue and is investigating.

But...
So true RJ thanks and keep up the good work.
  • #7,912
  • Nov 29, 2012 5:43am Nov 29, 2012 5:43am
Quote
ou know.....after that Gumrai meltdown the other day, I got to thinking over some things. The first thought I had was to just to not worry about it because that is bound to happen from time to time. Similarly, there have been the occasional 'experts' turning up, offering nothing but telling me to post my equity curve and almost accusing me of scamming. But in order to scam one has to offer something for a monetary return.....which I have never done and never will. The Forex Factory moderator has been made aware of this issue and is investigating...

I have learn a lot from this thread and from RJ and it really has turned my trading around.
I do not expect live trades or personal account details as I don't think this will make me successful. We need to look at ourselves, how we see the set ups, how we see the risk and how we see our accounts grow!
To be successful we have to look at ourselves and make friends with the demons inside.

After really struggling and loosing substantial amounts of £££'s, I really struggled to pull the trigger even when the trade was jumping out the monitor at me, but I know I am the only person who can change that. So I went back to Demo trading and have now moved on to trading a small live account. Everyday I am making small steps in the direction of success.

I do appreciate everything shared on this thread ....Thank you.... now it's up to me
Pattie
  • #7,913
  • Nov 29, 2012 5:47am Nov 29, 2012 5:47am
Quoting realjumper
You know.....after that Gumrai meltdown the other day, I got to thinking over some things. The first thought I had was to just to not worry about it because that is bound to happen from time to time. Similarly, there have been the occasional 'experts' turning up, offering nothing but telling me to post my equity curve and almost accusing me of scamming. But in order to scam one has to offer something for a monetary return.....which I have never done and never will. The Forex Factory moderator has been made aware of this issue and is investigating....
RJ...
  • #7,914
  • Nov 29, 2012 5:49am Nov 29, 2012 5:49am
Quoting realjumper
You know.....after that Gumrai meltdown the other day, I got to thinking over some things. The first thought I had was to just to not worry about it because that is bound to happen from time to time. Similarly, there have been the occasional 'experts' turning up, offering nothing but telling me to post my equity curve and almost accusing me of scamming. But in order to scam one has to offer something for a monetary return.....

RJ
Hi RJ, thanks for sharing your thoughts. My trading has been helped tremendously by this thread. I am not the fastest learner but having said that since I started following/reading the thread, plus Babypips, back in August I have seen many improvements with my trading.
Yes, stochastics are a bit of a trip but what to do? they are a great part of the system and i am learning a great deal from them.(especially seeing how they work having done the blank template test) So, again thanks to you, the team and this thread my trading is getting better.

hope you enjoy "The April Sun in Cuba"

cheers, Ta Hui
  • #7,915
  • Nov 29, 2012 5:51am Nov 29, 2012 5:51am
Quoting Pattie
I have learn a lot from this thread and from RJ and it really has turned my trading around.
I do not expect live trades or personal account details as I don't think this will make me successful. We need to look at ourselves, how we see the set ups, how we see the risk and how we see our accounts grow!
To be successful we have to look at ourselves and make friends with the demons inside.

After really struggling and loosing substantial amounts of £££'s, I really struggled to pull the trigger even when the trade was jumping out the monitor at me,...
Thank you for your support everyone. Just like Pattie says, most of this trading business comes from within yourself. You have all the tools to succeed. The rest takes time. I almost quite trading once because I just cold see the trades when other people seemed to see them easily. I was 'rescued' by a great trader until I got that 'Eureka' moment. It will come....it will. Eventually you may decide that you can customise the system to better suit yourself like Martyfish has done.......that's great......but we all have to start at the start line with the same set of tools until we reach that magic moment

And for what it's worth......I will post a live trade every now and then, but it's up to me when I do it!
Doing what you like is Freedom. Liking what you do is Happiness.
  • #7,916
  • Nov 29, 2012 5:53am Nov 29, 2012 5:53am
Quoting Ta Hui
Hi RJ, thanks for sharing your thoughts. My trading has been helped tremendously by this thread. I am not the fastest learner but having said that since I started following/reading the thread, plus Babypips, back in August I have seen many improvements with my trading.
Yes, stochastics are a bit of a trip but what to do? they are a great part of the system and i am learning a great deal from them.(especially seeing how they work having done the blank template test) So, again thanks to you, the team and this thread my trading is getting better....
Thank you

Yep, the no candles template is a great tool and everyone should do it every weekend....it works!!!

Ahhhh......"The April Sun in Cuba".......RIP Marc Hunter
Doing what you like is Freedom. Liking what you do is Happiness.
  • #7,917
  • Nov 29, 2012 6:27am Nov 29, 2012 6:27am
Quoting realjumper
Thank you

Ahhhh......"The April Sun in Cuba".......RIP Marc Hunter
I wondered if you would get it......
  • #7,918
  • Nov 29, 2012 6:56am Nov 29, 2012 6:56am
Quoting Ta Hui
I wondered if you would get it......
I think most Kiwi's know that song......and what a great song
Doing what you like is Freedom. Liking what you do is Happiness.
  • #7,919
  • Nov 29, 2012 7:50am Nov 29, 2012 7:50am
I am recently interested in trading at 15 min chart. I remember Olivia used to trade at 15 min chart. Does anyone see any benefits or better performance at 15 min chart?

Thanks
Justin
Simplicity is the ultimate sophistication - Leonardo da Vinci
  • #7,920
  • Nov 29, 2012 7:55am Nov 29, 2012 7:55am
Hi o/

I open sell eur/usd now :
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