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  • #722,661
  • Nov 26, 2012 7:32pm Nov 26, 2012 7:32pm
Quoting mohan76
did you never seen a Greek before ? they are hard workers , come to Australia, i can show you how hard they working

ps i am not a greek
i agree.. working has nothing to do with race or nation..

P.S. Im not Greek too.. and I agree mate.. Downunder is a place where you can see all good and bad "things' on any nation /race
  • #722,662
  • Nov 26, 2012 7:32pm Nov 26, 2012 7:32pm
Quoting mohan76
yep , there is only one permanant solution, which is all European county/whole world default and restart
Ripple effect!!
Even the worst trade can close with profit. Just give it time.
  • #722,663
  • Nov 26, 2012 7:33pm Nov 26, 2012 7:33pm
Quoting mohan76
did you ever seen a Greek before ? they are hard workers , come to Australia, i can show you how hard they working

ps i am not a greek


Abroad may be, but not here in EU! Here is home were you just party with the money coming from Europe without having to pay taxes or work!!! lolz


PS: I am living in Cyprus, quite closely to Greece and I have bigger sample for my observations!
Me no Greek either!
Price = the amount a greater fool is willing to pay!
  • #722,664
  • Nov 26, 2012 7:34pm Nov 26, 2012 7:34pm
Quoting Piters


The Last ECB News... See in HERE
Always looking the GREAT, never left GOOD Point...
  • #722,665
  • Nov 26, 2012 7:39pm Nov 26, 2012 7:39pm
Quoting Pip-hunter

Abroad may be, but not here in EU! Here is home were you just party with the money coming from Europe without having to pay taxes or work!!! lolz


PS: I am living in Cyprus, quite closely to Greece and I have bigger sample for my observations!
Me no Greek either!
Yeah, same in New Zealand, party up on government handouts.
Now we wonder why we have public debt?
Even the worst trade can close with profit. Just give it time.
  • #722,666
  • Nov 26, 2012 7:41pm Nov 26, 2012 7:41pm
Quoting Tsar


The Last ECB News... See in HERE
sure.. i know mate.. 10x for the link anyway..

already known thing.. refinancing long term, but the fight was on collateral, and technicality of securing the new loan.. there is no free lunch..

some arm twisting.. and here we are.. 43 bl in 3 [with BOLD conditions] tranches..

great.. if you ask me.. at least we are rolling the dices..

already closed my EUR.. but still long in GU//

the most important thing is at least there is a hope for markets..
  • #722,667
  • Nov 26, 2012 7:44pm Nov 26, 2012 7:44pm
Quoting Piters
sure.. i know mate.. 10x for the link anyway..

already known thing.. refinancing long term, but the fight was on collateral, and technicality of securing the new loan.. there is no free lunch..

some arm twisting.. and here we are.. 43 bl in 3 [with BOLD conditions] tranches..

great.. if you ask me.. at least we are rolling the dices..

already closed my EUR.. but still long in GU//

the most important thing is at least there is a hope for markets..
So, basically they decided to re-write the conditions for the tranches and give a little bit more time?!?!?
Price = the amount a greater fool is willing to pay!
  • #722,668
  • Nov 26, 2012 7:45pm Nov 26, 2012 7:45pm
I can see only one way for this shit now and it is down.
  • #722,669
  • Nov 26, 2012 7:46pm Nov 26, 2012 7:46pm
Quoting Pip-hunter
So, basically they decided to re-write the conditions for the tranches and give a little bit more time?!?!?
exactly the same BEN did.. operation twist..

refinancing current ones on longer term.. just to wipe some pressure of the bonds.
  • #722,670
  • Nov 26, 2012 7:46pm Nov 26, 2012 7:46pm
Quoting Big1red9
your right... sorry tired

1.3020
out at 2990
  • #722,671
  • Nov 26, 2012 7:46pm Nov 26, 2012 7:46pm
Quoting Nachiket
I can see only one way for this shit now and it is down.

enough of upside since august and enough of bullshitty news. I hope the fed muppets don't come and announce some QEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
  • #722,672
  • Nov 26, 2012 7:49pm Nov 26, 2012 7:49pm
Quoting Piters
exactly the same BEN did.. operation twist..

refinancing current ones on longer term.. just to wipe some pressure of the bonds.

Then Who is the bigger evil?

seems things balance out between the EU and US in a bad bad way...
Price = the amount a greater fool is willing to pay!
  • #722,673
  • Nov 26, 2012 7:50pm Nov 26, 2012 7:50pm
Quoting Pip-hunter
Then Who is the bigger evil?

seems things balance out between the EU and US in a bad bad way...
let me ask you a question:

Do you have a better Solution ?? or even better..

What do you think.. how we are going to fix the markets ??
  • #722,674
  • Nov 26, 2012 7:55pm Nov 26, 2012 7:55pm
Quoting Piters
let me ask you a question:

Do you have a better Solution ?? or even better..

What do you think.. how we are going to fix the markets ??
Ask Cloggie this question, better

IMHO, scratch everything and start over! New beginning = New hope!

And on that bombshell I am going to hit the sack
Price = the amount a greater fool is willing to pay!
  • #722,675
  • Nov 26, 2012 7:55pm Nov 26, 2012 7:55pm
Quoting Piters
let me ask you a question:

Do you have a better Solution ?? or even better..

What do you think.. how we are going to fix the markets ??
we are not going to fix the markets by pumping in more debt. then people worry about fiscal cliff and all. bullshit. the mess US is in is created because of bernanke and his muppets pumping more money in retail hands who don't know how to make use of it. overleverage for fast results and eventually lose alll the money plus debt.
  • #722,676
  • Nov 26, 2012 7:58pm Nov 26, 2012 7:58pm
Quoting Pip-hunter
Ask Cloggie this question, better

IMHO, scratch everything and start over! New beginning = New hope!

And on that bombshell I am going to hit the sack
Yes, problems with future leaders of the world..

I go to one of the top Business Schools, people there singing the alphabet as they cannot figure out if their last name sits between G and M.

You might laugh but that isn't a joke
Even the worst trade can close with profit. Just give it time.
  • #722,677
  • Nov 26, 2012 8:00pm Nov 26, 2012 8:00pm
Quoting mohan76
so far not enough reaction to news , yen$ loosing ground , euro back below 1.30 make me worry , all ladies above my bull zone
Maize/corn waiting on both side , soon we will have pop corn
hahaha pop corn, could be plop corn to bro hahaha 130 00 - 130 20 was always going be a big battle field bull has do nice rally yes <4hr but daily & weekly is saying bears still in control and driving this train

eu summit as always is full of promises and hot air, I think her capped for now, when dust is settle (only little dust too) bears will be back on track, min 500pips
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  • #722,678
  • Nov 26, 2012 8:01pm Nov 26, 2012 8:01pm
Quoting Nachiket
we are not going to fix the markets by pumping in more debt. then people worry about fiscal cliff and all. bullshit. the mess US is in is created because of bernanke and his muppets pumping more money in retail hands who don't know how to make use of it. overleverage for fast results and eventually lose alll the money plus debt.
It's a funny one. Need some new textbooks as the well thought out theories haven't worked. Printing money is meant to lead to inflation or growth. Haven't had either..

Obamas take is he stopped another great depression, other side is the money didn't get put in the right areas.

Too many problems in todays economy, soon will end when Asia takes over..
Even the worst trade can close with profit. Just give it time.
  • #722,679
  • Nov 26, 2012 8:03pm Nov 26, 2012 8:03pm
Quoting Nachiket
we are not going to fix the markets by pumping in more debt. then people worry about fiscal cliff and all. bullshit. the mess US is in is created because of bernanke and his muppets pumping more money in retail hands who don't know how to make use of it. overleverage for fast results and eventually lose alll the money plus debt.
Quoting Pip-hunter
Ask Cloggie this question, better

IMHO, scratch everything and start over! New beginning = New hope!

And on that bombshell I am going to hit the sack


lol.. then.. when you criticizing.. you better be ready for a solution or an idea at least...

not defending the outcomes, or the methods.. to say.. but

scratching all and starting from 0 is not an answer, not good at all.. and if [when] you look back and with litlle bit deeper analysis. you'll see that that action will produce an enormous social unrest globally and very likely a global war..

Social securities, pensions, and pension funds are directly involved in investing and supporting the markets [akka creating the growth or at least hedging the current inflation].. Killing or wiping the markets, you are actually creating an anarchy. Pumping money into the markets is not a permanent fix.. BUT

when you have a disparity [inbalance] between revenues and expenses, and running negative budget balances.. a combination of BOTH

austerities and Easing is a way to go..

cheers..
  • #722,680
  • Nov 26, 2012 8:10pm Nov 26, 2012 8:10pm
Quoting Piters
lol.. then.. when you criticizing.. you better be ready for a solution or an idea at least...

not defending the outcomes, or the methods.. to say.. but

scratching all and starting from 0 is not an answer, not good at all.. and if [when] you look back and with litlle bit deeper analysis. you'll see that that action will produce an enormous social unrest globally and very likely a global war..

Social securities, pensions, and pension funds are directly involved in investing and supporting the markets.. Killing or wiping the markets, you are actually...
Very true, can't just tell Asia they are never getting their money back.

Need to get businessmen in power, reduce unnecessary spending, manage transfers, increase efficiency through streamlined BP's, get one person to do 1 job rather then 3 people, all that sort of stuff.

Raising taxes alone won't work which is typically an answer..
Even the worst trade can close with profit. Just give it time.
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