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  • #41,401
  • Nov 24, 2012 8:49pm Nov 24, 2012 8:49pm
Quoting SCopier
For me, Sonic R is simple but sometime made me confused too, so I added HAS 240 for my trendAttachment
I think your wave is... off... your z fractal isn't getting all the wave patterns.
I suggest using the z fractal found in sonicrv3
  • #41,402
  • Nov 24, 2012 10:39pm Nov 24, 2012 10:39pm
Tah,

Is it possible to add a NY close line or asian session open line to the sonic control panel?
  • #41,403
  • Nov 25, 2012 1:23am Nov 25, 2012 1:23am
Quoting romstreets
To be fair, I kinda get have Steve teaches about. It is an intuition thing. I spend at least 1 to 2 hours just looking at charts trying to understand what is really going on in the market before I decide whether there is a trade for me on the day. Total I would spend more than 6 hours looking at charts. Maybe it will sound insane to most people. But I have tried hell a lot of methods for the past 4 years, mentors or guru such as Bill Poulos, Hector, Raghee, Vic Noble, Peter Bain, MacX, John Bolingger, Steve Nison, Andrew Cardwell you name it, I...
".... I only put volume, daily pivots and worktime on my chart and i am able to trade from there...." - romstreets

Sounds a little like the Sonic R. System; PA, Dragon, Trend, a bit of volume and trade the London session. Of course the SonicR Control Panel includes such niceties as whole number subdivision levels, time zone shiftable pivots and daily range lines to help confirm best historic S&R levels for targets, and of course the marking of the London open, US open and London close to help you stay in the proper "work time".
  • #41,404
  • Edited 3:41am Nov 25, 2012 2:49am | Edited 3:41am
Quoting worldfreedom
Tah,

Is it possible to add a NY close line or asian session open line to the sonic control panel?
Yes it is. But when I used to have vLines for the opens for Sydney, Tokyo, US stock exchange, all of them, it was just too much. If more than just the current session of vLines were displayed it turned the chart into something that looked very "blocky". It worked against being able to focus on PA. We really only need to mark the LS span with vLines. The clock is in the SonicR Control Panel so you can know when any market opens that you are also interested in, just by including its representative city in the clock. And Syndey, which marks the start of the LS is already set up in the clock. Won't that work for you?

I've experimentally coded this back in (see pics.) to show you it is not too bad if just the current session of vLines is displayed. For this broker, the Asian Open vLines fall where the day separators would, which I never use in order to keep the chart as clear as possible. You can see how "busy" the chart gets when vLines for previous sessions are displayed, once even this one extra vLine is included. Just compare pic2. to pic3.

Edit: Added chart for broker at GMT (pic4.)
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  • #41,405
  • Edited 3:17am Nov 25, 2012 2:52am | Edited 3:17am
Quoting SCopier
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Bad move. The whole idea is for traders to clean all the crap off their charts and get used to looking at PA waves, so in time they will get to know good ones from the rest, by virtue of shape and relationship to S&R! Stop relying on additional technicals if you want to mature as a trader. It is sort of like forever riding a bicycle with training wheels! Grow out of it, or never reach your full potential.
  • #41,406
  • Nov 25, 2012 3:18am Nov 25, 2012 3:18am
Quoting romstreets
To be fair, I kinda get have Steve teaches about. It is an intuition thing. I spend at least 1 to 2 hours just looking at charts trying to understand what is really going on in the market before I decide whether there is a trade for me on the day. Total I would spend more than 6 hours looking at charts. Maybe it will sound insane to most people. But I have tried hell a lot of methods for the past 4 years, mentors or guru such as Bill Poulos, Hector, Raghee, Vic Noble, Peter Bain, MacX, John Bolingger, Steve Nison, Andrew Cardwell you name it, I...
My gripe is not with the validity of a methodology but with individuals who set out to fleece the gullible with the sale of a repackaged methodology.
  • #41,407
  • Nov 25, 2012 3:25am Nov 25, 2012 3:25am
Quoting hansma
Sorry for the confusion. It is a simple way for me to confirm if a normal 123 setup will hold, both for longs and shorts and even possible trend changes, as this pattern normally occurs at the lows or highs just before the trend might change direction. Look at the failed 123 as a warning signal that a trend change might be coming and you should wait and watch price action before entering new orders with the old trend.

This is why I use the 2 candles must close below or above point 2 (H or L) to tell me if it was a break of the last high/low or...
Hansma, thank you very much for clarifying your post. I can see you put time and care into producing an explanation with more detail. I appreciate what you have done, and am sure everyone else here does also.
  • #41,408
  • Nov 25, 2012 11:08am Nov 25, 2012 11:08am
why not
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  • #41,409
  • Nov 25, 2012 2:53pm Nov 25, 2012 2:53pm
I finally get to sit down at ls on a night schedule!! I'll be able to follow the thread better live.
  • #41,410
  • Edited 3:40pm Nov 25, 2012 3:27pm | Edited 3:40pm
Quoting edyseunong
why not
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Why not what? This is an example of a fruitless, waste of time post. If you have something to say, then say it! Don't just post a chart with a bunch of "stuff" on it as if the meaning of that "stuff" would be crystal clear to those who see it. What is your point? Make it, or leave the space free for someone else to post something meaningful.

Why not? Once again, apparently it is necessary to remind that the Sonic R. System is about learning to read PA waves; their form and their relationship to S&R. It is not about a bunch of folk's favorite "technicals" to be added so that the task of learning to trade without them can be avoided.

Thanks,
-tah
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  • #41,411
  • Nov 25, 2012 5:11pm Nov 25, 2012 5:11pm
Quoting traderathome
Why not what? This is an example of a fruitless, waste of time post. If you have something to say, then say it! Don't just post a chart with a bunch of "stuff" on it as if the meaning of that "stuff" would be crystal clear to those who see it. What is your point? Make it, or leave the space free for someone else to post something meaningful.

Why not? Once again, apparently it is necessary to remind that the Sonic R. System is about learning to read PA waves; their form and their relationship to S&R. It is not about a bunch of folk's favorite...
S&R really seem key to this system... Just blindly trading the dragon without that key does not seem anywhere near as consistent...
I'll have to work on this for a few months.... or a year... or two... persistence....

-CPT Obvious
  • #41,412
  • Nov 25, 2012 7:39pm Nov 25, 2012 7:39pm
Quoting dafox1
S&R really seem key to this system... Just blindly trading the dragon without that key does not seem anywhere near as consistent...
I'll have to work on this for a few months.... or a year... or two... persistence....

-CPT Obvious

CORRECT!
  • #41,413
  • Nov 25, 2012 7:54pm Nov 25, 2012 7:54pm
Quoting traderathome
".... I only put volume, daily pivots and worktime on my chart and i am able to trade from there...." - romstreets

Sounds a little like the Sonic R. System; PA, Dragon, Trend, a bit of volume and trade the London session. Of course the SonicR Control Panel includes such niceties as whole number subdivision levels, time zone shiftable pivots and daily range lines to help confirm best historic S&R levels for targets, and of course the marking of the London open, US open and London close to help you stay in the proper "work time".

Hey man, Thanks for your reply. i love this Sonic R. system because it uses PA and other technical stuffs like dragon and volume to assist decision making. I uses box "work time" for personal preference.

I quick question here, the daily range is it ADR? Sometimes I uses ADR period 5 (one week) to project targets. I am not familiar with the SonicR Control Panel. But I really like the Control Panel, I just waiting for the new release from you!!
  • #41,414
  • Nov 25, 2012 8:05pm Nov 25, 2012 8:05pm
Quoting Mingary
My gripe is not with the validity of a methodology but with individuals who set out to fleece the gullible with the sale of a repackaged methodology.
You gotta learn what you want to learn. If you don't like the sale repackage methodology then you find your way to obtain that materials without paying. You know, you can get anything from the internet and I am sure someone who don't like Steve gonna leak all these materials out.
  • #41,415
  • Nov 25, 2012 8:20pm Nov 25, 2012 8:20pm
see long in cable like in eur ----

maybe some shorts scalps possible - but in longterm i wouldnt be surbprised if we will see 1.66++

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do it for ya self

truth on the table

alll is longterm

enigma4x
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enjoy my life ... and ride the waves - all what I do
  • #41,416
  • Nov 25, 2012 8:28pm Nov 25, 2012 8:28pm
Quoting romstreets
Hey man, Thanks for your reply. i love this Sonic R. system because it uses PA and other technical stuffs like dragon and volume to assist decision making. I uses box "work time" for personal preference.

I quick question here, the daily range is it ADR? Sometimes I uses ADR period 5 (one week) to project targets. I am not familiar with the SonicR Control Panel. But I really like the Control Panel, I just waiting for the new release from you!!
Read the User Notes (as instructed in releasing post) to learn about the special computations for range.
  • #41,417
  • Nov 26, 2012 12:08am Nov 26, 2012 12:08am
I have different charts for GU at this time .

FXOpen have price 1.6025


Anyway, is this a SHORT setup for GU ? GU had strong up move before.
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Keep Simple...!
  • #41,418
  • Nov 26, 2012 12:17am Nov 26, 2012 12:17am
So even though post one says m5 or m15, we use m15 now bc it is more consistent set ups?
I searched the thread and couldn't find any definitive answer...
  • #41,419
  • Nov 26, 2012 12:56am Nov 26, 2012 12:56am
Quoting dafox1
So even though post one says m5 or m15, we use m15 now bc it is more consistent set ups?
I searched the thread and couldn't find any definitive answer...
The primary trading chart TF is M15. Some do M5 sometimes, but these would tend to be least risky if done after the LS gets underway. Definately more risky outside of LS altogether.
  • #41,420
  • Nov 26, 2012 12:57am Nov 26, 2012 12:57am
Quoting traderathome
The primary trading chart TF is M15. Some do M5 sometimes, but these would tend to be least risky if done after the LS gets underway. Definately more risky outside of LS altogether.
Thank you TAH.
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