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  • #713,001
  • Oct 31, 2012 11:12pm Oct 31, 2012 11:12pm
Quoting mercy seat
Okay ...

Those guys from trading central use an own kind of pivots approach ...

Not the usual one ...

They might invent their own kind of calculation - which is not that much unfamilliar ...

But they come to a decision - and they suggest a strategy with some merit behind ...

And yes 24-hours central pivot is at around 1.2975 area ...

But pivots alone is nothing ...

You must have a keen eye to all key-points ...

The summary of all of them makes the concert ...

Mkt is set for another attempt to the upside ...

Probably might fail...



what/where is "trading central"?


PS: that pivot looks a lot like that POC (point of control) in the "market profile" thread. Sum_1 posts the chart for that all the time. interesting... any connection there?
  • #713,002
  • Oct 31, 2012 11:14pm Oct 31, 2012 11:14pm
Quoting 1candlepower
what/where is "trading central"?
#713010

That's the name of the provider of that TA there ...

TA which that member posted there ...

But as I did say it is incomplete ...

Member Typhoane could have posted the full origin TA there ...

Would have been more useful ...




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2013-07-31 Today's Phrase of the Day: Hold off from any recycle bin experts
  • #713,003
  • Oct 31, 2012 11:21pm Oct 31, 2012 11:21pm
ohhh nice, tnx for that. . Now my question is who's the people on RISK mode ON/OFF? Are those traders the market movers ? If that is the case then thats a good indicator of risk if not then why should I consider a market Risk on/off when the traders executing positions are small under capitalized traders?

Quoting 1candlepower
easy answer - i have a screen which shows all majors and some other assets in great detail (small tiled charts in Quotetracker w/which i have a love/hate relation!) and whenever the market goes "risk on", i can tell immediately: the /usd pairs all rise and the usd/ pairs fall (except for usd/jpy which usually rises) and of course DJI and ES rise (CL is often a mystery!). each one has it's little quirks that show themselves occasionally, but it's a pretty good indication of risk state.
  • #713,004
  • Oct 31, 2012 11:26pm Oct 31, 2012 11:26pm
Quoting mercy seat
#713010

That's the name of the provider of that TA there ...

TA which that member posted there ...

But as I did say it is incomplete ...

Member Typhoane could have posted the full origin TA there ...

Would have been more useful ...




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ummm... i googled it and found:

- www.tradercentral.com
- www.onlinetradercentral.com
- www.thetradercentral.com

am i in the right area?
  • #713,005
  • Oct 31, 2012 11:28pm Oct 31, 2012 11:28pm
I know what that RISK ON/OFF means but, I don't like it really. Come on really now. Every time I put capital in the market it's at RISK. LOL! You know what I mean.

GL All!
Cheers

Quoting gino32
ohhh nice, tnx for that. . Now my question is who's the people on RISK mode ON/OFF? Are those traders the market movers ? If that is the case then thats a good indicator of risk if not then why should I consider a market Risk on/off when the traders executing positions are small under capitalized traders?
  • #713,006
  • Oct 31, 2012 11:34pm Oct 31, 2012 11:34pm
Took long @ 2962 with target around 1.3000.
When Scalpers win, I lose and Vice varsa...
  • #713,007
  • Edited 11:45pm Oct 31, 2012 11:34pm | Edited 11:45pm
Quoting gino32
ohhh nice, tnx for that. . Now my question is who's the people on RISK mode ON/OFF? Are those traders the market movers ? If that is the case then thats a good indicator of risk if not then why should I consider a market Risk on/off when the traders executing positions are small under capitalized traders?
if i understood how that worked in that much detail, i'd be richer than bill gates right now... lately (last 2 - 3 years?) all assets frequently move together (i guess because the world has become so nutty that investors are driven by broad fears)... i remember 4 - 5 years ago, reading the effect of earnings release was very complicated / same with political news, cb statements, etc. it had many dimensions...

now there is one dimension: safety (lack of fear) and fear ie, (risk on and risk off)



ps: i see little miss .eu is playing dead now... she looks like she's rolling over for anyone who may be tempted to short her! she's saying: "go ahead! short me! you'll love it!"
  • #713,008
  • Oct 31, 2012 11:35pm Oct 31, 2012 11:35pm
Quoting 1candlepower
ummm... i googled it and found:

- www.tradercentral.com
- www.onlinetradercentral.com
- www.thetradercentral.com

am i in the right area?
mercy seat, aahmad29, Die Hard, 1candlepower, Invisible, gino32, disegnosys, fighterdude, Invisible, Trader2000, KCV, DaveXXXX, Meganathan, angelscap, rungun, kinsey, richy, Hafizal59, k3nshinz3139, eliteincome, pippenn, mohan76, dic111, simplecoders, Invisible, Typhoan, Rouby, Quickiepip


Ask member Typhoan

He should be able to post full size and origin TA ...

Trading central is a generic TA provider for many financial platforms like Alpari or FXCM or whatever you want ...

Most of our members here do have access to that ...

You can assume 70% of members have it on their platforms ...




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  • #713,009
  • Oct 31, 2012 11:38pm Oct 31, 2012 11:38pm
Quoting mercy seat
mercy seat, aahmad29, Die Hard, 1candlepower, Invisible, gino32, disegnosys,...


ok. now i get it. thanx!
  • #713,010
  • Oct 31, 2012 11:40pm Oct 31, 2012 11:40pm
The way I look at is just try to keep it simple. Find a few good setups just take it and use good MM. The whole market is BS and setup to take our money and mainly from the ones who don't know how to trade. Most info of what you need is in the charts. Use higher TFs for S/R levels and look for M and W patterns.

Cheers


Quoting 1candlepower
if i understood how that worked in that much detail, i'd be richer than bill gates right now... lately (last 2 - 3 years?) all assets frequently move together (i guess because the world has become so nutty that investors are driven by broad fears)... i remember 4 - 5 years ago, reading the effect of earnings release was very complicated / same with political news, cb statements, etc. it had many dimensions...

now there are 2 dimensions: safety and fear (risk on and risk off)
  • #713,011
  • Oct 31, 2012 11:40pm Oct 31, 2012 11:40pm
well that is someway to define risk, but in finance risk is defined by Volatility. Risk On should mean I would accept more volatility that means buy more Higher Yield assets. But the question is, Are "market movers" really accepting(buying) more volatility ->as of higher yield assets or not?

Quoting disegnosys
I know what that RISK ON/OFF means but, I don't like it really. Come on really now. Every time I put capital in the market it's at RISK. LOL! You know what I mean.

GL All!
Cheers
  • #713,012
  • Oct 31, 2012 11:41pm Oct 31, 2012 11:41pm
Quoting Sharpee
I may be wrong but i am seeing support of Euro /usd on all fronts. Attached is my chart. Fib lines, trend lines all coincide with the uptick of the MACD.

SHARPEE, You actually are very sharp. But may I say, in my 15 yrs following mArkets and being in prop and trading rooms, not only did I never see anyone make money with slanted trend lines, but a very respected author and interviewer of great traders said..."In all my life, I never saw one person who is a pro trader use sloping trend lines." He goes on to say that once youve discovered the trend with 3 touches it no longer is a playable trend. This was proved by traders using it that are now driving a cab. However..........flat horizontal trend lines he says are another story. I agree, and in fact if you use fibs, you have to use horizontal lines. Would you think about what I said, and tell me if you know any professional who will be an example to dispute what I just said. Otherwise, I love your charts!

Silat
  • #713,013
  • Oct 31, 2012 11:46pm Oct 31, 2012 11:46pm
Oh, on anorther subject, whenever I see higher highs2x and also see lower lows in the same amount of bars, it usually means there will be nothing but aimless trading and stop outs in store for the longs and the shorts. In other words,just sideways action. I see this on my 2hr chart for eur/usd. Anyone agree with my theory? Less than 18% of the time will you see a sustained move of any kind for the next 24 hrs or often days. worse case: lots of 10-20 pip fakeouts and then back again, and back again,etc. THE HOUSE GETS IT ALL!!!!!
  • #713,014
  • Oct 31, 2012 11:46pm Oct 31, 2012 11:46pm
Sometime I wonder why all those guys do not show more of those clean an simple things ...

Is really ten times of more value than all those useless theories they talk about all day long ...

Just read such major themes ... and nothing else ...

The market do have only two directions to make money with ...

Come to a decision and come to it at the right point of time ...

That's all you need ...

Switch of all that noise there ... and only listen to the market ... not to anyone else ...

Quoting 1candlepower
ok. now i get it. thanx!
Null problemo!


2013-07-31 Today's Phrase of the Day: Hold off from any recycle bin experts
  • #713,015
  • Oct 31, 2012 11:46pm Oct 31, 2012 11:46pm
Well, sorry I can't answer that question. I think of volatility as just more market movement. I guess I just a simple guy looking for simple ways to trade.

Cheers

Quoting gino32
well that is someway to define risk, but in finance risk is defined by Volatility. Risk On should mean I would accept more volatility that means buy more Higher Yield assets. But the question is, Are "market movers" really accepting(buying) more volatility ->as of higher yield assets or not?
  • #713,016
  • Oct 31, 2012 11:53pm Oct 31, 2012 11:53pm
Hi

Mercy seat like reading your info'
Did the same went long 12945 closed 12968
should have held,went long again 12960

Thinking what will happen when the markets open again

Should be a good dust up for the traders
  • #713,017
  • Oct 31, 2012 11:54pm Oct 31, 2012 11:54pm
well im just asking... I really try to learn something new everyday and be better at trading. And if you want to be richer you should ask those questions...just saying. Also Fear and Safety are in the same dimension with 2 variables (1,-1) . Fundamentals, technical, intermarket, quant, order flow, cycles.. should not be omitted "EVER" in my personal opinion..
"Don’t pray for an easy life, pray for the strength to endure a hard one"

Quoting 1candlepower
if i understood how that worked in that much detail, i'd be richer than bill gates right now... lately (last 2 - 3 years?) all assets frequently move together (i guess because the world has become so nutty that investors are driven by broad fears)... i remember 4 - 5 years ago, reading the effect of earnings release was very complicated / same with political news, cb statements, etc. it had many dimensions...

now there are 2 dimensions: safety and fear (risk on and risk off)



ps: i see little miss .eu is playing dead... she looks like she's...
  • #713,018
  • Oct 31, 2012 11:57pm Oct 31, 2012 11:57pm
That's it mofos. I'm short!

@1.2964

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  • #713,019
  • Oct 31, 2012 11:57pm Oct 31, 2012 11:57pm
Hey guys Please Suggest the Best broker For Commodities (Gold, Silver, Copper)
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P.S - The Price Feed Should Be The Best !!
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Thanks In Advance
  • #713,020
  • Oct 31, 2012 11:59pm Oct 31, 2012 11:59pm
Quoting mercy seat
#713010

That's the name of the provider of that TA there ...

TA which that member posted there ...

But as I did say it is incomplete ...

Member Typhoane could have posted the full origin TA there ...

Would have been more useful ...




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Another fresh one is soon to be released, I will post when available.
Trading Central is a analysis provider and is available through my broker Avafx
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