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  • #118,041
  • Oct 15, 2012 11:37pm Oct 15, 2012 11:37pm
Quoting kenfen69
Not tonight, Bob.
looks like 2573 and 2550 to me. if it goes to 2646-78 look hard for weakness
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  • #118,042
  • Oct 15, 2012 11:44pm Oct 15, 2012 11:44pm
Quoting kenfen69
I'm having flashbacks.

This is why I aborted a direct overlay pursuit in MT4.

Try just changing your chart from Candles to a line chart. Does it look anywhere near what you want...except inverted?

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whats missing is the candles are not alive.. and they move/lie... repaint.. that the reason this way dont work. the tl's are not magnetic using those candles. basically its inferior. i tried it many times.. and lost hair..
those who can, do. those who cant, talk about those who can
  • #118,043
  • Oct 15, 2012 11:46pm Oct 15, 2012 11:46pm
Quoting gatorinla
looks like 2573 and 2550 to me. if it goes to 2646-78 look hard for weakness
Fine levels!

May throw a small blind one in at 2646...H1 200 just above there right now. Another at 2672/3...stops at 2678 + a few.

Think I'd set those POs and sleep on it.

EDIT: Been in this range for about 46 hours now.
  • #118,044
  • Oct 15, 2012 11:53pm Oct 15, 2012 11:53pm
Quoting gatorinla
whats missing is the candles are not alive.. and they move/lie... repaint.. that the reason this way dont work. the tl's are not magnetic using those candles. basically its inferior. i tried it many times.. and lost hair..
Ditto!

Pretty old attempt at it, though (2006/7). I'll dig around and see if I can find something newer...er...better.

You can't switch the overlay on that one to display as a line, though (as is). All setup through OHLC. I actually don't know if it is even possible to do in MT4. Well...without losing a completely unacceptable amount of hair!

IF the overlayed candles worked correctly, would you be fine with the main candles being turned into the line chart?
  • #118,045
  • Oct 15, 2012 11:57pm Oct 15, 2012 11:57pm
Quoting gatorinla
whats missing is the candles are not alive.. and they move/lie... repaint.. that the reason this way dont work. the tl's are not magnetic using those candles. basically its inferior. i tried it many times.. and lost hair..
Essentially...you don't even want an overlay. You just want a mirror (inverted) image of whatever pair you're charting, correct?
  • #118,046
  • Oct 16, 2012 12:01am Oct 16, 2012 12:01am
Quoting kenfen69
Ditto!

Pretty old attempt at it, though (2006/7). I'll dig around and see if I can find something newer...er...better.

You can't switch the overlay on that one to display as a line, though (as is). All setup through OHLC. I actually don't know if it is even possible to do in MT4. Well...without losing a completely unacceptable amount of hair!

IF the overlayed candles worked correctly, would you be fine with the main candles being turned into the line chart?
the main thing is it being accurate.. i wanted to try line over line with some ma's.. i was able to do it with dealbook.. it worked well for scalping.
those who can, do. those who cant, talk about those who can
  • #118,047
  • Oct 16, 2012 12:02am Oct 16, 2012 12:02am
Quoting kenfen69
Essentially...you don't even want an overlay. You just want a mirror (inverted) image of whatever pair you're charting, correct?
those who can, do. those who cant, talk about those who can
  • #118,048
  • Oct 16, 2012 12:09am Oct 16, 2012 12:09am
same chart as earlier.. with a new one... the tl is in the same place.... the overlay candles moved.. this is what sucks..
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  • #118,049
  • Oct 16, 2012 12:11am Oct 16, 2012 12:11am
Quoting gatorinla
whats missing is the candles are not alive.. and they move/lie... repaint.. that the reason this way dont work. the tl's are not magnetic using those candles. basically its inferior. i tried it many times.. and lost hair..
I remember now...horrible flashbacks!

Tough to put into words, but...pretty much a no go in MT4. The program itself would need a different type of "Price Scrolling" option. Argh...really tough to put into words. Anyone familiar with audio editing software will know what I mean. Think Scroll During Playback. Scroll After Playback. Scroll To Playhead. THAT is the option that MT4 would need to be able to do this accurately. It would offer a continuous "fixed" point of reference to scale everything off.

Again...tough to explain...and I'll be fakked if I'm drawing images to try and explain it.
  • #118,050
  • Oct 16, 2012 12:17am Oct 16, 2012 12:17am
Quoting kenfen69
I remember now...horrible flashbacks!

Tough to put into words, but...pretty much a no go in MT4. The program itself would need a different type of "Price Scrolling" option. Argh...really tough to put into words. Anyone familiar with audio editing software will know what I mean. Think Scroll During Playback. Scroll After Playback. Scroll To Playhead. THAT is the option that MT4 would need to be able to do this accurately. It would offer a continuous "fixed" point of reference to scale everything off.

Again...tough to explain...and...
deal book is a beast it sucks the shit out of pc memory..
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  • #118,051
  • Oct 16, 2012 12:18am Oct 16, 2012 12:18am
Quoting gatorinla
OK...I'll dig about and play a bit, but see my post above. Fairly certain it is a no go in MT4, though.
  • #118,052
  • Oct 16, 2012 12:19am Oct 16, 2012 12:19am
Quoting gatorinla
deal book is a beast it sucks the shit out of pc memory..
Is it free to use...to try even?
  • #118,053
  • Oct 16, 2012 12:23am Oct 16, 2012 12:23am
Quoting gatorinla
deal book is a beast it sucks the shit out of pc memory..
I have 24GB of ram, and MT4 will use 2GB MAX!!! Hunk-o-#^%#$!!!

I kid, I kid. It is what it is. Been around for ages. Seems to have outlived MT5 (). Free...yada, yada, yada. Fine enough to make money with, but terribly frustrating at times, because some very basic things are missing...and probably NEVER coming.

Compared to other programs out there...definitely long in the tooth these days.
  • #118,054
  • Oct 16, 2012 12:26am Oct 16, 2012 12:26am
Quoting kenfen69
Is it free to use...to try even?
they may offer a demo.
those who can, do. those who cant, talk about those who can
  • #118,055
  • Oct 16, 2012 12:27am Oct 16, 2012 12:27am
Quoting kenfen69
I have 24GB of ram, and MT4 will use 2GB MAX!!! Hunk-o-#^%#$!!!

I kid, I kid. It is what it is. Been around for ages. Seems to have outlived MT5 (). Free...yada, yada, yada. Fine enough to make money with, but terribly frustrating at times, because some very basic things are missing...and probably NEVER coming.

Compared to other programs out there...definitely long in the tooth these days.
http://www.gftforex.com/Trading-Software/360-Download/
a shitload of pairs
those who can, do. those who cant, talk about those who can
  • #118,056
  • Oct 16, 2012 12:30am Oct 16, 2012 12:30am
Quoting kenfen69
OK...I'll dig about and play a bit, but see my post above. Fairly certain it is a no go in MT4, though.
May need to sleep on this...or wait for fresh blood to arrive with an opinion.

The fact that you just want a mirrored image of the same pair, has me thinking it has to be doable. Still not sure about as a line chart, though.
  • #118,057
  • Oct 16, 2012 12:32am Oct 16, 2012 12:32am
Quoting gatorinla
http://www.gftforex.com/Trading-Software/360-Download/
a shitload of pairs
AND a 10 MB PDF manual!?!

That is the kind of "basic" shite that MT4 was always missing!

Dloading now.
  • #118,058
  • Oct 16, 2012 12:34am Oct 16, 2012 12:34am
Quoting kenfen69
May need to sleep on this...or wait for fresh blood to arrive with an opinion.

The fact that you just want a mirrored image of the same pair, has me thinking it has to be doable. Still not sure about as a line chart, though.
Have you tried putting the monitor in front of a mirror?

Sorry couldn't resist.
  • #118,059
  • Oct 16, 2012 12:38am Oct 16, 2012 12:38am
Quoting stewrigh
Have you tried putting the monitor in front of a mirror?

Sorry couldn't resist.
It's making me so tired...that I probably would have tried that next!

Pain in the bottom. Been down this road before, and I think it was so traumatic that I've blacked it out of my memory. Every few minutes, some snippet of horror comes flashing back!
  • #118,060
  • Oct 16, 2012 12:41am Oct 16, 2012 12:41am
Quoting kenfen69
Dloading now.
Doh...restart required.

One thing I actually LIKE about MT4...none of that shiz.
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