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  • #5,621
  • Oct 12, 2012 7:55am Oct 12, 2012 7:55am
Quoting Martyfish
Congrats RJ,

Hope you have a great weekend !!

I have a few more hours, before I can indulge
I'll still be here for a while.....but if my comments get stupider and stupider, blame Jose
Doing what you like is Freedom. Liking what you do is Happiness.
  • #5,622
  • Oct 12, 2012 8:24am Oct 12, 2012 8:24am
Quoting realjumper
I'll still be here for a while.....but if my comments get stupider and stupider, blame Jose
From the sonds of your results, you deserve it !!

But, yes, we will take Jose into account, when conteplating your words over the next few hours

I'm a happy man as well, had my best ever week.

So it will be my standard Friday night beverage, a stiff Bombay Sapphire (or two)
I am a fallible imperfect person; so I must be a fallible imperfect trader.
  • #5,623
  • Oct 12, 2012 8:30am Oct 12, 2012 8:30am
Quoting Martyfish
From the sonds of your results, you deserve it !!

But, yes, we will take Jose into account, when conteplating your words over the next few hours

I'm a happy man as well, had my best ever week.

So it will be my standard Friday night beverage, a stiff Bombay Sapphire (or two)
I'm glad you had a great week too Marty.....the trading has not been that easy this past few weeks, but it seems that many people trading genesis have made some money.....and that's the whole point!! It doesn't matter whether you made 150 pips today, or 15 pips.....to be on the right side of the ledger at the end of the week is what it's all about. Everyone gets losses......that's all part of doing business with mister market. But if we can come out on the plus side at the end of the week, then it's all good.

If you made little profits.....be happy (not greedy). The bigger profits will come to you if you keep at it. We have to learn to crawl before we can walk.....before we can run

Have a great weekend all and see you next week
Doing what you like is Freedom. Liking what you do is Happiness.
  • #5,624
  • Oct 12, 2012 9:01am Oct 12, 2012 9:01am
Quoting wiz3003
For example : today I am long in EU and I am still in waiting for scale in or get out according to M15 arrow signal.

ciao

wiz
Just scaled in now.[/quote]

Great patience and good to see the "holding until opposite 15M arrow" exit option in action.
  • #5,625
  • Oct 12, 2012 9:22am Oct 12, 2012 9:22am
WP very close in all these pairs:
EU 1.2970
EY 101.70
CY 83.97
UC 0.9334
EA 1.2659
AU 1.0246
Today being the last day of the week, if these levels go we could move away from the WPs quite quickly and not see them again this week...
  • #5,626
  • Oct 12, 2012 9:48am Oct 12, 2012 9:48am
The week is at an end for me. Have a great weekend everyone
  • #5,627
  • Oct 12, 2012 10:21am Oct 12, 2012 10:21am
Quoting sidefx
Just scaled in now.
Great patience and good to see the "holding until opposite 15M arrow" exit option in action.[/quote]


You are right ... great patience and confidence in the system. This time it didn't give me more pips but in the long run I know it works ;-)

ciao

have agreat week end

p.s.: I closed all my positions with green pips in my pocket. As RJ said this is important.
You control how you trade; the market controls how and when you'll get paid
  • #5,628
  • Oct 12, 2012 11:30am Oct 12, 2012 11:30am
Quoting wiz3003
Great patience and good to see the "holding until opposite 15M arrow" exit option in action.

You are right ... great patience and confidence in the system. This time it didn't give me more pips but in the long run I know it works ;-)

ciao

have agreat week end

p.s.: I closed all my positions with green pips in my pocket. As RJ said this is important.[/quote]

quindi ti va meglio a 15 minuti??

then you better be 15 minutes?
  • #5,629
  • Oct 12, 2012 11:52am Oct 12, 2012 11:52am
Quoting braciola
You are right ... great patience and confidence in the system. This time it didn't give me more pips but in the long run I know it works ;-)

ciao

have agreat week end

p.s.: I closed all my positions with green pips in my pocket. As RJ said this is important.
quindi ti va meglio a 15 minuti??

then you better be 15 minutes?[/quote]

Non esattamente,

poichè non sempre posso stare davanti allo schermo ho due strategie di trading (entrambe basate su Genesis):
1. day trading (uso M5 per entrare e se le condizioni di mercato me lo permettono M15[exit3] per prendere i profitti oppure i pivot [exit1])
2. swing tading (lavoro su timeframe H1)

Prova a dare un occhio al documento che ho postate ieri e se hai dei dubbi fammelo sapere.

ciao

Not exactly,
because I can't be in front of the PC all the time I have two dufferent trading strategies (both based on Genesis):
1. day trading (I use M5 to enter and if market conditions are good M15 [exit3] to take profit otherwise pivots [exit1]).
2. swing trading (I work on TF H1).

Have a look at the pdf I posted yesterday and if you need let me know.
You control how you trade; the market controls how and when you'll get paid
  • #5,630
  • Oct 12, 2012 10:03pm Oct 12, 2012 10:03pm
Quoting Martyfish
From the sonds of your results, you deserve it !!

But, yes, we will take Jose into account, when conteplating your words over the next few hours

I'm a happy man as well, had my best ever week.

So it will be my standard Friday night beverage, a stiff Bombay Sapphire (or two)
Sapphire Gin. The man has taste!
  • #5,631
  • Oct 12, 2012 10:52pm Oct 12, 2012 10:52pm
[quote=wiz3003;6090869]Hi followers,

finally, after some months of hard work, we are ready to share with you the outcome of our efforts.

Hello everybody, hello wiz3003
I go back to trading after a few months absence. I discovered your forum and read this week the entire trade. Congratulations to the creators for this wonderful method and all their advice!
Pdf Genesis System is very interesting. Is it possible to know (chart table or historical) dates and times of the 53 trades test protocol (from 2012/08/13 to 2012/09/07)? This would improve the analysis of trades to take and which ones to avoid with the rules of the genesis.
Thank you again.
Best regards
  • #5,632
  • Oct 13, 2012 2:06am Oct 13, 2012 2:06am
[quote=vcary;6095291]
Quoting wiz3003
Hi followers,

finally, after some months of hard work, we are ready to share with you the outcome of our efforts.

Hello everybody, hello wiz3003
I go back to trading after a few months absence. I discovered your forum and read this week the entire trade. Congratulations to the creators for this wonderful method and all their advice!
Pdf Genesis System is very interesting. Is it possible to know (chart table or historical) dates and times of the 53 trades test protocol (from 2012/08/13 to 2012/09/07)? This would improve...
vcary,

enclosed you can find the recorded dates af all the trades.
I am sorry, I didn't take pictures but I am sure you are available to spend some hours to rebuilt the story ..... I am sure it will help you ;-)

ciao

wiz
Attached File(s)
File Type: xlsx Trades.xlsx   12 KB | 1,334 downloads
You control how you trade; the market controls how and when you'll get paid
  • #5,633
  • Oct 13, 2012 4:00am Oct 13, 2012 4:00am
[quote=wiz3003;6095359]
Quoting vcary

vcary,

enclosed you can find the recorded dates af all the trades.
I am sorry, I didn't take pictures but I am sure you are available to spend some hours to rebuilt the story ..... I am sure it will help you ;-)

ciao

wiz
It is really too nice and valuable your history! Thank you very much!
Best regards
vcary
  • #5,634
  • Oct 13, 2012 6:06am Oct 13, 2012 6:06am
To wiz3003 and the Genesis Team; Thanks for all your hard work in creating the 5_15 Genesis Strategy document. I thought it was beautifully done and it's kind of nice to have a printed document to refer to. The stats on the results of trades regarding the presence and/or non-presence of the M5 and M15 arrows was particularly interesting. Thanks again.
  • #5,635
  • Edited 2:24pm Oct 14, 2012 3:19am | Edited 2:24pm
Goodmorning to everyone,

I receveid some PMs from people asking for some clarifications. I think it is more helpfull to share my answers with all in order to sort out any doubt.

1. What does it mean YES/NO about the arrows in the statistics?
If an arrow (both M5 or M15) was already appeared when Genesis signal come on it is YES viceversa NO.

2. When M5 Arrow is YES and M15 is also YES, means that both TF arrow appear together at time of entry?
NO, it doesn't. In this case both M5 and M15 arrows were already on the chart when we had a Genesis signal. This is the typical trend day when we scaled in new positions in the same direction of the trend.

3. When do we enter? Following the arrows or Genesis signals?
We always enter in a trade according to the rules in post#2.
Arrows are just confirmation signals. If M5 arrow doesn't appear within 3-5 bars begin to be concerned.

4. When M15 arrow appeared would you entry or wait for the next genesis signal to enter?
Arrows are only a confirmation signals. Perticularly M15 arrow can help to highlight the higher probability trades in the M5 timeframe. Numbers say that if you enter the first Genesis signal in the same direction of M15 arrow you can get high succes rates.

5. How can we backtest the system with the arrows?
You'll have to leave 'arrow.ex4' in your experts folder because MTF Arrow is calling it. But you can remove it from your chart and try this arrow instead. You can change the number of bars it looks back and it should make no difference to mtf arrow
Attached File(s)
File Type: ex4 Arrow1.ex4   9 KB | 1,976 downloads
You control how you trade; the market controls how and when you'll get paid
  • #5,636
  • Oct 15, 2012 12:18am Oct 15, 2012 12:18am
Quoting wiz3003
Goodmorning to everyone,

I receveid some PMs from people asking for some clarifications. I think it is more helpfull to share my answers with all in order to sort out any doubt.
Excellent work.......
Doing what you like is Freedom. Liking what you do is Happiness.
  • #5,637
  • Oct 15, 2012 2:15am Oct 15, 2012 2:15am
[quote=wiz3003;6095359]
Quoting vcary

vcary,

enclosed you can find the recorded dates af all the trades.
I am sorry, I didn't take pictures but I am sure you are available to spend some hours to rebuilt the story ..... I am sure it will help you ;-)

ciao

wiz
Please wiz,when there is a strong trend, is that you pyramids each new signal matrix, or do you close the previously opened position before (eg trades No. 3 and 4 S 13 august t, 8, 9, 10, 11 and 12 August 14)
Thanks!
Best regards

vcary
  • #5,638
  • Oct 15, 2012 3:08am Oct 15, 2012 3:08am
Interesting PA today.....a ride down of +52 to S2 from the pivot since market open and a ride of +34 back up to the pivot.
Doing what you like is Freedom. Liking what you do is Happiness.
  • #5,639
  • Oct 15, 2012 3:22am Oct 15, 2012 3:22am
I may have gone off a little early today (again) after taking the EU ride to S1 this morning I am now long looking for 50 pips. Currently +42 and trailing.
I thought the AU was looking better so went 2 lots long with the first hitting its 20 pip target and the other having a 41 pip target with a breakeven in place.
Time will tell...

PS. Forgot to mention, that strength I saw in the AU cost me 16 pips in the EA short...

That's the 50 pip target just hit now. Only AU left in.
  • #5,640
  • Oct 15, 2012 3:36am Oct 15, 2012 3:36am
Quoting bryce
I may have gone off a little early today (again) after taking the EU ride to S1 this morning I am now long looking for 50 pips. Currently +42 and trailing.
I thought the AU was looking better so went 2 lots long with the first hitting its 20 pip target and the other having a 41 pip target with a breakeven in place.
Time will tell...

PS. Forgot to mention, that strength I saw in the AU cost me 16 pips in the EA short...

That's the 50 pip target just hit now. Only AU left in.
I have nothing open at the moment and I'm not in a hurry to open anything either. I'm close to my target for the day so I'll bide my time. EA was tempting early on, but a bit too close to the DP for me to get into it, but it turned into a good trade
Doing what you like is Freedom. Liking what you do is Happiness.
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