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  • #706,121
  • Oct 11, 2012 3:54pm Oct 11, 2012 3:54pm
Quoting wiseambition
And many of my charts eg M30, H1 now show a clear rollover in the indicators such as EMA5, QQE, RSI, Alligator, momentum, and awesome oscillator.

I will be interested to see how the goiler system calls it in the next few minutes, because that indi is right more often than wrong (eg it predicted a day of decline Wednesday and a day of rises for Thursday).
do share what goiler says.
  • #706,122
  • Oct 11, 2012 3:56pm Oct 11, 2012 3:56pm
Quoting ainaedil
well, I think move to 1.2750-1.2600 will come before Spain bailout request and test of 1.3400 after request.
if you say so Friday close might clear the direction.
  • #706,123
  • Oct 11, 2012 4:01pm Oct 11, 2012 4:01pm
Quoting HassanSheikh
if long positions are closed, won't there be new ones? I read somewhere today that 46% positions on euro are long and increasing. also, below 200dma we have support at 1.2804, 1.2800, 1.2790... but IMO it won't go that far.
the only thing you can trust is the MARKET. the new long positions(if considerable) would be sensible only tomorrow at the EURO zone market time.today upward move was a 50% correction of the last four days downward.
There is no randomness. It is just Chaos, a higher form of order.
  • #706,124
  • Oct 11, 2012 4:01pm Oct 11, 2012 4:01pm
Quoting HassanSheikh
do share what goiler says.

Goiler has just predicted a buy signal with a TP of 50


Like I say it is right more often than it's wrong, but we never know in advance which days it does get it wrong!
  • #706,125
  • Oct 11, 2012 4:01pm Oct 11, 2012 4:01pm
Quoting albchr
The system isn't broken at all. It's working precisely as designed by that 1%. A plan that's been in place longer than the 50 years I've been alive.

But that's a whole nother story.
and count Russia in... their montage
  • #706,126
  • Oct 11, 2012 4:02pm Oct 11, 2012 4:02pm
Feels like Spain will take a while to negotiate the bailout conditions, even if their rating is a step away from junk. The key is whether the 10yrs stay below 6%. If they do for a while, no urgency for bailout.
  • #706,127
  • Oct 11, 2012 4:03pm Oct 11, 2012 4:03pm
15m break upward?
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just do it
  • #706,128
  • Oct 11, 2012 4:03pm Oct 11, 2012 4:03pm
Quoting wiseambition
Goiler has just predicted a buy signal with a TP of 50


Like I say it is right more often than it's wrong, but we never know in advance which days it does get it wrong!
You mean a move to 1.2975? Sounds good.
  • #706,129
  • Oct 11, 2012 4:09pm Oct 11, 2012 4:09pm
Quoting keradk
and count Russia in... their montage
check out the quote of alan greenspan at 2:19. gotta love it...lol

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A man is what he thinks about all day long. - Ralph Waldo Emerson
  • #706,130
  • Oct 11, 2012 4:10pm Oct 11, 2012 4:10pm
Quoting Arkv
Feels like Spain will take a while to negotiate the bailout conditions, even if their rating is a step away from junk. The key is whether the 10yrs stay below 6%. If they do for a while, no urgency for bailout.
I think with rating cut will trigger the 10yrs rate increase and eventually Spain will request bailout
  • #706,131
  • Oct 11, 2012 4:11pm Oct 11, 2012 4:11pm
up or down why don't motion
what's is waiting?
  • #706,132
  • Oct 11, 2012 4:14pm Oct 11, 2012 4:14pm
Quoting fxrustyspoon
check out the quote of alan greenspan at 2:19. gotta love it...lol

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...dwHyZxk#t=129s

My take on THRIVE:

toroidal geometry = donuts = Homer Simpson = editor of this whacked-out video


(PS: no offense to you intended there fxrustyspoon.)
  • #706,133
  • Oct 11, 2012 4:18pm Oct 11, 2012 4:18pm
Quoting ainaedil
I think with rating cut will trigger the 10yrs rate increase and eventually Spain will request bailout
Moody's is next
  • #706,134
  • Oct 11, 2012 4:21pm Oct 11, 2012 4:21pm
Quoting RWalker
My take on THRIVE:

toroidal geometry = donuts = Homer Simpson = editor of this whacked-out video


(PS: no offense to you intended there fxrustyspoon.)
none taken my friend. I dont agree with some of his views as far as the crop circles, total crap but his take on economics is spot on.
A man is what he thinks about all day long. - Ralph Waldo Emerson
  • #706,135
  • Oct 11, 2012 4:24pm Oct 11, 2012 4:24pm
Quoting fxrustyspoon
none taken my friend. I dont agree with some of his views as far as the crop circles, total crap but his take on economics is spot on.
...I noticed that, couldn't understand why the talk about money was actually rational.
  • #706,136
  • Oct 11, 2012 4:28pm Oct 11, 2012 4:28pm
Quoting RWalker
...I noticed that, couldn't understand why the talk about money was actually rational.
i skip the beginning of the video to about the 1 hour mark lol. too new age for me. i like to say see i knew that and that and that too...
A man is what he thinks about all day long. - Ralph Waldo Emerson
  • #706,137
  • Oct 11, 2012 4:32pm Oct 11, 2012 4:32pm
Quoting keradk
and count Russia in... their montage
nice to know they talk about the usa like this...russians
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  • #706,138
  • Oct 11, 2012 4:38pm Oct 11, 2012 4:38pm
Quoting attila
yeah sure. the move up was the market perception the yesterday downgrade was in a sense "good" because that would accelerate Spain to ask for help.. That's all the market wants.. Spain ask for money and sign the austerity measures..

any sign that's not gonna happen rather sooner than later, will send it crashing down.. That's all that is to it.
Crazy times, ratings cut is view as good.

Makes me wonder how much shit we are really in.
  • #706,139
  • Oct 11, 2012 4:48pm Oct 11, 2012 4:48pm
Quoting CoolJL
Crazy times, ratings cut is view as good.

Makes me wonder how much shit we are really in.
price is back where we started 3 hours ago! woo hoo 7 pips
A man is what he thinks about all day long. - Ralph Waldo Emerson
  • #706,140
  • Edited 5:09pm Oct 11, 2012 4:49pm | Edited 5:09pm
Quoting divak
agree on that. QE3 been in for a month. still sitting below 1.30... with a desperate second attempt at 1.3040.

People may play the safe haven card, as IMF pointed out slower global growth and middle east is getting hotter.... adding on top of that China's slowest growth for the last 13 years
when one truly understands the system, one understands why a 50/50 hedge of precious metals and US dollars is the safest way to go (along with other assets like farmland, going to appreciate like madddd). you can tilt it 25/75 when credit is contracting/expanding, to increase wealth, not just preserve it.

and...

if they end up going the deflation route, its funny, cash will not only be king.. it will be absolute master, this piece of paper promise that they can still create more of whenever they want.

it makes me sick to my stomache every single day that the majority of the world doesn't realize all financial problems come from the SIMPLE FACT that citizens of sovereigns don't owe their government debts to other sovereigns (which would be an actual real debt..), but to central banks simply for the act of creating their money..

early Americans stopped a central bank for over 130 years (besides two failed attempts in the 1800s), its sad to think that we are more ignorant then than we are now. i wish more than almost anything everyone in the world was educated on this one topic..




if you look at the national debt and who is by and large the holder of that debt... well duh... the FED.. and its like that with pretty much every nations central bank.




in the great depression the money supply fell by 1/3... so not only did the money required to pay interest cease to exist (as interest is not created when currency is, only the principal), but so did a lot of the principal. so the bankers just seized everything...

the only reason its not happening again is that this time the deflation will cause worldwide panic and war... they are either waiting for the right time or they realized they dont want worldwide chaos, they would rather have a financial debt slavery system like the one we already have, so they will choose to keep on printing (which will probably bring about the same result, just will take longer)

either way, inflation or deflation, they control the gold and the currency creation... so neither inflation or deflation bothers them at all..



deflation really hurts anyone in debt, inflation hurts anyone with cash savings or fixed income investments (and no inflationary investments like energy, food and metals)

them = cabal of international elite

i mean hell, did you know the Forbes 2000 list combines for $137 trillion in assets in 2011?

heres a chart 2004-2010
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