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  • #341
  • Oct 10, 2012 2:16pm Oct 10, 2012 2:16pm
Hi The7 and all together!

Thanks for sharing the system and ideas.

I start a trade like system which posted in first posting (daily) in EURGBP last night. I feel fine with this trade. I think, after correction it can be go in my direction. If not, next signal ;-) See Signal before. The same thing.

My timezone is Germany, Berlin (GMT +1). If you post charts too, we can check out by the other, which is best time. So we can adjust.

My chart:
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Good Luck!
pti nat r
  • #342
  • Oct 10, 2012 3:03pm Oct 10, 2012 3:03pm
While the method CAN catch a trend in the early stages, it's weakness is that it can also get into many consecutive losing trades by going against a strong trend and in very choppy conditions.

Not to rain on anyone's parade, but the attached chart validates what I am saying. It shows a period of time from July - November of 2010 where there were 17 trades and 16 of them were losers. Plus 11 of them were consecutive losing trades.

Very few traders that I know of have the intestinal fortitude to trade a method like that.

And yes, I understand that there is no one concrete set of rules to this method, BUT it shows that just arbitrarily buying or selling when the market moves from outside to inside the channel may not be such a good idea.'

* I just realized that my screen capture didn't capture all 17 trades, but if you check your charts for the time period I mentioned you will see them
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  • #343
  • Oct 10, 2012 3:20pm Oct 10, 2012 3:20pm
Quoting RobinHood
While the method CAN catch a trend in the early stages, it's weakness is that it can also get into many consecutive losing trades by going against a strong trend and in very choppy conditions.

Not to rain on anyone's parade, but the attached chart validates what I am saying. It shows a period of time from July - November of 2010 where there were 17 trades and 16 of them were losers. Plus 11 of them were consecutive losing trades.

Very few traders that I know of have the intestinal fortitude to trade a method like that.

And yes, I understand...
Please go to page 1 and read the rules again. We are using Candlesticks, not HA candles. I looked into the same time period you mentioned (July-Nov,2010) with the chart I used, yes there were few losing trades but overall it turned out to be a profitable period...
  • #344
  • Oct 10, 2012 3:21pm Oct 10, 2012 3:21pm
I'm as cynical as the next man Robin but even from the trades that you did highlight I think from a cursory glance only 6 would have been valid trades. The previous days candle has to close outside the channel and the signal candle inside.
Correct me if I am wrong please?
  • #345
  • Oct 10, 2012 3:31pm Oct 10, 2012 3:31pm
Quoting shaikjun
here are list of pair forming ,but have to check again tomorrow morning.

GBPUSD BUY
EURCAD BUY
EURJPY BUY
EURUSD BUY
CADCHF SELL
CHFJPY SELL
USDCHF SELL
GBPCAD BUY
GBPJPY BUY,
pls reconfirm before opening,pls share your comments if any of the pair is not suitable for an entry.
thanks
Shouldn't chfjpy be a potential long?
  • #346
  • Oct 10, 2012 3:33pm Oct 10, 2012 3:33pm
I didn't pick the trades, nor does it matter what type of candles they are....BECAUSE the trades were chosen AND the arrows posted by the smThe7Signals_v1 indicator.

However, IF the indicator is just flat out wrong that many times, then that changes things. But visually they all look correct to me.

I have attached a chart without the HA candles.
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  • #347
  • Edited 4:06pm Oct 10, 2012 3:48pm | Edited 4:06pm
Quoting The7
Please go to page 1 and read the rules again. We are using Candlesticks, not HA candles. I looked into the same time period you mentioned (July-Nov,2010) with the chart I used, yes there were few losing trades but overall it turned out to be a profitable period...
A few losing trades? There are 19 trades during those 5 months according to the indicator and it appears to me that there are 15 losers and 4 winners IF YOU LOOK CLOSELY at each trade.

I would love for you to show me how the period I mentioned (AUDUSD - July-Nov,2010) was profitable just by buying/selling when the market moves from outside the channel to the inside.
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  • #348
  • Oct 10, 2012 3:56pm Oct 10, 2012 3:56pm
Thanks Robin,
From that chart it looks like arrows 3 and 6 are winners and 14 is unknown. Leaving 11 losers. Not a good sample that's for sure.

The7 recommends using this over numerous currency pairs though and letting the winners run to offset the smaller losses so I suppose we'll just have to test and see.

What do others think??
  • #349
  • Oct 10, 2012 3:59pm Oct 10, 2012 3:59pm
Quoting RobinHood
I didn't pick the trades, nor does it matter what type of candles they are....BECAUSE the trades were chosen AND the arrows posted by the smThe7Signals_v1 indicator.

However, IF the indicator is just flat out wrong that many times, then that changes things. But visually they all look correct to me.

I have attached a chart without the HA candles.
Doesn't look like a daily chart !!!
  • #350
  • Oct 10, 2012 4:07pm Oct 10, 2012 4:07pm
Here's the chart with all 19 trades:
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  • #351
  • Oct 10, 2012 4:24pm Oct 10, 2012 4:24pm
Quoting Bergit
Doesn't look like a daily chart !!!
I can assure you that it's a daily chart...
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  • #352
  • Oct 10, 2012 4:33pm Oct 10, 2012 4:33pm
Quoting RobinHood
I can assure you that it's a daily chart...
  • #353
  • Oct 10, 2012 4:48pm Oct 10, 2012 4:48pm
Long AU & UCAD from yesterday. In the money a little on both...
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  • #354
  • Oct 10, 2012 5:53pm Oct 10, 2012 5:53pm
Quoting prosper1
Long AU & UCAD from yesterday. In the money a little on both...
My CAD looks little different (TimeZone). To compare here is the chart:
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EGBP moved SL:
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  • #355
  • Oct 10, 2012 9:57pm Oct 10, 2012 9:57pm
@Ariadne Thanks for the clear explaination,now i got it
Quoting Ariadne
@shaikjun



in the place of the Daily chart,
24hr = 1440 minutes

i find it to be sharper more reliable info then the Daily, also 1440min chart compiles the information exactly to the specs of your time zone.
meaning the next day starts at the beginning of the new trading session!

144min chart is just the downsize scale of the 1440min, 10 bars per day!
On intraday it is quite solid momentum reader.


If you are unable to be specific then i'd suggest
the Daily -120min


hope this will help clarify ? :-)

P.S.
....... as the price becomes...
NEVER go against the Daily trend
  • #356
  • Oct 10, 2012 11:06pm Oct 10, 2012 11:06pm
Quoting RobinHood
I can assure you that it's a daily chart...
Between June1st, 2010 and Jan 2011 the Aud/Usd produced 1583 pips. The chart below is from Ibfx. It is not fair, to show a time period with failed trades and saying this system is a bad idea. You have to look at the whole picture. I didnt even check what this system did during this time with other pairs...
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  • #357
  • Oct 11, 2012 3:01am Oct 11, 2012 3:01am
Quoting The7
Between June1st, 2010 and Jan 2011 the Aud/Usd produced 1583 pips. The chart below is from Ibfx. It is not fair, to show a time period with failed trades and saying this system is a bad idea. You have to look at the whole picture. I didnt even check what this system did during this time with other pairs...

dont worry. criticism is good. it identifies any problems and way to resolve things. better way of doing things. so let robin identify flaws.

only time will tell the viability of the method.
  • #358
  • Oct 11, 2012 3:04am Oct 11, 2012 3:04am
Quoting whatfx
dont worry. criticism is good. it identifies any problems and way to resolve things. better way of doing things. so let robin identify flaws.

only time will tell the viability of the method.
dont worry The7. your system is excellent. i am agree with whatfx , time will tell you everything.
  • #359
  • Oct 11, 2012 3:06am Oct 11, 2012 3:06am
Quoting shaikjun
here are list of pair forming ,but have to check again tomorrow morning.

GBPUSD BUY
EURCAD BUY
EURJPY BUY
EURUSD BUY
CADCHF SELL
CHFJPY SELL
USDCHF SELL
GBPCAD BUY
GBPJPY BUY,
pls reconfirm before opening,pls share your comments if any of the pair is not suitable for an entry.
thanks

most of these trades did not materialise. the only iable one i see at present is the sell on usd chf. so i have taken a sell on uc. see how this one pans out.
  • #360
  • Oct 11, 2012 3:30am Oct 11, 2012 3:30am
usdchf did not close below the EMA
Quoting whatfx
most of these trades did not materialise. the only iable one i see at present is the sell on usd chf. so i have taken a sell on uc. see how this one pans out.
NEVER go against the Daily trend
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