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  • #5,301
  • Oct 5, 2012 3:40am Oct 5, 2012 3:40am
Quoting shum
olivia, why you post only positive results, I do not bealive that you operated only Friday .. other days of the week that is the result?
explain how you operate and in other days?
No need to post positive results and no negative ones without.
Post screen with operations currently open, not after you've closed the operation.
When you post good results that wants to prove????? you're more well done than others?

I have never seen you to post negative results .. why? don t you have?
I very rarely post ANY results anymore, thats negative or positive, and the reason I did this time was in answer to Martyfish when he said he would like to know about trading Genesis on the HTF.

No I am not going to take time out of trading to post operations currently open, I don't see why I should I've posted how I trade and that hasn't changed so why should I keep repeating myself.

And ummm
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I have never seen you to post negative results .. why? don t you have?
I have never seen yours either until that screenshot of your closed trades????
  • #5,302
  • Oct 5, 2012 3:43am Oct 5, 2012 3:43am
So we should not be trading against the higher timeframe trend. I'd like to see how the seniors and other profitable traders go about this.

Currently, I just zoom out, still on the M5, using the minus key. This tends to give me about two days on the screen. First, if current price is up the top, then you're probably in an uptrend.

Second, I look for the traditional HL/HH or LH/LL over the last few hours, and maybe decide that the currency is trending down even if it's towards the top of the chart when zoomed out

I guess I'm a bit discretionary as to how far out I zoom. I suspect I'm zooming out too far.

Thoughts?
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  • #5,303
  • Oct 5, 2012 3:53am Oct 5, 2012 3:53am
Quoting idempotent
So we should not be trading against the higher timeframe trend. I'd like to see how the seniors and other profitable traders go about this.

Currently, I just zoom out, still on the M5, using the minus key. This tends to give me about two days on the screen. First, if current price is up the top, then you're probably in an uptrend.

Second, I look for the traditional HL/HH or LH/LL over the last few hours, and maybe decide that the currency is trending down even if it's towards the top of the chart when zoomed out

I guess I'm a bit discretionary...
I've mentioned this before I think, but anyway....I look at the H4 and H1 once a day maybe.....might even have a look at the daily as well, but it doesn't influence my intraday trading greatly. For intraday trading, I look at M5 and M15 because that tells me all I need to know
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  • #5,304
  • Oct 5, 2012 3:57am Oct 5, 2012 3:57am
Quoting ohammond
I very rarely post ANY results anymore, thats negative or positive, and the reason I did this time was in answer to Martyfish when he said he would like to know about trading Genesis on the HTF.

No I am not going to take time out of trading to post operations currently open, I don't see why I should I've posted how I trade and that hasn't changed so why should I keep repeating myself.
Olivia,

You dont haved to justify your trading results to anyone.

We appreciate your input, and the quality of your posts, are proof enough to me, as to your trading skills.
I am a fallible imperfect person; so I must be a fallible imperfect trader.
  • #5,305
  • Oct 5, 2012 3:59am Oct 5, 2012 3:59am
Quoting realjumper
For intraday trading, I look at M5 and M15 because that tells me all I need to know
And just the traditional LH/LL and HL/HH?

I know it's a basic question, but to some it's still discretionary. I guess I'm just trying to tune in fully with the Genesis way.
  • #5,306
  • Oct 5, 2012 4:01am Oct 5, 2012 4:01am
Quoting realjumper
I've mentioned this before I think, but anyway....I look at the H4 and H1 once a day maybe.....might even have a look at the daily as well, but it doesn't influence my intraday trading greatly. For intraday trading, I look at M5 and M15 because that tells me all I need to know
I look at H4 2/3 times a day

H1 every hour

Daily one a day

I have a trading sheet I complete every day, noting my trades, and for the pairs I trade, make notes for each TF
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  • #5,307
  • Oct 5, 2012 4:04am Oct 5, 2012 4:04am
Quoting idempotent
And just the traditional LH/LL and HL/HH?

I know it's a basic question, but to some it's still discretionary. I guess I'm just trying to tune in fully with the Genesis way.
II don't need to see a lower high AND a lower low if I'm looking to go short.....as long as I see a lower high, and Genesis + stoch etc indicate a short entry, I will jump in.....as long as there are no S/R lines in the way of course.

For long entry, a higher low is all I need to see, in conjunction with everything else
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  • #5,308
  • Oct 5, 2012 4:05am Oct 5, 2012 4:05am
Meant to post this, just received it, its an analysis of dollar index.

The conclusion ties in with Olivia's analysis of the GU daily chart
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  • #5,309
  • Oct 5, 2012 4:16am Oct 5, 2012 4:16am
Quoting realjumper
II don't need to see a lower high AND a lower low if I'm looking to go short.....as long as I see a lower high, and Genesis + stoch etc indicate a short entry, I will jump in.....as long as there are no S/R lines in the way of course.

For long entry, a higher low is all I need to see, in conjunction with everything else
Exactly what I look for too, if those are absent then I would need to see divergence.
  • #5,310
  • Oct 5, 2012 4:22am Oct 5, 2012 4:22am
Quoting ohammond
Exactly what I look for too, if those are absent then I would need to see divergence.
Yeah.....if you wait for a LH and a LL, you'll miss a large part of the trade.
Doing what you like is Freedom. Liking what you do is Happiness.
  • #5,311
  • Oct 5, 2012 4:41am Oct 5, 2012 4:41am
Quoting Martyfish
Meant to post this, just received it, its an analysis of dollar index.
I think that if you're trading EU & Euro-related pairs, the Euro Index (EurX) is a better proxy than the $ Index (UsdX, which only has 58% Euro 'weight' in it).
EurX broke out of that (inverted) H&S pattern earlier than UsdX & has already provided the all important retest of the resistance-turned-support line.
We'll soon see if NFP numbers 'were already in the charts' or not
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  • #5,312
  • Oct 5, 2012 4:50am Oct 5, 2012 4:50am
Quoting realjumper
It's a valid entry, but I am sitting on the sidelines until after the NFP circus show......the market is too choppy for me.

This^ I haven't taken a trade all day (err early morning in my case). I'm waiting until after 30-minutes after Employment report..and only if I see something juicy
  • #5,313
  • Oct 5, 2012 5:21am Oct 5, 2012 5:21am
Definitely Do Not Trade This......

I'm just spitballing to see how this works out......
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  • #5,314
  • Oct 5, 2012 5:24am Oct 5, 2012 5:24am
Looks like bullish flag
  • #5,315
  • Oct 5, 2012 5:25am Oct 5, 2012 5:25am
Quoting realjumper
Definitely Do Not Trade This......

I'm just spitballing to see how this works out......
LOL was just looking at the same thing
  • #5,316
  • Oct 5, 2012 5:27am Oct 5, 2012 5:27am
Quoting ohammond
LOL was just looking at the same thing
I've turned my web cam off now....
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  • #5,317
  • Oct 5, 2012 5:38am Oct 5, 2012 5:38am
Quoting realjumper
I've turned my web cam off now....
I was enjoying that
  • #5,318
  • Oct 5, 2012 5:40am Oct 5, 2012 5:40am
The Yen crosses always seem to react appropriately to high impact news, with very little SL hunting...... EJ, CJ and UJ all got the Genesis signal 5 minutes before the news.....hmmmm
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  • #5,319
  • Oct 5, 2012 5:47am Oct 5, 2012 5:47am
Hi senior members and others that may be able to help

My MT4 platform freezes during the time of the super HIN announcements. Like the NFP right now, froze right 1 second before the release, and the charts only started to function again 10 minutes afterwards. I had internet issues before but it's been solved and have had no problems around other non-major announcements (even the normal HIN).

I'm wondering if anyone has experienced this issue before? I'm using a demo account as I don't trade through MT4. My charts are pretty much just the Genesis setup, albeit I have some things that show differently on different timeframes (eg ATR projection I only show the top left-hand data on M5 and show the line on M15, and I have more market opening lines showing on the M5 timeframe than I do for H1 timeframe). But just minor things.

I have a reasonably powerful computer. It's definitely not a memory problem as it only happens during these announcements and not other times.

Appreciate if anyone can help. And no rush, I'm sure you're all focused on seeing if the NFP gives a valid setup. Cheers
  • #5,320
  • Oct 5, 2012 5:49am Oct 5, 2012 5:49am
Quoting RainyDay1
Hi senior members and others that may be able to help

My MT4 platform freezes during the time of the super HIN announcements. Like the NFP right now, froze right 1 second before the release, and the charts only started to function again 10 minutes afterwards. I had internet issues before but it's been solved and have had no problems around other non-major announcements (even the normal HIN).

I'm wondering if anyone has experienced this issue before? I'm using a demo account as I don't trade through MT4. My charts are pretty much just the...
I don't get any issues like that. My advice would be to eliminate the obvious first....download a demo from a different broker and see how that runs during these times...
Doing what you like is Freedom. Liking what you do is Happiness.
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