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  • #39,561
  • Oct 3, 2012 5:47am Oct 3, 2012 5:47am
[quote=traderathome;6064804]Umbro, only four items are listed at a time. There were a few low impact EUR releases (green), and when they were history more cycled up to be shown, now including the USD high impact releases (red). You have some control. You can elect to not show the low impact releases (green) and mediumu impact releases (blue).

I'll tell you again what you read in the post releasing the indicators you are using..........

.......read the user notes in the compiles of the indicators!
I'll read the notes.Thanks.
ok someday will explain me about the indicators ! The market is already diffcult. Why you make it difficult ?
  • #39,562
  • Oct 3, 2012 5:53am Oct 3, 2012 5:53am
Where is going the market ?
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  • #39,563
  • Oct 3, 2012 8:10am Oct 3, 2012 8:10am
Quoting umbro
Where is going the market ?
Just tell me what you think. Just looking not good...
  • #39,564
  • Oct 3, 2012 8:27am Oct 3, 2012 8:27am
Entered buy stop at 1.2916.

Letīs see if they want to play some afternoon ball

Regards,
H.
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"The future is already written in the past"
  • #39,565
  • Oct 3, 2012 5:35pm Oct 3, 2012 5:35pm
EU: Entered short. You can see a previous setup. During the LS yesterday the price only ranged, but involved high activity. That activity in the range only says something is brewing, but not what direction the next move will take. For that, I am influenced by the "stopping" volume at the beginning of the previous setup, which casts all subsequent PA in a bearish light. The market is just not ready yet to execute the break out. And maybe not today, either. Maybe Friday. Based on the EP zone for that setup, as price returns now to that zone, I have made my short entry. The market might not be finished whipsawing to build its positions, so the SL shown remains mental.
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  • #39,566
  • Edited 6:24pm Oct 3, 2012 6:00pm | Edited 6:24pm
Quoting umbro
Just tell me what you think. Just looking not good...
What's not good? Up is good. Down is good. Movement is good. It is no movement that is not good.

Umbro, if anyone had the gift of knowing where the market was going, that person would be rich. And all the big investment houses would be paying that person huge sums to not trade against them! Heck, even from day to day sometimes the market itself doesn't know where it is going! Why do you think Master Sonicdeejay says, "Let the market decide."? Yes, first let the market decide which way it is going, before you decide which way to trade it.

And if the market changes it's mind? Or, if you are suddenly on the wrong side? What then? Well, just like every other trader, you handle it.
  • #39,567
  • Oct 3, 2012 6:28pm Oct 3, 2012 6:28pm
[quote=traderathome;6064804]Umbro, only four items are listed at a time. There were a few low impact EUR releases (green), and when they were history more cycled up to be shown, now including the USD high impact releases (red). You have some control. You can elect to not show the low impact releases (green) and mediumu impact releases (blue).

I'll tell you again what you read in the post releasing the indicators you are using..........

.......read the user notes in the compiles of the indicators!



Ok. I'll ask my friend to help me because I'm not good with the PC . Thanks
  • #39,568
  • Oct 3, 2012 6:39pm Oct 3, 2012 6:39pm
Quoting traderathome
What's not good? Up is good. Down is good. Movement is good. It is no movement that is not good.

Umbro, if anyone had the gift of knowing where the market was going, that person would be rich. And all the big investment houses would be paying that person huge sums to not trade against them! Heck, even from day to day sometimes the market itself doesn't know where it is going! Why do you think Master Sonicdeejay says, "Let the market decide."? Yes, first let the market decide which way it is going, before you decide which way to trade it....
I think this market is very difficult (at least it is for me) compared to 2 years ago. I agree with what you say but the problem is the market is not deciding in my humble opinion. Yesterday I brought home 30 pips in 4 trades but it was difficult because there were nonsense candles in a choppy market. Ok, now that I externated my frustration I feel better and happy. This week I'll not to my psycotherapist. Let's the market decide..
  • #39,569
  • Oct 3, 2012 6:51pm Oct 3, 2012 6:51pm
Quoting umbro
I think this market is very difficult (at least it is for me) compared to 2 years ago. I agree with what you say but the problem is the market is not deciding in my humble opinion. Yesterday I brought home 30 pips in 4 trades but it was difficult because there were nonsense candles in a choppy market. Ok, now that I externated my frustration I feel better and happy. This week I'll not to my psycotherapist. Let's the market decide..
Ok, the market has been choppy. Why? There is a reason for everything. And it is not that the market has not decided. Choppy, ranging, it all looks like indecision. Yes. But suppose there is another explanation? Choppy, ranging, consolidation, all are terms describing when PA simply goes up/down but nowhere, really. And why would the market bounce PA around like that?

Here is another reason, aside from "indecision". Suppose the market, after bearish USD and having built sizeable positions that way, decides the tide is changing. What is the market supposed to do with it's sizeable position? Take the receipt and it back to the store and return it? In order to close it's position, and even reverse it, the market needs other traders to take the other side of all the necessary transactions, all of them! Do you not suppose this takes time? Do you not suppose the market must maneuver PA up and down in such manner as to coax those other traders to do what the market needs them to do? Hence, the prolonged choppy and "indecisive" appearing market, that in reality might very well have made it's decision.

Trading a ranging market, some would say is easy. Just pick tops and bottoms with tight SLs. Well, that is a method, yes. However, that is not the Sonic R. System, which is hard to trade when PA ranges unless the range is wide and the setups appear near the tops and bottoms for moves back across the range. It is what it is.

Congratulations, umbro, for making pips!
  • #39,570
  • Oct 3, 2012 9:52pm Oct 3, 2012 9:52pm
Quoting sonicdeejay
No one ever told me..it'd be that hard..

Sonic
Well, if you know a good programmer, get a hold of a good "EA" or have one made; trades 24 hours a day, follows ALL the rules, 100% disciplined no emotions or headgames, and can watch 20 things at once if you like and not miss a beat, sky is the limit here....

BTW - Nice Avatar! Best song on album for me, by a longgggg shot, truly sublime

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  • #39,571
  • Oct 4, 2012 12:21am Oct 4, 2012 12:21am
Quoting traderathome
EJ: Entered short. SL mental for now because if this is going down, then the Frankfurt or London mkt. might spike price up first.
EJ: Added trade #2, which is not a Sonic R. entry. Consider it a Scout/"Curious" short entry after new highs were made suddenly, in the absence of any scheduled release, and conveniently before two upcoming high impact EUR releases. This could still be pumped higher today, so the SL (now mentally relocated to SL2) remains mental. My TP is tentative, and here is why.

H4 shows the SR did not hold as resistance and price moved higher, with this last sudden spurt taking the price to the FR 50% retracement level of the multi-day move down from the top over two weeks ago. And it is interesting to note that now PA is only two days of average range pips from the new high made today, down to the RWL mark. And the RWL mark is the same area of lows put in before the run up to that high just over two weeks ago. I should not be surprised it PA is back down there when the week finishes.

Of course, this depends on what the market has planned for PA following the EUR releases. Waiting time now.
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  • #39,572
  • Oct 4, 2012 1:01am Oct 4, 2012 1:01am
Quoting traderathome
Ok, the market has been choppy. Why? There is a reason for everything. And it is not that the market has not decided. Choppy, ranging, it all looks like indecision. Yes. But suppose there is another explanation? Choppy, ranging, consolidation, all are terms describing when PA simply goes up/down but nowhere, really. And why would the market bounce PA around like that?

Here is another reason, aside from "indecision". Suppose the market, after bearish USD and having built sizeable positions that way, decides the tide is changing. What is the...

I will answer later...
  • #39,573
  • Oct 4, 2012 1:22am Oct 4, 2012 1:22am
OK. Tha, what's your plan for today ? I think we are still in choppy market. U
  • #39,574
  • Oct 4, 2012 1:35am Oct 4, 2012 1:35am
Quoting umbro
OK. Tha, what's your plan for today ? I think we are still in choppy market. U
EU:

If the two EUR releases don't go well for euro, and if the USD release does go well for the dollar, then I expect one of those 150+ pips swing moves out of the market. Maybe a 200+ pips swing!

Otherwise, I suppose the market works PA back up towards the upper whole number/RDH/previous highs region until we see what the next day brings.
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  • #39,575
  • Oct 4, 2012 1:51am Oct 4, 2012 1:51am
Quoting traderathome
EU:

If the two EUR releases don't go well for euro, and if the USD release does go well for the dollar, then I expect one of those 150+ pips swing moves out of the market. Maybe a 200+ pips swing!

Otherwise, I suppose the market works PA back up towards the upper whole number/RDH/previous highs region until we see what the next day brings.
Yes, I hope you'll make it. I tell you what. I don't know what is your provider but you are using MT4 according to your posts. You need to post the trades with the buy/sell stuff if not you're fake guy. You just draw the lines. I'm not an artist... but you are !
  • #39,576
  • Oct 4, 2012 2:22am Oct 4, 2012 2:22am
Quoting traderathome
EU: Entered short. You can see a previous setup. During the LS yesterday the price only ranged, but involved high activity. That activity in the range only says something is brewing, but not what direction the next move will take. For that, I am influenced by the "stopping" volume at the beginning of the previous setup, which casts all subsequent PA in a bearish light. The market is just not ready yet to execute the break out. And maybe not today, either. Maybe Friday. Based on the EP zone for that setup, as price returns now to that zone, I have...
EU: Added trade #2, a Scout/"Curious" short, not a classic Sonic R. entry. PA is back to top of range, and ahead of two EUR high impact releases and a USD high impact release. If you view VSA on M1 you will see that all the really high levels of trading started well after the run up began. So it might well be that the market has struck new high ground for shorting while time permits before the releases. This is a high risk entry. SL2 is the new mental SL, and remains mental since we have yet to hear from the US session, which could spike price even higher based upon the SR area shown on the attached H4 pic.
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  • #39,577
  • Edited 2:46am Oct 4, 2012 2:27am | Edited 2:46am
Quoting umbro
Yes, I hope you'll make it. I tell you what. I don't know what is your provider but you are using MT4 according to your posts. You need to post the trades with the buy/sell stuff if not you're fake guy. You just draw the lines. I'm not an artist... but you are !
Get real, umbro. I've been doing in like manner for over two years here so that the EP, SL and TP in the posted pics. are very clear to any who care to view them (more clear than the MT4 lines). I have no intention of changing for you or anyone else. I post my trade entries real-time, and the conclusion of all of them, too. Get on board and show your stuff like I do, or shut up.

BTW, I don't ask anyone to "trade along with me." Every trader makes their own trading decisions. I make and I lose pips, just like any one else. But I post my trades with pics. as clear as I can make them as an aide to others reading this thread and studying this method. Furthermore, often times my entries are not optimal and after I post my trade readers can make an even better entry than I did. So, I am not "playing games" with where I show my entries. Before you utter any more criticism perhaps you should do your homework and read a lot more of this thread.

-tah
  • #39,578
  • Oct 4, 2012 2:31am Oct 4, 2012 2:31am
May be I'll join. You don't show the money. I mean...post your real charts. I would like to post in the thread. U
  • #39,579
  • Oct 4, 2012 2:41am Oct 4, 2012 2:41am
Quoting traderathome

Get real, umbro. I've been doing in like manner for over two years here so that the EP, SL and TP in the posted pics. are very clear to any who care to view them (more clear than the MT4 lines). I have no intention of changing for you or anyone else. I post my trade entries real-time, and the conclusion of all of them, too. Get on board and show your stuff like I do, or shut up.

BTW, I don't ask anyone to "trade along with me." Every trader makes their own trading decisions. I make and I lose pips, just like any one else. But I post my trades with pics. as clear as I can make them as an aide to others reading this thread and studying this method.


-tah

  • #39,580
  • Oct 4, 2012 2:42am Oct 4, 2012 2:42am
Quoting traderathome
Get real, umbro. I've been doing in like manner for over two years here so that the EP, SL and TP in the posted pics. are very clear to any who care to view them (more clear than the MT4 lines). I have no intention of changing for you or anyone else. I post my trade entries real-time, and the conclusion of all of them, too. Get on board and show your stuff like I do, or shut up.

BTW, I don't ask anyone to "trade along with me." Every trader makes their own trading decisions. I make and I lose pips, just like any one else. But I...
been trailing this since, looking for another entry if market gives.....
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