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  • #5,081
  • Oct 2, 2012 12:45am Oct 2, 2012 12:45am
It's interesting to see the that the market, once again, seems to show what the news will be......apart for the pivot and the pre-Frankie hour, the sign was there that the Aussie was going to drop. I did not take this trade, but we see the market react to the news before us 'bottom feeders' actually get the news and Genesis + stochs saw it first.....lots of insider trading going on I bet!!
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  • #5,082
  • Oct 2, 2012 12:45am Oct 2, 2012 12:45am
Quoting Martyfish
Stunning trade !!

Wish I'd been awake for it.

Just a gentle reminder, Genesis trade criteria would so no trade before Franky open.

But with such strong H1 stoch, you couldn't say no.

PS: I have my Stoch-MTF with %D showing, helps to show actual Stoch crosses, strength of HTF stoch
Time will tell....
  • #5,083
  • Oct 2, 2012 12:48am Oct 2, 2012 12:48am
Quoting antantnz
Risky in that it's not even Frankfurt open yet ... trading pre Frankfurt is not advised ... you'll probably be lucky and make some pips out of this one as it's probably driven by the Aus interest rate drop ... but, not something to make a habit of, imo.
Yes its b4 FO..wish me luck, but the indis were strongly showed that made me pull the trigger
  • #5,084
  • Oct 2, 2012 2:07am Oct 2, 2012 2:07am
Quoting Zimarz
Comments are wellcome


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Sorry, I'm confused this chart was when you were entering the trade, I thought you meant you entered on the latest Genesis arrow on the chart.

What was your criteria for entrering the trade ?
I am a fallible imperfect person; so I must be a fallible imperfect trader.
  • #5,085
  • Oct 2, 2012 2:23am Oct 2, 2012 2:23am
Closed EJ short + 13 pips

Stoch: H1,M15,M5
Tape: M15,M5 (H1 turned during trade)
Arrows: 5M

Closed on PP
I am a fallible imperfect person; so I must be a fallible imperfect trader.
  • #5,086
  • Oct 2, 2012 2:33am Oct 2, 2012 2:33am
Quoting Martyfish
Closed EJ short + 13 pips

Stoch: H1,M15,M5
Tape: M15,M5 (H1 turned during trade)
Arrows: 5M

Closed on PP
Hey Marty,

Would you mind showing us your chart please ?

Thx

SR
  • #5,087
  • Oct 2, 2012 2:37am Oct 2, 2012 2:37am
EU short +21
Waited for LH LL, then shorted on retracement with stoch and matrix
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  • #5,088
  • Oct 2, 2012 2:39am Oct 2, 2012 2:39am
+20 on EJ
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  • #5,089
  • Oct 2, 2012 2:42am Oct 2, 2012 2:42am
Thanks Guys for posting Charts...
  • #5,090
  • Oct 2, 2012 2:53am Oct 2, 2012 2:53am
Quoting Sjr
Hey Marty,

Would you mind showing us your chart please ?

Thx

SR
Sorry, dont have time.

If you have Genesis template & indis, my criteria for entering should be obvious.

I cant spell it out more plainly on my post.
I am a fallible imperfect person; so I must be a fallible imperfect trader.
  • #5,091
  • Oct 2, 2012 2:56am Oct 2, 2012 2:56am
Cave manager closed my trade +2pips
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  • #5,092
  • Oct 2, 2012 3:00am Oct 2, 2012 3:00am
Its a bumpy market again
  • #5,093
  • Oct 2, 2012 3:36am Oct 2, 2012 3:36am
Quoting Zimarz
Cave manager closed my trade +2pipsAttachment
Why have you got M15 and M30 stochs- thats too close together. Basically tells the same story

Standard TFs are M5 & M15; M15 & H1

Plus you have M15 stoch and M15 stoch tape ????

Plus you you 2 versions of the same Genesis tape ?????
I am a fallible imperfect person; so I must be a fallible imperfect trader.
  • #5,094
  • Oct 2, 2012 3:45am Oct 2, 2012 3:45am
Quoting makron
EU short +21
Waited for LH LL, then shorted on retracement with stoch and matrix
Well done. One thing, I usually don't wait for a LL as long as I see a LH and the signal looks good I will usually go in. For buys I want to see a HL first. If, like GU at this moment, its making both lower highs and higher lows then its ranging and I won't take anything on it at the moment.
  • #5,095
  • Oct 2, 2012 3:54am Oct 2, 2012 3:54am
Quoting realjumper
It's interesting to see the that the market, once again, seems to show what the news will be......apart for the pivot and the pre-Frankie hour, the sign was there that the Aussie was going to drop. I did not take this trade, but we see the market react to the news before us 'bottom feeders' actually get the news and Genesis + stochs saw it first.....lots of insider trading going on I bet!!

It's amazing that genesis indi and stoch tell us to short AU before the announcement of RBA rate .
  • #5,096
  • Oct 2, 2012 3:55am Oct 2, 2012 3:55am
Quoting ronald_fsm
It's amazing that genesis indi and stoch tell us to short AU before the announcement of RBA rate .
That happens surprisingly often with news release....it's not that Genesis is magic, it's just that the news must be leaked out before us bottom feeders get it!!
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  • #5,097
  • Oct 2, 2012 4:32am Oct 2, 2012 4:32am
Quoting realjumper
That happens surprisingly often with news release....it's not that Genesis is magic, it's just that the news must be leaked out before us bottom feeders get it!!

Absolutely !!
I am a fallible imperfect person; so I must be a fallible imperfect trader.
  • #5,098
  • Oct 2, 2012 4:36am Oct 2, 2012 4:36am
Closed EJ long + 21 pips

Stoch: M15,M5
Tape: H4,H1,M15,M5
Arrows: M5

closed on Prior Days high

Closed GU long + 4 pips (grumble,grumble)

Stoch: M15,M5
Tape: H1,M15,M5
Arrows: M5

closed on R1
I am a fallible imperfect person; so I must be a fallible imperfect trader.
  • #5,099
  • Oct 2, 2012 5:08am Oct 2, 2012 5:08am
Quoting Martyfish
Closed EJ long + 21 pips

Stoch: M15,M5
Tape: H4,H1,M15,M5
Arrows: M5

closed on Prior Days high

Closed GU long + 4 pips (grumble,grumble)

Stoch: M15,M5
Tape: H1,M15,M5
Arrows: M5

closed on R1


too bad that I took EU instead of EJ

as EU looks more space with pivot

but it's moving much slower
  • #5,100
  • Oct 2, 2012 5:11am Oct 2, 2012 5:11am
Quoting realjumper
That happens surprisingly often with news release....it's not that Genesis is magic, it's just that the news must be leaked out before us bottom feeders get it!!
I tend to think that all the big firms/banks have huge research/data analysis departments to support their trading teams and most of the times they will have a very good idea of what the soon-to-be-released data will say, so what we see as Genesis 'turning early' is in my view simply these firms already buying/selling in advance (to accumulate a position quietly they buy/sell in small increments so as not to make it obvious).
That's not to say that leaking doesn't happen (I have no doubt that it does happen too).
Still, be glad that you have Genesis to reveal some of that inner workings.
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