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  • #4,961
  • Sep 30, 2012 4:22pm Sep 30, 2012 4:22pm
Quoting traco1
2 user names
Yes
Doing what you like is Freedom. Liking what you do is Happiness.
  • #4,962
  • Sep 30, 2012 4:26pm Sep 30, 2012 4:26pm
Quoting realjumper
Yes
You know transparence is key in this business
Look at something long enough, you will eventually get it.
  • #4,963
  • Sep 30, 2012 4:49pm Sep 30, 2012 4:49pm
What a disappointment. Many beautiful words, graphics, modes (Persin too bold) and then this. I do not know what to serve ...
I hope this does not incrini the credibility and the continuation of this thread.
I hope propio no.
  • #4,964
  • Sep 30, 2012 5:25pm Sep 30, 2012 5:25pm
Ouch! Surprising, isn't it... I have no idea why she did this, only her knows, I don't see what she would gain out of it.

But I'll keep in mind all the good advices she gaves to all of us, and the help she gave the genesis team as a member of that team. Having 2 usernames doesn't make her advices less valuable, she didn't kill anyone, she just had 2 identitys on the public forum, did she uses them to do bad ? I don't think so. Some other that have only 1 username do way worst than that, just go back few pages to read the comments of few that RJ kicked out.

I understand the team's position on it, but I don't think they "crucified" her and I won't either.
  • #4,965
  • Sep 30, 2012 5:40pm Sep 30, 2012 5:40pm
Quoting ttaro27
Ouch! Surprising, isn't it... I have no idea why she did this, only her knows, I don't see what she would gain out of it.

But I'll keep in mind all the good advices she gaves to all of us, and the help she gave the genesis team as a member of that team. Having 2 usernames doesn't make her advices less valuable, she didn't kill anyone, she just had 2 identitys on the public forum, did she uses them to do bad ? I don't think so. Some other that have only 1 username do way worst than that, just go back few pages to read the comments of few that...

it's not the fact that he/she had two usernames that bother me...it's the fact that she posed as two different personalities that actually conversed with one another that is troubling to me...but I'm done with it
  • #4,966
  • Sep 30, 2012 5:48pm Sep 30, 2012 5:48pm
Quoting Roulette
it's not the fact that he/she had two usernames that bother me...it's the fact that she posed as two different personalities that actually conversed with one another that is troubling to me
That doesn't trouble me, as I said, her advices were still good. The only thing I would not approve out of this, is if she did it to build credibility for the thread. But there is so many people in here that push for the genesis method, I don't think her action changed anything.

Of course, I hope this isn't something with her mental health that push her to do this, but other than that I don't see anything so bad about it because I never saw her/them using it agains anyone. This is just my 2 cents...
  • #4,967
  • Sep 30, 2012 5:54pm Sep 30, 2012 5:54pm
RJ or someone from the team,

Could you tell me please, how difficult it is to turn rewritable indicator into non-rewritable? It is an easy job for skilled programmer?
  • #4,968
  • Sep 30, 2012 6:28pm Sep 30, 2012 6:28pm
A new poster... and no I'm not one of the mentioned persons.

I have been lurking for a month, following the thread and trading the system.
Credit goes out to the RJ and all those involved in creating a solid system for others to follow. You can pay a lot of money for a system that often comes with repainting indi's, great backtests, yet fails going forward.
I can attest for some great results using this system. Yes, I have blown up accounts previously, all part of the learning curve I suppose. I can still find trades that never existed as the markets look different after a losing trade or two.
Part of the discipline required to be a great trader is all mental. So Oli I have to disagree slightly in that two persons trading the same system will have totally different results. All because of the mental aspect. That little voice in the head saying, "get in before it moves any further" or "it can't go any further, the signal must be wrong". Loads of questions floating through ones mind at any one time.
Mentally it does get easier because we form new neural pathways that see the set ups so much easier. Yet its still in the head.
Just like we try to take new indi's and fit them to a system that works.
Long winded, I know. However, I will contribute to the thread where I feel I can.
Thanks for sticking around RJ as the system wouldn't be the same without you.

Bryce http://www.forexfactory.com/images/icons/icon7.gif
  • #4,969
  • Sep 30, 2012 6:46pm Sep 30, 2012 6:46pm
Quoting Roulette
it's not the fact that he/she had two usernames that bother me...it's the fact that she posed as two different personalities that actually conversed with one another that is troubling to me...but I'm done with it
It is also possible that the other username was someone else in her household. Like a brother or husbin for example. It's actually possible that she did nothing wrong at all here but FF thinks she did because two usernames were registered using the same IP address.
  • #4,970
  • Sep 30, 2012 8:19pm Sep 30, 2012 8:19pm
Quoting MagicMike
It is also possible that the other username was someone else in her household. Like a brother or husbin for example. It's actually possible that she did nothing wrong at all here but FF thinks she did because two usernames were registered using the same IP address.
No.....there's more to it than a simple ip address check
Doing what you like is Freedom. Liking what you do is Happiness.
  • #4,971
  • Sep 30, 2012 8:49pm Sep 30, 2012 8:49pm
Quoting realjumper
No.....there's more to it than a simple ip address check
Ok I see. Well that's to bad. I guess I was really hoping my last statement was correct since yelena was such a big part of this forum and genesis team.
  • #4,972
  • Sep 30, 2012 8:52pm Sep 30, 2012 8:52pm
Quoting MagicMike
Ok I see. Well that's to bad. I guess I was really hoping my last statement was correct since yelena was such a big part of this forum and genesis team.
I agree....with a bit of luck she will be in touch and we can resolve this issue and move on together.....
Doing what you like is Freedom. Liking what you do is Happiness.
  • #4,973
  • Oct 1, 2012 12:49am Oct 1, 2012 12:49am
Quoting realjumper
I agree....with a bit of luck she will be in touch and we can resolve this issue and move on together.....

I received some very helpful "training" comments from "Minako" early on, and we all appreciate Yelana's impressive reading of the market.

I truely hope common ground can be found and Yelana returns.
I am a fallible imperfect person; so I must be a fallible imperfect trader.
  • #4,974
  • Oct 1, 2012 1:06am Oct 1, 2012 1:06am
The man unlike the other inhabitants of the earth have the reason. So any action we do is dictated by a desire / belief in doing so. Now in the absence of an explanation by Ylenia / Minako, any conclusion is possible that you may be from, egotism, the desire to be seen etc. ..
What is most disturbing, not knowing the reason, are all his / their charts, directions, details of operations even tweak the belief that in a short time you could radoppiare account etc. .. undermining the credibility of the whole system by introducing the halo that anyone can be a good trader publishing charts. (more later, much later). I am personally convinced of the goodness of the whole thread Genesis, but certainly these are not good news. The web is full of scams, the risk is to slip inside.
This is my opinion.
  • #4,975
  • Oct 1, 2012 1:24am Oct 1, 2012 1:24am
Quoting realjumper
Daylight Saving in NZ begins this weekend......so for any Kiwi's here, you'll have to adjust your Market Open Times indicator. I think UK and USA change at the end of October.

So from next week, I'll have to stay up until 3am......and from the end of October, have to stay up until 4am.....lol.....the joys of fx trading
I made a slight error here.....daylight saving has indeed kicked in for New Zealand, but the Market Open Times indicator won't need to be adjusted *unless* the broker is in NZ and is set to NZ time.

My mistake....sorry if I put you guys on the wrong foot.
Doing what you like is Freedom. Liking what you do is Happiness.
  • #4,976
  • Oct 1, 2012 1:36am Oct 1, 2012 1:36am
Quoting olivierforex
I'm not saying that people like him don't have anything to bring as obviously psychology plays a part in trading (but less & less as one progresses)...but I strongly disagree that successful trading is 80% psychology & only 20% methodology.
The phrase "If you can't trade, teach (and make your money that way)" was devised for people like him long ago.
I dont remember did Mark Douglas menthioned somewhere in his book about ration of mental to technical. But for me the ration is not so much important. Only SYNERGY of mental and technical can bring succes to trader. Thats why I posted those quote. This system (i mean Genesis) no doubt is very effective from technical point of view, but to stay succesful with it every trader have to adjust his own mental part - we don't have to try to change (somebody think its improving) system, we dont have to do any prediction, we only have to identify the possibility to trade and use them.
It was very usefyl book to adjust my mental part.
Everything is possible!!! Step by Step...
  • #4,977
  • Oct 1, 2012 2:05am Oct 1, 2012 2:05am
Quoting DmitryFX
I dont remember did Mark Douglas menthioned somewhere in his book about ratio of mental to technical?
Page 6 of 'The Disciplined trader'
Quoting DmitryFX
It was very usefyl book to adjust my mental part.
Yes, see my next post about the discipline/attitude/belief that can be gained from reading his books and PDF copies of 2...
http://www.forexfactory.com/showthre...88#post6055388
  • #4,978
  • Oct 1, 2012 2:10am Oct 1, 2012 2:10am
Quoting olivierforex
Page 6 of 'The Disciplined trader'

Yes, see my next post about the discipline/attitude/belief that can be gained from reading his books and PDF copies of 2...
http://www.forexfactory.com/showthre...88#post6055388
OK, i see. I did not read 'The Disciplined trader'.
I mentioned only "Trading in the zone"
Everything is possible!!! Step by Step...
  • #4,979
  • Oct 1, 2012 2:15am Oct 1, 2012 2:15am
First trade of the week: Long on GU @ 1.61439. Lets see if it goes till Daily Pivot 1.61828.

K.
  • #4,980
  • Oct 1, 2012 2:24am Oct 1, 2012 2:24am
My SHORT failed
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