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  • #4,781
  • Sep 27, 2012 4:54am Sep 27, 2012 4:54am
Quoting baccarat
What do you think about this entry peeps?
The 'hyena' (GJ) is a lot tamer these days; nice entry but bear in mind we are at the top of a fairly true channel + we have R1 at 126.05 + a previous high at 126.08
Edit: + also big round number @126.00
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  • #4,782
  • Sep 27, 2012 4:59am Sep 27, 2012 4:59am
Closed GU long +19 pips

Stochs: H1,M15,M5
Tape: H4,H1,M15,M5

Arrows: M5 arrows lit 4 candles before
I am a fallible imperfect person; so I must be a fallible imperfect trader.
  • #4,783
  • Sep 27, 2012 5:05am Sep 27, 2012 5:05am
Quoting Martyfish
Closed GU long +19 pips

Stochs: H1,M15,M5
Tape: H4,H1,M15,M5

Arrows: M5 arrows lit 4 candles before
Good trade.....the market is a bit jumpy ahead of the Greece vote and turmoil in Spain, so you did well on that pair.
Doing what you like is Freedom. Liking what you do is Happiness.
  • #4,784
  • Sep 27, 2012 5:05am Sep 27, 2012 5:05am
Hi, did enyone take this trade
i know that m15 stoch was almost OS,
but i take this becouse DP was broken
any opinon ?

im in this tread form the beginig, but this is my first post
green pips!
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  • #4,785
  • Sep 27, 2012 5:08am Sep 27, 2012 5:08am
Quoting Martyfish
Closed GU long +19 pips

Stochs: H1,M15,M5
Tape: H4,H1,M15,M5

Arrows: M5 arrows lit 4 candles before
Hi Marty, when you say tape , is it the STSN signal?
  • #4,786
  • Sep 27, 2012 5:10am Sep 27, 2012 5:10am
Quoting dudele2
Hi Marty, when you say tape , is it the STSN signal?
http://www.forexfactory.com/showthread.php?t=381999
Doing what you like is Freedom. Liking what you do is Happiness.
  • #4,787
  • Sep 27, 2012 5:12am Sep 27, 2012 5:12am
Hi guys,

Extremely happy that this forum of knowledge is back together. Kudos to the team of developers. I have been absorbing the posts of the system ever since it began with Symphonie and knew from the start I was reading words of talented individuals. I hope to someday reach your level.

I have a question traco1 if he doesnt mind answering - your candles are pleasing to the eye, I was wondering how you set them up like that? From what I can see on its face-value it is mimicking Genesis? I tried searching for any information on it from your prior attachments and thread replies but had no luck.

Fully understand if its classified, appreciate your help.

Regards
  • #4,788
  • Sep 27, 2012 5:15am Sep 27, 2012 5:15am
Quoting dudele2
Great news, so glad that both of you came back.

Been trading Genesis for a few months live,wouldn't dare trade without it.

S/R, 2 stox at same time (in my case 5m and 15m) retracements, everything I learned here quietly from the team running Genesis.

Yes, to be truthful I test all the indicators that come up in the thread,(demo) but invariably I come back to the Genesis system with the improvements tnat the team made.

Minako and Yelena are incredible,in a few words simply put

[size="5"]WELCOME BACK AND SO GLAD YOU ARE BACK:...
As I mentioned above doing ok, but following the thread, am picking up things from you guys that allow me to see high probability trades better,all the little bits of info that traders use, switching to the MTF stochs great help
  • #4,789
  • Sep 27, 2012 5:16am Sep 27, 2012 5:16am
tks RJ
  • #4,790
  • Sep 27, 2012 5:18am Sep 27, 2012 5:18am
Quoting dudele2
As I mentioned above doing ok, but following the thread, am picking up things from you guys that allow me to see high probability trades better,all the little bits of info that traders use, switching to the MTF stochs great help
Learning to be consistent can be a long process......it took me several years. Hopefully with Genesis and some help for some pretty damn good traders here, that learning curve can be shortened a bit.....
Doing what you like is Freedom. Liking what you do is Happiness.
  • #4,791
  • Sep 27, 2012 5:22am Sep 27, 2012 5:22am
Quoting realjumper
Good trade.....the market is a bit jumpy ahead of the Greece vote and turmoil in Spain, so you did well on that pair.
Thx RJ

"bit jumpy" !!! Master of understatement !!

Reshorted EJ +10 pips

Stoch: H1,M15,M5
Tape: M15,M5 (H1 turned during trade)
Arrows: 15M
I am a fallible imperfect person; so I must be a fallible imperfect trader.
  • #4,792
  • Sep 27, 2012 5:24am Sep 27, 2012 5:24am
Took one trade tonight, EURAUD short @ 1.2374, closed @1.2344 -- 30 pips. This was the closest thing to a perfect setup I saw, the rest was noise. It's 3:30am my time and I'm out of gas, good luck all. Will try and post live when possible.
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  • #4,793
  • Sep 27, 2012 5:29am Sep 27, 2012 5:29am
Quoting longfellow
Took one trade tonight, EURAUD short @ 1.2374, closed @1.2344 -- 30 pips. This was the closest thing to a perfect setup I saw, the rest was noise. It's 3:30am my time and I'm out of gas, good luck all. Will try and post live when possible.
That was a good trade.....well done. There is a lot of tension in the market because of what's going on in Greece and Spain, so you did well
Doing what you like is Freedom. Liking what you do is Happiness.
  • #4,794
  • Sep 27, 2012 5:33am Sep 27, 2012 5:33am
Quoting makron
Good morning to all! Some thoughs about trade:

Stochastics not very good, but trade opened in trend direction and with stoch M5 div, also with retest of S1.

Team, is it a good enter?
Nice one Makron (I've just seen you've closed a winning trade).
If anyone care to look at Makron's post for that EA trade
http://www.forexfactory.com/showthre...27#post6046827
it shows quite well some 'issues' that were mentioned in Polleczko's post:
Again...Genesis is not a pure signal system where a set of indicators just tell you to go Long or Short, it has a fair a mount of 'trader's discretion' attached to it:
...I didn't take that trade because the M15 Stox hadn't quite reached the OB territory but it had been very close (-)
...but as Makron pointed out, on M5 we had a lovely bearish divergenge (+)
...despite not going in OB, the M15 Closed Down on the same candle when the M5 signal was generated so at that moment we had Stox agreement between M5 & M15 (+) on 'Closed-Candle' basis

Last but not least, as pointed out yesterday, I still think that it's a good idea to put the entry line on the signal candle because...

I know that we enter at the start of a candle after a signal but we take our Stox clues at the end of that signal candle (yellow line), so I suggest that as a rule, we put the vertical line on the signal candle, so that we quickly can see where the relevant Stoxs were.

Quoting makron
Stochastics not very good
Your M5 Stox was fine with the line at its 'right' place
  • #4,795
  • Sep 27, 2012 5:42am Sep 27, 2012 5:42am
Quoting olivierforex
Last but not least, as pointed out yesterday, I still think that it's a good idea to put the entry line on the signal candle
Agree 100% with that! In order to be clear to what we demonstrate or ask, showing the signal on the chart is very important, it simplify the chart reading process for the readers and allow them to answer or comment faster, with more accuracy.

Greece vote ?? When is the vote ?
  • #4,796
  • Sep 27, 2012 5:47am Sep 27, 2012 5:47am
Quoting olivierforex
Last but not least, as pointed out yesterday, I still think that it's a good idea to put the entry line on the signal candle because...

I know that we enter at the start of a candle after a signal but we take our Stox clues at the end of that signal candle (yellow line), so I suggest that as a rule, we put the vertical line on the signal candle, so that we quickly can see where the relevant Stoxs were.
Just to clarify that Oli, are you suggesting that we mark the trades on the signal candle, even though we enter at the open of the next candle?
Doing what you like is Freedom. Liking what you do is Happiness.
  • #4,797
  • Sep 27, 2012 5:50am Sep 27, 2012 5:50am
Quoting realjumper
Just to clarify that Oli, are you suggesting that we mark the trades on the signal candle, even though we enter at the open of the next candle?
hmm, good point, I think it should be at our entry... specially that some wait for arrow, some don't
  • #4,798
  • Sep 27, 2012 6:16am Sep 27, 2012 6:16am
Quoting realjumper
Just to clarify that Oli, are you suggesting that we mark the trades on the signal candle, even though we enter at the open of the next candle?
Yes, although we enter at the start of the next candle, we take our Stox clues from the signal candle as it closes. If we draw the line on the next candle, it shows you the Stox situation at the end of that next candle and that's effectively 5 minutes after our decision time.
  • #4,799
  • Sep 27, 2012 6:17am Sep 27, 2012 6:17am
Quoting olivierforex
Yes, although we enter at the start of the next candle, we take our Stox clues from the signal candle as it closes. If we draw the line on the next candle, it shows you the Stox situation at the end of that next candle and that's effectively 5 minutes after our decision time.
Yep.....that's what I thought....thanks
Doing what you like is Freedom. Liking what you do is Happiness.
  • #4,800
  • Sep 27, 2012 6:28am Sep 27, 2012 6:28am
Quoting olivierforex
In Rob's example, one candle later it looks like the M5 Stox was already near OS levels when in fact it really was still just below 50 when the decision to enter was made (yellow arrow).
http://www.forexfactory.com/attachme...2&d=1348663407

Yelena, Minako & I think Olivia already do it, so as per the usual, let's just do as the ladies do and we'll all be better off for it.

Edit: Ooops, only Yelena & Minako show it like that (sorry Olivia), but 2 ladies agreeing with my sentiment is good enough for me lol
http://www.forexfactory.com/attachme...6&d=1348659560
http://www.forexfactory.com/attachme...1&d=1348645261
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