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  • #688,461
  • Sep 5, 2012 10:22pm Sep 5, 2012 10:22pm
Quoting RamsesII
EJ time

nice simple clean chart bro
eurchf doing her thing could support, been listening to boj usual blah blah blah, should be interesting end to week, for big balled gamblers
edit 2600 & 2619 seem to be mini range sticking points be nice to see either one give way
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  • #688,462
  • Sep 5, 2012 10:24pm Sep 5, 2012 10:24pm
Quoting KiwiTrada
nice simple clean chart bro
eurchf doing her thing could support, been listening to boj usual blah blah blah, should be interesting end to week, for big balled gamblers
eur/chf is interesting again... wondering how or if to play it .hmmmm
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  • #688,463
  • Sep 5, 2012 10:27pm Sep 5, 2012 10:27pm
Crashing so I can get adequate sleep for all these important +7:45 am EST news releases later today. Happy trading everyone.
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  • #688,464
  • Sep 5, 2012 10:28pm Sep 5, 2012 10:28pm
LONG 2700
  • #688,465
  • Sep 5, 2012 10:29pm Sep 5, 2012 10:29pm
Quoting klinckphilip
Yes, the US stopped shipments of oil to Japan because they were invading Indochina on their way to India to take their oil. Japan had plans on taking over many areas and controlling the entire pacific as well as other areas. Their Imperialism drove them to do these things. Japan still has no natural resources yet the produce quite a bit. It was their government policies that and protectionism that pushed them to do these things. If they had free trade none of that would have been necessary.
As I thought- this makes so little sense on so many levels... Maybe you should look up the british empire- you know: the thing on which the sun never sets and which was still in place at the time the japs were building their own empire, maybe the french empire or the other european ones colonizing asia. I suppose you know nothing about US's own conquered colonies like the Philippines either which they still had before ww2. The free trade bit is comical given that they rose from feudalism to major power and then from ww2 ashes again on anything but, and they couldn't have run an economy under an oil embargo free trade or no free trade. Not that anybody else was into free trade at this time.
  • #688,466
  • Sep 5, 2012 10:32pm Sep 5, 2012 10:32pm
Quoting RamsesII
eur/chf is interesting again... wondering how or if to play it .hmmmm
yes I did have pending 1.2 sat for ages, when triggered moved to BE but last bloody dip got me, really pissed off, fuk missed pop, dont know for now, snb toying with possible raising floor, is made it a little uncomfortable for now, been scalping couple shorts, but been hardly worth effort, in no mans land now,
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  • #688,467
  • Sep 5, 2012 10:37pm Sep 5, 2012 10:37pm
Quoting SpacyTrader
Err. Sorry. I can't see that as any sort of success. If the banks didnt own the gov the best course would have been to let them fail and just bail out the depositors and then promptly reenact glass-steagall so the banks could no longer gamble with depositors money. Sure maybe you'd have got a bigger market crash, ripple bankruptcies across the world. It would have looked like the sky was falling but things would have come back to normal by now instead of the mountains of debts everybody is under.
gotta agree with this. Let those fuckers starve like millions did over the wotkd because of it. Its not over yet either this is a 20 yr depression we just started. A few bubbles n crash after no qe followed by qe again. We would have gotten out and pain threshold wouldnt have been much higher. ask avg america mostly everyone got hit except bankers. Even in can a tenth of my company was let go.
  • #688,468
  • Sep 5, 2012 10:41pm Sep 5, 2012 10:41pm
Quoting KiwiTrada
yes I did have pending 1.2 sat for ages, when triggered moved to BE but last bloody dip got me, really pissed off, fuk missed pop, dont know for now, snb toying with possible raising floor, is made it a little uncomfortable for now, been scalping couple shorts, but been hardly worth effort, in no mans land now,
at least 2 people talking about trading

my little brain almost toast after reading US politic going on this thread
Mohan
  • #688,469
  • Sep 5, 2012 10:41pm Sep 5, 2012 10:41pm
Gidday traders

Sitting on shorts at 12600

looks like it wants to zoom up

Been caught out so many times going long at the top of the hill

I"ll do a pending sell at 12700

See what happens later on
  • #688,470
  • Sep 5, 2012 10:42pm Sep 5, 2012 10:42pm
Quoting Layzars
Post WW1 Germany is a pretty good example. The problem may have eventually 'corrected itself', but the consequences would have been devastating (hyperinflation and economic depression for years).

Communist China is a great example. If free markets and non-intervention were the order of the day instead of government action that provided a mass of foundational infrastructure and currency debasement, it probably wouldn't have become the explosive economic powerhouse it is today.

2007-2008 is another example. If the government suddenly decided to...

Hyperinflation was created by the government. I am not quite sure what you are comparing here.

A better example of the opposite is Post WW2 Germany. Watch this -
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China is a powerhouse because they have embraced capitalism within their economy and they have grown in spite of the governments wasteful central planning. There are cities with no people and roads that do not get used. They also have achieved some of their advantage as a country by manipulating their currency because the USA has had a deep debt market to buy in. If we did not have a deep federal debt market and they manipulated their currency then they would just be charitable to us by making things cheap and sending them here. Unfortunately we are just as bad as they are in the opposite fashion.

This one you are way off on. The money we spent on the Auto and Banking industries have not yet begun to show their losses.

Auto- http://www.bailoutcost.com/ If the Treasury sold its shares in GM right now we, the taxpayer, would be out 15BB dollars. Not exactly a great deal.

Banks- The banks are much more difficult to figure. Mostly because you have to calculate interest rate risk. They have a lot of it. They have been loading up on low return mortgage loans. If rates rise they have losses. Some of them like BofA just became profitable recently. Thats after 5 years of the lowest interest rates imaginable.


Had we let the market work their would have been job losses in the industries intervened in by the government. Prices would have stayed low. Gas got as low as $1/gallon for a short time where I live. Incomes would have fallen some but prices had already fallen much more. The lost jobs would have been replaced by more productive jobs for the economy.
  • #688,471
  • Sep 5, 2012 10:43pm Sep 5, 2012 10:43pm
Dont sell euro.
Big boys will burn your money !!!

Read this comment at the end of the day.

All are ready to sell, but big boys are gonna buy euro.

U will see
  • #688,472
  • Sep 5, 2012 10:43pm Sep 5, 2012 10:43pm
Quoting Layzars
That's an overtly optimistic view given the depth and breadth of the problem and all the interlinking financial dependencies that would have produced a domino effect the likes of which you've never before seen. It would have been depression with a capital D, and significantly longer lasting than 5 years.
Somehow I dont think it is optimistic. After all the banks don't produce anything. As long as the accounts of actual people and companies could be replenished nothing substantial should have gone wrong with the actual economy. Sure the stock owners of the banks and some wider investors might have seen the nominal price of their holdings drop but as long as the companies were solid and worth the price they paid for them that wouldnt last long. Of course most companies were and still are way overvalued but those values must and will come down anyway if not through deflation then through inflation.
  • #688,473
  • Sep 5, 2012 10:45pm Sep 5, 2012 10:45pm
I am keeping my 2595 LONG TP 2700 or even 2750
  • #688,474
  • Sep 5, 2012 10:56pm Sep 5, 2012 10:56pm
Just because you are long it doesn't mean the market should go long too. And how the hell you know when big boys will buy or sell? today can be any directions no prediction for to day.
Quoting Trader88q
Dont sell euro.
Big boys will burn your money !!!

Read this comment at the end of the day.

All are ready to sell, but big boys are gonna buy euro.

U will see
  • #688,475
  • Sep 5, 2012 10:59pm Sep 5, 2012 10:59pm
Quoting SpacyTrader
As I thought- this makes so little sense on so many levels... Maybe you should look up the british empire- you know: the thing on which the sun never sets and which was still in place at the time the japs were building their own empire, maybe the french empire or the other european ones colonizing asia. I suppose you know nothing about US's own conquered colonies like the Philippines either which they still had before ww2. The free trade bit is comical given that they rose from feudalism to major power and then from ww2 ashes again on anything but,...
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Japan grew because of free trade and free market principals not feudalism. By the way they got the ideas from Brittan.
  • #688,476
  • Sep 5, 2012 11:00pm Sep 5, 2012 11:00pm
my english is bad?

4:30amAUD

-8.8K 5.1K11.7Kau
Employment Change
from 11.7 to -8.8 is not a negative news?-8.8K 5.1K11.7K
  • #688,477
  • Sep 5, 2012 11:03pm Sep 5, 2012 11:03pm
Quoting am-draci
my english is bad?

4:30amAUD
Employment Change

-8.8K 5.1K11.7K
4:30amAUD
Employment Change

-8.8K 5.1K11.7K
4:30amAUD
Employment Change

-8.8K 5.1K11.7K4:30amAUD
Employment Change

-8.8K 5.1K11.7Kau
Employment Change
from 11.7 to -8.8 is not a negative news?-8.8K 5.1K11.7K
Defiantly your copy and paste skill is very poor

2 data was out of australia , unemployment rate was extremely good
Mohan
  • #688,478
  • Sep 5, 2012 11:03pm Sep 5, 2012 11:03pm
Quoting klinckphilip
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a8_Ga3LwKZQ

Japan grew because of free trade and free market principals not feudalism. By the way they got the ideas from Brittan.
Yeah, because saying something makes it so. The british empire ran on mercantilism not free trade: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mercantilism#Great_Britain
  • #688,479
  • Sep 5, 2012 11:07pm Sep 5, 2012 11:07pm
Quoting Trader88q
I am keeping my 2595 LONG TP 2700 or even 2750
i think you are correct
The fragrance remains in the hands of those that gves the rose
  • #688,480
  • Sep 5, 2012 11:07pm Sep 5, 2012 11:07pm
i dont know exacttly when they buy, but look.
BANKS always act oposite the retail traders.
banks are the biggest movers. they should act one hour before ECB or after one hour after ECB confirence.
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