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  • #3,501
  • Aug 31, 2012 9:47am Aug 31, 2012 9:47am
Dang. We got Bernanked.
  • #3,502
  • Aug 31, 2012 9:49am Aug 31, 2012 9:49am
On the basis of FxPro charts I have made quick investigation of ATR (7 days) for last 5 years by EU.
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If look back till 1989 an avereage range was about 119 pips per day.
Last 5 years - 144
Last 4 years - 154
Last 3 years - 142
Last 2 years - 143
Last 1 year - 132
Since January - 114 pips...

So, Autumn should be hot )
Everything is possible!!! Step by Step...
  • #3,503
  • Aug 31, 2012 9:51am Aug 31, 2012 9:51am
Quoting realjumper
Well, the PA is a bit dangerous now......I have everything closed and well above my target for the day, so it's been all good. Makes for a happy ending to a tricky week.

Time for a coffee and then some zzzzzzzzzz
May I ask you RJ. Do you often hold your position for daily , weekly or every position clear by the end of the day? thanks for sharing
  • #3,504
  • Aug 31, 2012 9:52am Aug 31, 2012 9:52am
Wow, what a day! Hope you all closed green for the month of August!
  • #3,505
  • Aug 31, 2012 9:52am Aug 31, 2012 9:52am
Quoting DmitryFX
On the basis of FxPro charts I have made quick investigation of ATR (7 days) for last 5 years by EU.
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If look back till 1989 an avereage range was about 119 pips per day.
That's interesting......I'll have a look at that when I wake up tomorrow. Thanks

Have a great weekend all.......see you back at the Frankie hour next week
Doing what you like is Freedom. Liking what you do is Happiness.
  • #3,506
  • Aug 31, 2012 9:53am Aug 31, 2012 9:53am
Quoting minako
i shorted... coz matrix always gives signal before news but i only risked 0.10 per trade just to be in the safe side. i almost got whacked on EJ. i didn't AU cos it signaled 65 mins prior to news.... just EJ and EU. exited everything... too afraid it will reverse to hit R4 (on EU)
weakness was seen last indicator
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  • #3,507
  • Aug 31, 2012 9:54am Aug 31, 2012 9:54am
Quoting ronald_fsm
May I ask you RJ. Do you often hold your position for daily , weekly or every position clear by the end of the day? thanks for sharing
Always go to sleep with trades closed. I used to leave some open with a SL in place or a trailing stop, but these days I just close when I'm ready to end the day. I can be flexible about sleep time so I will stay up an extra hour if need be, but I lke to sleep with the trades closed and then start the new day with a clean slate
Doing what you like is Freedom. Liking what you do is Happiness.
  • #3,508
  • Aug 31, 2012 10:03am Aug 31, 2012 10:03am
Quoting DmitryFX
On the basis of FxPro charts I have made quick investigation of ATR (7 days) for last 5 years by EU.
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If look back till 1989 an avereage range was about 119 pips per day.
Wow, 2008 was a helluva year!

Here's a website I use to measure each pair's volatility. You can define the number of weeks you want to measure. It also shows you each pairs volatility per hour and weekday:

http://www.forexticket.us/en/tools/02-01-volatility
  • #3,509
  • Aug 31, 2012 10:37am Aug 31, 2012 10:37am
great job Stochastic has not crossed
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  • #3,510
  • Aug 31, 2012 10:38am Aug 31, 2012 10:38am
thanks again to everyone for the advice you gave me, I'm going to Monday
  • #3,511
  • Aug 31, 2012 2:48pm Aug 31, 2012 2:48pm
Quoting olivierforex
Sorry to hear that Wiz: are you at the proper F'furt airport or at the "out in the sticks" F'furt-Hahn airport?
The first one Oli .... 26 hours from US to Italy.... and I missed one of the most movements of the last day eh eh eh eh eh in this business one must have a great patient.

see you next week.

ciao

wiz
You control how you trade; the market controls how and when you'll get paid
  • #3,512
  • Aug 31, 2012 2:54pm Aug 31, 2012 2:54pm
Quoting wiz3003
and I missed one of the most movements of the last day eh eh eh eh eh in this business one must have a great patient.
wiz
Have a safe trip home ... all the various markets will still be here next week rewarding your patience
  • #3,513
  • Edited 4:53pm Aug 31, 2012 4:41pm | Edited 4:53pm
I have a question. What is value of genesis matrix, i compared to Symphonie 3.0.1, and tested for couple weeks, what i see that genesis gives late signals time to time, which makes a bit problem. What is better sides of genesis ?
And I don't understand, but why genesis doesn't repaint, what is the main reason of that ??
  • #3,514
  • Aug 31, 2012 6:35pm Aug 31, 2012 6:35pm
Quoting mavricos
I have a question. What is value of genesis matrix, i compared to Symphonie 3.0.1, and tested for couple weeks, what i see that genesis gives late signals time to time, which makes a bit problem. What is better sides of genesis ?
And I don't understand, but why genesis doesn't repaint, what is the main reason of that ??
You've answered your own question. Three of the four indicators of Symphonie repaint closed bars. The second row occasionally, the bottom two rows, frequently. The bottom 3 rows of Genesis are driven by different indicators that give very similar signals to the Symphonie indicators, after they repaint, but none of the indicators in Genesis repaint. The confidence in knowing that an entry signal of closed bars is not going to suddenly reverse itself at some point in the next 5 bars is significant.
  • #3,515
  • Aug 31, 2012 6:50pm Aug 31, 2012 6:50pm
There has been a couple of questions lately about 'repainting'....and both Cody and I have said that the Genesis Matrix does not, an can not repaint. For those that are too tired to read Post #1, I'll paste the pertinent part here for you: " Genesis matrix, where all 4 indicators do not repaint once the current candle has closed"

And for those who might wish to argue the point, be sure to understand that until the current candle is closed *nothing* is painted permanently......not even the candle itself!!!
Doing what you like is Freedom. Liking what you do is Happiness.
  • #3,516
  • Aug 31, 2012 8:17pm Aug 31, 2012 8:17pm
Quoting minako
never mind. it's not my account that's gonna be part of the 95%. we're not in the business of convincing people nor guess work where PA will end.

I agree minako......and all this 'repainting' crap stems from people not reading Post #1 and/or not doing any testing for themselves.

I'm going to start being a bit more strict with what goes on in here because I'm sick of the repeated questions and other crap that stems from people who are just too lazy to read the first post in the thread, or to do any testing of their own before they engage their mouth, or who are too lazy to use the search function.

I said in Post 1 that this is not a thread for newbies to trading.....it is for people who already can trade.
Doing what you like is Freedom. Liking what you do is Happiness.
  • #3,517
  • Aug 31, 2012 8:19pm Aug 31, 2012 8:19pm
Quoting mavricos
I have a question. What is value of genesis matrix, i compared to Symphonie 3.0.1, and tested for couple weeks, what i see that genesis gives late signals time to time, which makes a bit problem. What is better sides of genesis ?
And I don't understand, but why genesis doesn't repaint, what is the main reason of that ??
so.............. you were not watching the matrixes live, neeeeeeeeee?



you didn't put vertical lines of your supposed entries? and say come back after 20 mins and check if it was still valid as per symph matrix?

tsk tsk tsk. someone's gonna pay the price......

FF is not a paid service. no one can seek customer support. now, if you won't do the basics - like watching the indicators perform live or reading the first 20 pages of a thread........ sorry, no one will spoon feed you here. your question does not deserve a sane answer because it has every evidence of not doing the basics.

i sound sarcastic and angry, but 3 weeks? unbelievable!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

dude, you can tell the difference in less than 20 mins esp during market open hours.test test test. watch what you're testing.



never mind. it's not my account that's gonna be part of the 95%. we're not in the business of convincing people nor guess work where PA will end.
Challenger
  • #3,518
  • Aug 31, 2012 8:49pm Aug 31, 2012 8:49pm
Hiya!
Been a sideline reader and observer for quite sometime on this thread. Read most of the thread by now. I thank all the masters here for starting this thread and providing easy to follow explanation of this innovative Matrix..

Last night I took live trades applying Matrix results as follow:

EJ: +46
EU: +78
GU: +36

Thank you all for making it possible for me.

P.S not sure if its the internet connection or FF server, I've tried uploading the charts had no success.

Cheers
  • #3,519
  • Aug 31, 2012 9:01pm Aug 31, 2012 9:01pm
Quoting sadafgkhn
Hiya!
Been a sideline reader and observer for quite sometime on this thread. Read most of the thread by now. I thank all the masters here for starting this thread and providing easy to follow explanation of this innovative Matrix..

Last night I took live trades applying Matrix results as follow:

EJ: +46
EU: +78
GU: +36

Thank you all for making it possible for me.

P.S not sure if its the internet connection or FF server, I've tried uploading the charts had no success.

Cheers
That's a great result....well done.

I know that FF was undergoing 'routine maintenance' a short while ago, perhaps that affected the ability to upload charts for a short while
Doing what you like is Freedom. Liking what you do is Happiness.
  • #3,520
  • Aug 31, 2012 9:12pm Aug 31, 2012 9:12pm
Hi RJ attached is what I meant yesterday.I ever reach step 5 only but that was two years ago.Can be done with M1 chart with tight stop.Can be done using Genesis.I think you are also one of those who apply this kind of scaling method.
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