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  • #15,281
  • Aug 31, 2012 9:28am Aug 31, 2012 9:28am
Quoting allisonmagic
took a 60 pip profit from my eur/aud trade i've been sitting on for 3 days.. opened at 1.21487 after that release my stop was hit at 1.22107

all trading for me is closed until sunday. Have an awesome weekend guys !

thanks Eval for the awesome system !
Glad your trade went well you have a good weekend too
  • #15,282
  • Aug 31, 2012 9:45am Aug 31, 2012 9:45am
Quoting allisonmagic
took a 60 pip profit from my eur/aud trade i've been sitting on for 3 days.. opened at 1.21487 after that release my stop was hit at 1.22107

all trading for me is closed until sunday. Have an awesome weekend guys !

thanks Eval for the awesome system !

Congratulations and have a nice weekend!

Evaluator.:nerd:
  • #15,283
  • Aug 31, 2012 4:46pm Aug 31, 2012 4:46pm
Quoting mavricos
I have a question. What is value of genesis matrix, i compared to Symphonie 3.0.1, and tested for couple weeks, what i see that genesis gives late signals time to time, which makes a bit problem. What is better sides of genesis ?

ask your genesis questions in the genesis thread
  • #15,284
  • Aug 31, 2012 5:30pm Aug 31, 2012 5:30pm
Quoting mavricos
I am asking Evaluator !!!!

so pm him.. this isn't a genesis thread
  • #15,285
  • Edited 8:32pm Aug 31, 2012 7:56pm | Edited 8:32pm
Quoting mavricos
I don't understand, but why they are saying that genesis doesn't repaint, what is the main reason of that ??
Hi Mavricos,

There are a few differences in the genesis matrix. The genesis system itself is a whole new creation and seems to have very little to do with symphonie any more.

Genesis and Symphonie both use TVi for the first indicator (called extreme on symphonie),
CCI for the second indicator (trend) although it is a different version

and the bottom two matrix squares are completely different for genesis.

In testing you will see that symphonie repaints emotion and sentiment - this means when new data comes in squares that have already been painted one colour may change to the opposite colour.

EDIT: trend repaints too sometimes but only 2 squares

Notice in testing that this does not happen frequently, but it is cause for caution as some times the matrix will paint one colour, then one would open a trade, and then there may be a repaint and the order should be closed.

Genesis is not prone to such a thing but you will notice in testing that instead of repainting, the above will happen, resulting in needing to close the order, the same.

EDIT: It's not prone because of 3 modified indicators on the matrix (check out RealJumper's explanation on his genesis thread page 1)

This is not a very popular opinion with the creator of genesis but my opinion, based on the testing that i have done, is that both matrix indicators (not the system just the matrix) give signals at pretty much the same time.

Also the genesis matrix is tailored to the genesis system, where TVi exit isn't used as an exit, so there is no alarm on the genesis matrix for that.

EDIT: I forgot, there is no TVi exit alarm on matrix 3.01 either only advanced..
  • #15,286
  • Sep 1, 2012 4:10pm Sep 1, 2012 4:10pm
Sorry that wasn't me. I left my account open and my brother get in to here.
I am personally don't like genesis. I am for Symphonie
  • #15,287
  • Sep 1, 2012 4:12pm Sep 1, 2012 4:12pm
I have a question about signal to signal trading. I can't find final results. Is somebody tested for a month ??
  • #15,288
  • Sep 1, 2012 4:34pm Sep 1, 2012 4:34pm
Quoting mavricos
I have a question about signal to signal trading. I can't find final results. Is somebody tested for a month ??

i've been using symphonie since i registered here.. what info are you looking for ?
  • #15,289
  • Sep 1, 2012 8:55pm Sep 1, 2012 8:55pm
Quoting mavricos
I have a question about signal to signal trading. I can't find final results. Is somebody tested for a month ??
http://www.forexfactory.com/showthre...26#post5149626

Search and ye will find
  • #15,290
  • Edited 8:49am Sep 2, 2012 7:04am | Edited 8:49am
Quoting blerkd
http://www.forexfactory.com/showthre...26#post5149626

Search and ye will find
There is couple more pages after that post. I am asking if somebody traded more than that
  • #15,291
  • Sep 2, 2012 10:27am Sep 2, 2012 10:27am
Hello I just got to know about the Symphonie system and would like to know if there is a new version for it.
  • #15,292
  • Sep 2, 2012 5:33pm Sep 2, 2012 5:33pm
Quoting lisahil
Hello I just got to know about the Symphonie system and would like to know if there is a new version for it.

it's at it's newest version. but of course people have added their own indicators to it as their preferences change.
  • #15,293
  • Sep 2, 2012 6:22pm Sep 2, 2012 6:22pm
Short USD/CAD at 0.98385 : target 0.9769

Long EUR/AUD at 1.22440 : target 1.2869

Short AUD/CAD at 1.01331 : target 0.9741


check for signals from symphonie
  • #15,294
  • Sep 2, 2012 7:41pm Sep 2, 2012 7:41pm
Quoting mavricos
There is couple more pages after that post. I am asking if somebody traded more than that
Ahh I see. I haven't collected much data for signal to signal actually, perhaps this is a nice project for someone.. any volunteers? haha.

Evaluator's data for that one week is pretty indicative of the long term results though I would say.. here's some data from friday's entire trading day until now:

m5 signal to signal - 16 trades / 5 profit / 11 loss / 32% / 33 pips

Symphonie 60-5 + Pivot + Sessions - 1 trade / 1 profit / 0 loss / 100% / 100 pips

You could do some backtesting pretty easily yourself, just draw a vertical line in for every time the matrix signals line up

Cheers
  • #15,295
  • Sep 2, 2012 8:58pm Sep 2, 2012 8:58pm
I'm using symphonie in metatrader.. but my live account is in tradestation II

i use metatrader for signals and symphonie.. here's my status, anyone who jumped in on any signals i've posted, hold your positions and make sure you SET YOUR STOPS
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  • #15,296
  • Sep 2, 2012 9:36pm Sep 2, 2012 9:36pm
Quoting allisonmagic
I'm using symphonie in metatrader.. but my live account is in tradestation II

i use metatrader for signals and symphonie.. here's my status, anyone who jumped in on any signals i've posted, hold your positions and make sure you SET YOUR STOPS
Cool. You are very brave to put your signals up!

I think the more information we have in a community like ff, the more informed we are and more confident when pressing the buy/sell button..

What's the system you use.. m15 with h1 confirmation? Your charts look very intriguing. You use heat maps & RSI as well... As primary signals or confirmations?

How do you find trades you make in asian session?

Apologies in advance for the 20 questions, I have only ever gathered data from EUR/USD so I'm a little ignorant to the other options out there

cheers
  • #15,297
  • Sep 2, 2012 9:43pm Sep 2, 2012 9:43pm
Also what do you find are the benefits of using multiple pairs instead of just one?

Is it a money management thing?

cheers
  • #15,298
  • Sep 2, 2012 10:08pm Sep 2, 2012 10:08pm
i post my signals because i want you guys to be profitable.. i want to make sure you guys get the most out of this as i am
  • #15,299
  • Edited 11:17pm Sep 2, 2012 10:19pm | Edited 11:17pm
Quoting blerkd
Cool. You are very brave to put your signals up!

I think the more information we have in a community like ff, the more informed we are and more confident when pressing the buy/sell button..

What's the system you use.. m15 with h1 confirmation? Your charts look very intriguing. You use heat maps & RSI as well... As primary signals or confirmations?

How do you find trades you make in asian session?

Apologies in advance for the 20 questions, I have only ever gathered data from EUR/USD so I'm a little ignorant to the other options out there ...

Don't worry, i love to answer any questions you have.. the first thing is.. i don't have to do any 60 and 5 or 4 hour and 30 minute.. instead of going back and forth i use an awesome little indicator that fed77 gave me. it's called signal bars. i will post it here for you guys. it basically tells me the direction of the overall trends over 1m, 5m, 15m, 30m, 1h, 4h, and daily charts in 1 simple little box on my screen. i definitely use RSI and heat maps ! i love them, here's the links once again if you didn't read my previous post about my system.:


http://www.forexfactory.com/showthre...90#post5965690

http://www.forexfactory.com/showthre...01#post5965701

I trade about 1 to 3 hours after New Zealand opens(lol i get anxious and impatient haha) i NEVER trade the US session. anywhere between new zealand and and the close of the euro session. with my way of trading you can trade whenever you want, wich is so awesome about this way of doing it.. if it wasn't for symphonie, we wouldn't be able to do this ! but i still dont like trading the US session, too many whipsaws and indecision


here's the RSI:

http://www.forexticket.us/en/forex-c...-index#c_index



and these are the heat maps:

http://www.netdania.com/Products/liv...eList.aspx?m=q


I like to keep multiple pairs open because it helps to keep an open mind about what i can trade. i use the RSI to see what's up and what's down as far as movement in the past based on the RSI's hourly chart. sorry i forgot to mention, i trade 1 hour charts only. if i see price action goin a little crazy i'll change to the chart that "signal bars" says is in the opposite direction(one of the bars will turn red or green) so i can see what the issues are.. another indicator i use is demark trendlines for entry. if symphonie gave me a strong sell or buy signal but the price isn't above or below our demark trendlines then i'll wait until we have a breakout(usually on the 1 hour chart)





And yes i definitely use money management ! i use the 1/2 ratio and i only risk %5 of my account at any one time

personally i dont think there is any competition with traders, i dont see any reason why i shouldn't help you guys be the best you can with symphonie, and if you guys need anything from me let me know. i'd love to help anyone who asks


PS: this way of trading, is on a daily basis.. you open a trade on an hourly signal and expect to sit there most of the day ! unless you have some issues where you didn't get in at the right time, then you might jump out til you find another trade opportunity
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  • #15,300
  • Sep 2, 2012 11:32pm Sep 2, 2012 11:32pm
Quoting allisonmagic
I'm using symphonie in metatrader.. but my live account is in tradestation II

i use metatrader for signals and symphonie.. here's my status, anyone who jumped in on any signals i've posted, hold your positions and make sure you SET YOUR STOPS

my stop closed out my trade at 1.01230 for a profit of +10 pips
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