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  • #685,321
  • Aug 28, 2012 6:34pm Aug 28, 2012 6:34pm
Quoting Layzars
Undervalued stocks with Price Earnings/Growth less than 1, acceptable free cash flows, and established growth and dividend yields significantly above inflation (I assume 2.5%), US treasury yields, and industry averages as long term plays; I wouldn't call it trading really.

Options with covered calls so I get paid while I wait in excess of dividend income.

Treasuries are horrible. Inflation will be high. The Treasury bubble will burst. The only stocks trading at a P/E less than 1 are ones with huge problems in the future. So the market priced in problems. I would also be out of stocks.

Be heavy in silver and gold. I would also buy some TMV which is 3X the opposite of US Treasuries.
  • #685,322
  • Aug 28, 2012 6:34pm Aug 28, 2012 6:34pm
this one is scalping..a good dosis of ice white wine from near the town I live...these 2 days were a little bored and I would like some action!!!
  • #685,323
  • Aug 28, 2012 6:39pm Aug 28, 2012 6:39pm
Quoting xandi
this one is scalping..a good dosis of ice white wine from near the town I live...these 2 days were a little bored and I would like some action!!!
got the coors sitting in the cooler marinating on ice as well. your mouth to gods ears, i'm short chf. go eur bulls. at least for the next few hours.
  • #685,324
  • Aug 28, 2012 6:46pm Aug 28, 2012 6:46pm
Quoting klinckphilip
Treasuries are horrible. Inflation will be high. The Treasury bubble will burst. The only stocks trading at a P/E less than 1 are ones with huge problems in the future. So the market priced in problems. I would also be out of stocks.

Be heavy in silver and gold. I would also buy some TMV which is 3X the opposite of US Treasuries.
As in, they have to have growth and div yields above T-Bills. I don't buy T-Bills; waste of capital that could be better employed elsewhere.

Also, it's not low PEs I'm hunting for, but low PEGs. Big difference. So far this strategy has worked well for me; I think I'm looking at a 15-18%ish return thus far for the year.
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  • #685,325
  • Aug 28, 2012 6:50pm Aug 28, 2012 6:50pm
Quoting sdcasper
been 0 to +/- 4 pips for five hours and five beers so will get slightly political. is abortion really an issue anymore. you will never convince each side to change sides. so it will always be an issue that doesn't get resolved. besides. jobs, education, identity theft, kidnappings, pedophilia, white crime, government crime, etc seem to be more of an issue then abortion.

obama will never change america for the better. he was never qualified to run a country in the first place.
last 5 hour are the the worst time to trade e/u for the most part, take a break until london or late asia
Be hopeful in a winning position, and fearful in a losing position.
  • #685,326
  • Aug 28, 2012 6:52pm Aug 28, 2012 6:52pm
Quoting SpacyTrader
........
I mean city might get bailed out by the Fed, but FDIC looks like a joke and not something to count on.
Oh it has "only" been around for 80 years and has covered every qualified insured account to date.

When the U S of A is no longer the FDIC will be no longer.

Where should we put our money instead. Romania?
  • #685,327
  • Aug 28, 2012 6:58pm Aug 28, 2012 6:58pm
a little pulse.
  • #685,328
  • Aug 28, 2012 6:59pm Aug 28, 2012 6:59pm
Quoting Layzars
As in, they have to have growth and div yields above T-Bills.

Also, it's not low PE's I'm hunting for, but low PEGs. Big difference. So far this strategy has worked well for me. I think I'm looking at a 15-18%ish return thus far for the year.
This year will not be indicative of the future. 0% interest rates for 5 years from the FED are puffing up the Treasury market which is puffing up the stock market. As the stock market ratchets down and back up the inflation associated will out pace it on the way up and lay sideways on its way down. You will see your 15%/year returns eaten away in inflation.

Gas prices nationally have gone up $.48/gallon this year. 14.5% up this year. And according to government we have had low to no inflation. So what happens when they actually acknowledge that there is some inflation? 30%/year fuel inflation? What does that do to your returns?

We had low rates in the 60s of 1%, 1%, 2% for three years and we saw 10+% inflation in the 70s. We have now had 0%, 0%, 0%, 0%, 0%. How do you think that is going to play out?
  • #685,329
  • Aug 28, 2012 7:00pm Aug 28, 2012 7:00pm
Quoting sdcasper
got the coors sitting in the cooler marinating on ice as well. your mouth to gods ears, i'm short chf. go eur bulls. at least for the next few hours.
careful what u wish for chf and eur travel together right now
  • #685,330
  • Aug 28, 2012 7:01pm Aug 28, 2012 7:01pm
Quoting Rag2RichesFX
last 5 hour are the the worst time to trade e/u for the most part, take a break until london or late asia
hence the unsolicited political outtake. what else should i say, if the market goes up then it is bullish and if the market goes down it will be bearish?
  • #685,331
  • Aug 28, 2012 7:01pm Aug 28, 2012 7:01pm
Quoting sdcasper
got the coors sitting in the cooler marinating on ice as well. your mouth to gods ears, i'm short chf. go eur bulls. at least for the next few hours.
chf what? usd/chf?
Even the worst trade can close with profit. Just give it time.
  • #685,332
  • Aug 28, 2012 7:02pm Aug 28, 2012 7:02pm
Quoting klinckphilip
......

Gas prices nationally have gone up $.48/gallon this year. 14.5% up this year....
Yeah but back to the same price they were last year.

Not 14.5% higher y/y.
  • #685,333
  • Aug 28, 2012 7:02pm Aug 28, 2012 7:02pm
Quoting sidhujag
careful what u wish for chf and eur travel together right now
eur goes up chf goes down. waiting on the eur bulls to pull my chf bearish.
  • #685,334
  • Aug 28, 2012 7:05pm Aug 28, 2012 7:05pm
attilla this indicator (ticks) is amazing for scalping, thanks again
Be hopeful in a winning position, and fearful in a losing position.
  • #685,335
  • Aug 28, 2012 7:05pm Aug 28, 2012 7:05pm
Quoting klinckphilip
This year will not be indicative of the future. 0% interest rates for 5 years from the FED are puffing up the Treasury market which is puffing up the stock market. As the stock market ratchets down and back up the inflation associated will out pace it on the way up and lay sideways on its way down. You will see your 15%/year returns eaten away in inflation.

Gas prices nationally have gone up $.48/gallon this year. 14.5% up this year. And according to government we have had low to no inflation. So what happens when they actually acknowledge that...
Uridashis + Kiwibonds all over again? [Yes I am from NZ]
yield on NZD, AUD very high,


long term pic could even see NZD/USD at parity. Need China in here to sort out welfare problems. Political environment struggles to make significant changes.

but this is really thinking past what the EUR/USD will do in the next couple of days
Even the worst trade can close with profit. Just give it time.
  • #685,336
  • Aug 28, 2012 7:06pm Aug 28, 2012 7:06pm
Quoting klinckphilip
This year will not be indicative of the future. 0% interest rates for 5 years from the FED are puffing up the Treasury market which is puffing up the stock market. As the stock market ratchets down and back up the inflation associated will out pace it on the way up and lay sideways on its way down. You will see your 15%/year returns eaten away in inflation.
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I don't believe hyper or even high inflation will happen, and I don't buy the line of Schiff et al. You're welcome to disagree, but that's my stance. While I agree the Fed is bolstering the SM and will pull the plug at some point, it will only be when the time is right, or in close enough approximation that any downturn (either absolute, or relative to inflation) will be primarily sentiment and temporary rather than fundamental and lasting.

Now that said, I do like silver (fiat hedge that's utilitarian unlike gold, with growing industrial use/demand), and will probably be transitioning money there along with real estate which has seen a handsome resurgence lately, as well as attention from Buffet.
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  • #685,337
  • Aug 28, 2012 7:07pm Aug 28, 2012 7:07pm
last 4hour bar indicates... maybe some retrace...
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  • #685,338
  • Aug 28, 2012 7:08pm Aug 28, 2012 7:08pm
Quoting sdcasper
hence the unsolicited political outtake. what else should i say, if the market goes up then it is bullish and if the market goes down it will be bearish?
looks like we got volume. asia wants down i think. daily pivot would be a good target, 2535
Be hopeful in a winning position, and fearful in a losing position.
  • #685,339
  • Aug 28, 2012 7:09pm Aug 28, 2012 7:09pm
Quoting Rag2RichesFX
attilla this indicator (ticks) is amazing for scalping, thanks again
can you share please
  • #685,340
  • Aug 28, 2012 7:10pm Aug 28, 2012 7:10pm
Quoting Rag2RichesFX
looks like we got volume. asia wants down i think. daily pivot would be a good target, 2535
yes its what I am looking after during Asian...

but probabli a retest of 2480
Patience, Emotion Control and Discipline.
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