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  • #3,081
  • Aug 24, 2012 7:53am Aug 24, 2012 7:53am
Quoting DmitryFX
Double bottom and divergence at the EJ. Hmmm.....
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For me trend is too strong. Stoch M15 is still on the bottom.

Congrats for your other trades today.

Have a great weekend you all
  • #3,082
  • Aug 24, 2012 7:55am Aug 24, 2012 7:55am
[quote=yelena;5956406]wow! home run! just make sure you have set your SL not at BE +3 ()..... yLow perhaps? somewhere sane, not +3 for all the freaking 5 hours you've spent, not +3

I just took profit at S2 for 65 pips and I am done for the week! Have a good weekend everyone and happy trading!
  • #3,083
  • Aug 24, 2012 7:57am Aug 24, 2012 7:57am
Quoting Kanderpro
Hi Dmitry,
I've been burned trying to pick a bottom with 5m divergence so I have followed RJ (I haven't got the exact quote but I think he ignores divergence on 5m) and Yelena: counter trend trades need momentum in one M5 bar. If it’s not there, it will likely fail.
Kan
It was just note - "something bullish in mind" - for sure trend is down!
Everything is possible!!! Step by Step...
  • #3,084
  • Edited 8:44am Aug 24, 2012 7:58am | Edited 8:44am
Quoting Jandre
I just took profit at S2 for 65 pips and I am done for the week! Have a good weekend everyone and happy trading!
Great job!!!
Everything is possible!!! Step by Step...
  • #3,085
  • Aug 24, 2012 7:58am Aug 24, 2012 7:58am
Quoting Jandre
I just took profit at S2 for 65 pips and I am done for the week! Have a good weekend everyone and happy trading!
Well done......that will make you smile for the whole weekend
Doing what you like is Freedom. Liking what you do is Happiness.
  • #3,086
  • Aug 24, 2012 8:02am Aug 24, 2012 8:02am
Here are 2 last stressing trade(during news i don't do that to oft) green and white vertical line 1 trade 5 pips 2 trade 14 pips i close last one on target1( i am more prudent while 1 atr projection line1 is crossed) but i think it will go more down to target2 of m15
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  • #3,087
  • Edited 8:21am Aug 24, 2012 8:10am | Edited 8:21am
Quoting DmitryFX
Double bottom and divergence at the EJ. Hmmm.....
That's 1 of the 'minus' in my earlier stochastic post: when you use the simplified/smooth version (without the dashed lines ----) you lose information....
In this case the Main & the Signal lines did NOT cross over again as the M5 stox was moving up (orange circle), so NO positive divergence at that time.
Soon after, a hidden negative divergence emerged (red lines) and the price went down.
And now we have a proper positive/bullish divergence (blue lines) with a bounce of S2 at 98.02 and 80% ATR line at 97.96 but no Genesis signal yet.
Care is needed though as it's fighting today's downtrend...

Edit: similar positive stox divergences are also forming in most $ & Yen pairs: EU CJ UC(negative) & even AU...
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  • #3,088
  • Aug 24, 2012 8:30am Aug 24, 2012 8:30am
Quoting tehnobyte
Here are 2 last stressing trade(during news i don't do that to oft) green and white vertical line 1 trade 5 pips 2 trade 14 pips i close last one on target1( i am more prudent while 1 atr projection line1 is crossed) but i think it will go more down to target2 of m15
Heloo
Can you describe your method but more details please!
When you have a little time!
  • #3,089
  • Aug 24, 2012 8:57am Aug 24, 2012 8:57am
2500 is still very much in play and is not going to give in easily. Still, it has been a good session for me and I have closed everything ready for the weekend......It's been a trick week again, but all targets are met, but only just!!
Doing what you like is Freedom. Liking what you do is Happiness.
  • #3,090
  • Aug 24, 2012 8:58am Aug 24, 2012 8:58am
Quoting gtudor
Heloo
Can you describe your method but more details please!
When you have a little time!
If you click on his username, and look at his posts he has described the way he trades in great detail over quite a few posts (weekend reading for you) he used to post in the symphonie thread as well.
  • #3,091
  • Aug 24, 2012 9:02am Aug 24, 2012 9:02am
Quoting ohammond
If you click on his username, and look at his posts he has described the way he trades in great detail over quite a few posts (weekend reading for you) he used to post in the symphonie thread as well.

There's also a link on Post #1 that I put there about an hour ago.

Honestly people......do at least put in some effort
Doing what you like is Freedom. Liking what you do is Happiness.
  • #3,092
  • Aug 24, 2012 9:06am Aug 24, 2012 9:06am
Quoting olivierforex
That's 1 of the 'minus' in my earlier stochastic post: when you use the simplified/smooth version (without the dashed lines ----) you lose information....
In this case the Main & the Signal lines did NOT cross over again as the M5 stox was moving up (orange circle), so NO positive divergence at that time.
Soon after, a hidden negative divergence emerged (red lines) and the price went down.
And now we have a proper positive/bullish divergence (blue lines) with a bounce of S2 at 98.02 and 80% ATR line at 97.96 but no Genesis signal yet.
Care is...
Very often our eyes see what our mind wants to see)))
Sure, it was not divergence but now it is! And its only signal of attention, not to go long immediately.
Everything is possible!!! Step by Step...
  • #3,093
  • Aug 24, 2012 9:08am Aug 24, 2012 9:08am
Quoting tehnobyte
Here are 2 last stressing trade(during news i don't do that to oft) green and white vertical line 1 trade 5 pips 2 trade 14 pips i close last one on target1( i am more prudent while 1 atr projection line1 is crossed) but i think it will go more down to target2 of m15
Just intresting! What kind of CPU and other hardware do you use?
Everything is possible!!! Step by Step...
  • #3,094
  • Aug 24, 2012 9:08am Aug 24, 2012 9:08am
RJ
From what I have read in your posts this year, you have been an accomplished trader for several years.
Has you trading results improved dramatically since you started using sym/Genesis matrix compared to methods you used before?
I realize it has but I would like to know how dramatic the improvement was or whether it is just less stressful than before.
Thanks
Vandag is die dag.....
  • #3,095
  • Aug 24, 2012 9:19am Aug 24, 2012 9:19am
Quoting DmitryFX
And its only signal of attention, not to go long immediately.
In only 2 weeks @Genesis Cafe you have made huge progress !
  • #3,096
  • Aug 24, 2012 9:20am Aug 24, 2012 9:20am
Quoting Leokira
RJ
From what I have read in your posts this year, you have been an accomplished trader for several years.
Has you trading results improved dramatically since you started using sym/Genesis matrix compared to methods you used before?
I realize it has but I would like to know how dramatic the improvement was or whether it is just less stressful than before.
Thanks
Hasn't been a "dramatic" improvement.....more like a gradual set of steps in the right direction. It started with a very good trader (acumen is his nick) who put me onto the virtues of pivots and the general way the markets move. Then I went to the Big E's thread here where I learned about HA candles, then onto Symphonie where lots came together but was hampered by repainting indicators......then we sorted some of that out and profits because more consistent. Finally some of us got togther and tested Xaphods ideas and Cody did some great work incorporating the teams idea and we ended up with a great system of non-repainting indi's which has made the final step to where we are today.

So it hasn't so much been a dramatic change, more of a stepping stone path to cross the river.

I don't think it's possible to have dramatic improvements because there is always much testing involved and subsequent tweaks over time to refine the ideas. Hopefully, every step results in more consistency and subsequently, more profits and more reliable profits.

I forgot to mention another great trader, Atlast, who helped me a hell of a lot too. An excellent trader.
Doing what you like is Freedom. Liking what you do is Happiness.
  • #3,097
  • Aug 24, 2012 9:21am Aug 24, 2012 9:21am
Quoting tehnobyte
I have several request for template so I will post here.

Thanx a lot.
  • #3,098
  • Aug 24, 2012 9:22am Aug 24, 2012 9:22am
Quoting DmitryFX
Just intresting! What kind of CPU and other hardware do you use?
why ? intel core 2 quad 2.8 (4GB ram). If your pc is slow check in expert tabs if you missing some indicator?
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  • #3,099
  • Aug 24, 2012 9:25am Aug 24, 2012 9:25am
Quoting tehnobyte
why ? intel core 2 quad 2.8 (4GB ram). If your pc is slow check in expert tabs if you missing some indicator?
Its heavy !!
Look at something long enough, you will eventually get it.
  • #3,100
  • Aug 24, 2012 9:27am Aug 24, 2012 9:27am
I have a gateway FX and for the 1st time platform is frozen
Look at something long enough, you will eventually get it.
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