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  • #2,541
  • Aug 20, 2012 12:00am Aug 20, 2012 12:00am
Quoting heispark
Or, simple body cross is better and enough?

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Anyway, whipsawed and failed that time...

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  • #2,542
  • Aug 20, 2012 12:13am Aug 20, 2012 12:13am
Quoting heispark
When I get a genesis signal and QQE(5) goes beyond 50 line, I jump in. When CCI(14) goes against and beyond 0 line, I exit. Looks QQE(5) contains trend decently. Any feedback? By the way, do anyone see Genesis in 1 hour+ chart has better performance?

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Or, help avoid poor entry?

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  • #2,543
  • Aug 20, 2012 12:26am Aug 20, 2012 12:26am
Quoting heispark
Or, help avoid poor entry?

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Or trading during the recommended times......
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  • #2,544
  • Aug 20, 2012 12:41am Aug 20, 2012 12:41am
Quoting yelena
good morning.

the recommended operating hours are from Frankfurt open to London Close for EURUSD or european pairs. If you will be doing Asia then use pairs that are volatile in Asia. Some 4 hours ago a high impacting news was released for AUD, then your chances of success was higher for EURAUD as recommended in this post #2494

following the M15 arrow/stochs, i have been shorting that pair.

you have to choose the war you will win and the weapon to use...
Appreciate your feedback! Thanks
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  • #2,545
  • Aug 20, 2012 1:07am Aug 20, 2012 1:07am
Quoting realjumper
Thanks for attaching this Traco. If it's going to prove to be unreliable or a hassle, why not just forget about it and free up your charts and give your CPU a rest. The FF calendar is just a click away after all so it's no big deal to just go there and make a note of any upcoming events.
Could be my platform, I have alot of indi's, need to do some cleaning.
Look at something long enough, you will eventually get it.
  • #2,546
  • Edited 1:27am Aug 20, 2012 1:10am | Edited 1:27am
Quoting traco1
Could be my platform, I have alot of indi's, need to do some cleaning.
Yeah....it's easy to get a folder full of indi's!!
Doing what you like is Freedom. Liking what you do is Happiness.
  • #2,547
  • Aug 20, 2012 1:53am Aug 20, 2012 1:53am
Quoting traco1
New people, you need both files. The file is not mine so if there is a problem, I dont know

I know sometimes I have to reload the indi because it stops working, I dont know why, i'm not a programer maybe someone can tweak it.
Hanovers Plot News Indicator at http://www.forexfactory.com/showthread.php?t=250544 works just fine. There was a hiccup a few weeks ago when FF changed their html methods but Hanover modified the retriever script and it works great. Only thing you have to do is run the script when the new week starts. I show the next 10 events, but that's just for my own liking. You can show 1 or maybe the whole screen height if you are so inclined. You should look for vers. 3-11
  • #2,548
  • Aug 20, 2012 2:18am Aug 20, 2012 2:18am
It would have been a good trade 30 min before Frankie, but it was too close to DP and are not entered.
Wait for the next setup.
  • #2,549
  • Aug 20, 2012 2:25am Aug 20, 2012 2:25am
Quoting Matrix8756
It would have been a good trade 30 min before Frankie, but it was too close to DP and are not entered.
Wait for the next setup.
Yep, I didn't enter either, for the same reason. It's easy to say 'I would have got away with it if I entered', but that is with hindsight and the reality is that it could easily have burned us too!! A proper entry will come along sooner or later
Doing what you like is Freedom. Liking what you do is Happiness.
  • #2,550
  • Aug 20, 2012 2:26am Aug 20, 2012 2:26am
Quoting realjumper
Yep, I didn't enter either, for the same reason. It's easy to say 'I would have got away with it if I entered', but that is with hindsight and the reality is that it could easily have burned us too!! A proper entry will come along sooner or later
Right - Giustissimo

Ciao
  • #2,551
  • Aug 20, 2012 3:37am Aug 20, 2012 3:37am
What did you guys think about that short signal about 10 bars after london open? I took it based on the signal and nice 5m/15m stochs, it is somewhat against the cycle trend though and pushing into a pivot point, the arrow also spawned pretty far into the move.
  • #2,552
  • Aug 20, 2012 3:44am Aug 20, 2012 3:44am
In the rules it states that stochastic has to come from a recent high/low. What I want to know is how recent a certain amount of bars? Maybe 5? Also say the matrix is all the same colour and stochastic has come from a recent (say 5 pips) high or low, but it is now near the opposite high/low. Is this still a good trade if it recently came from the opposite high/low or not? I ask this because I see a lot of trades where the stochastic change has been recent (5 bars or so) but it is at the opposite side of it now and these trades are usually good and sometimes nice 30+ pip trade.

Thanks
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  • #2,553
  • Edited 3:57am Aug 20, 2012 3:45am | Edited 3:57am
FF gave good trades but I did not fixed profit on the time((((
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It was possible 50+ pips... But finally only +10
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  • #2,554
  • Aug 20, 2012 3:50am Aug 20, 2012 3:50am
Quoting Poh
In the rules it states that stochastic has to come from a recent high/low. What I want to know is how recent a certain amount of bars? Maybe 5? Also say the matrix is all the same colour and stochastic has come from a recent (say 5 pips) high or low, but it is now near the opposite high/low. Is this still a good trade if it recently came from the opposite high/low or not? I ask this because I see a lot of trades where the stochastic change has been recent (5 bars or so) but it is at the opposite side of it now and these trades are usually good...
Post your chart with markers showing what you mean....
Doing what you like is Freedom. Liking what you do is Happiness.
  • #2,555
  • Aug 20, 2012 3:58am Aug 20, 2012 3:58am
Quoting realjumper
Post your chart with markers showing what you mean....
Ok here I am showing 2 examples of what I mean, they are on the 2 red lines, first one is right on the euro open and the other one a bit later.
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  • #2,556
  • Aug 20, 2012 4:05am Aug 20, 2012 4:05am
Quoting Poh
Ok here I am showing 2 examples of what I mean, they are on the 2 red lines, first one is right on the euro open and the other one a bit later.
I can't see what your getting at. If you look at Post #2 and compare it to your red lines, then you can see that what you have marked meets the criteria......I'm not sure what you're point is

Edit: Apart from the lack of pivots that is.......
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  • #2,557
  • Aug 20, 2012 4:11am Aug 20, 2012 4:11am
Quoting olivierforex
Plenty of strong support nearby:
Monthly Pivot 1.2341
Daily Pivot 1.2327
Weekly Pivot 1.2322
The area between the MP & the WP has been a battleground all week (long above, short below).

Not part of Genesis trading: I like repetitive patterns not prediction: it's Friday, the last day of the week for the Weekly Pivot and if we break below it decisively (say below 1.2310) we'll likely go much deeper.
This worked out well on Friday but that's not the important bit here...very little has changed as far as these 3 pivots are concerned:
. obviously the MP is still the same (2341)
. but the WP has only moved up 1 pip (2323)
. and the DP has only moved up 6 pips (2333).
In a nutshell, the battle lines are still the same (more or less) so I expect the PA around these levels to be the same too
  • #2,558
  • Aug 20, 2012 4:30am Aug 20, 2012 4:30am
Quoting Poh
Ok here I am showing 2 examples of what I mean, they are on the 2 red lines, first one is right on the euro open and the other one a bit later.
This is my view regarding Stox in order of importance (this is the case on both your red lines/entries):
1) I like the Stox to have been OB/OS (above 80/below 20) to at least show some potential exhaustion of buying/selling pressure in the previous move.
2) I then like my Stox to be pointing the right way (UP in your cases)
3) Only then do I look at the Stox level: I'll be more cautious if we approach or are already around 20/80 but that won't necessary put me off a trade; as we can see in your examples, the Stox can remain OB/OS for a long time while price is still going in the same direction (see potential in 1)).
RJ & others might have a slightly different take on Stox though...
  • #2,559
  • Aug 20, 2012 4:33am Aug 20, 2012 4:33am
Quoting olivierforex
This is my view regarding Stox in order of importance (this is the case on both your red lines/entries):
1) I like the Stox to have been OB/OS (above 80/below 20) to at least show some potential exhaustion of buying/selling pressure in the previous move.
2) I then like my Stox to be pointing the right way (UP in your cases)
3) Only then do I look at the Stox level: I'll be more cautious if we approach or are already around 20/80 but that won't necessary put me off a trade; as we can see in your examples, the Stox can remain...
Thank you very informative, just what I was looking for.
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  • #2,560
  • Aug 20, 2012 4:39am Aug 20, 2012 4:39am
Quoting DmitryFX
FF gave good trades but I did not fixed profit on the time((((
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It was possible 50+ pips... But finally only +10
What is FF?
Do you now enter the trades on these 3 pairs right at the Euro open even if the Genesis signal was a few candles earlier and even if the Stox is very OB/OS already (EY was already at 96/98)?
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