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  • #2,341
  • Aug 16, 2012 6:56am Aug 16, 2012 6:56am
Quoting realjumper
Cody is the best person to fix this I think because he found a problem with another posters arrow issue and solved it.
It could just be price difference on different brokers? If the indicator didn't go below the point where it would paint the arrow then it wouldn't have painted the red one, and in which case there would be no need for a green one because it was already green?
  • #2,342
  • Aug 16, 2012 6:56am Aug 16, 2012 6:56am
I am missing the arrows there as well! hmmm
  • #2,343
  • Aug 16, 2012 6:57am Aug 16, 2012 6:57am
Quoting ohammond
It could just be price difference on different brokers? If the indicator didn't go below the point where it would paint the arrow then it wouldn't have painted the red one, and in which case there would be no need for a green one because it was already green?
Yeah that's a good point Olivia......I hadn't thought of that.
Doing what you like is Freedom. Liking what you do is Happiness.
  • #2,344
  • Aug 16, 2012 6:57am Aug 16, 2012 6:57am
Quoting realjumper
Just a thought......try opening a standard MT4 chart and add the arrow to it with no other indies involved......

there it is
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  • #2,345
  • Aug 16, 2012 6:57am Aug 16, 2012 6:57am
Quoting pete123
Nope, no go. Maybe codyR can throw some light on the subject????

Pete
I've come to the conclusion that it's broker dependent, especially because the level at which those two arrows appear on Magdalen's chart are so close. I'm using Pepperstone, and I also have no arrows on the EurUsd chart at that time. I do have a long arrow at 1330, but nothing after that. Reloading the chart (only that 1) , restarting MT4, deleting and reloading the indicator, and trying 2 alternate indicators all give the same result for me: no arrows in the area they appear on Magdalen's chart.

Olivia and I investigated a similar phenomenon a few weeks ago with the Gann Hi-Lo, and at that time I was using an Alpari account. Again, the cause was broker data, not the indicators.

The indicators are driven by price quotes, and it is the broker's discretion as to when those ticks are sent out. MT4 "ticks" are not like stock ticks. They don't indicate an individual buy/sell. They are simply when the broker chooses to send a change in price. True ECN's are going to send those faster.

I don't think you need to worry about the indicator's accuracy for this.
  • #2,346
  • Aug 16, 2012 6:58am Aug 16, 2012 6:58am
Quoting traco1
there it is
yep
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  • #2,347
  • Aug 16, 2012 7:01am Aug 16, 2012 7:01am
Quoting traco1
there it is
wrong chart sorry guys
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  • #2,348
  • Aug 16, 2012 7:04am Aug 16, 2012 7:04am
Quoting traco1
wrong chart sorry guys
No dice
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  • #2,349
  • Aug 16, 2012 7:05am Aug 16, 2012 7:05am
Quoting Cody_R
I don't think you need to worry about the indicator's accuracy for this.
As an update, I just tried RJ's suggestion of deleting all other indicators, and onto this blank EU M5 chart, adding just the arrow, and again, nothing after 1330 on my broker's data stream. If someone has an MB trading or Dukascopy account they can try this on, please do. MBTrading is a true ECN and sends out almost 3 times more ticks than many brokers. My prediction would be that they also would show the flipping arrows where Magdalen and RJ do.

--Cody
  • #2,350
  • Edited 10:24am Aug 16, 2012 7:08am | Edited 10:24am
I am back after my PC shut down.
Below my trade with explanations.

ciao

wiz

p.s. :
* 1/2 position is still open because I moved to higher TF H1/H4 to let him run.
* SL moved to BE+10

UPDATE :
* Close second half @ 1,2363 +85 pips
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  • #2,351
  • Aug 16, 2012 7:08am Aug 16, 2012 7:08am
Quoting ohammond
It could just be price difference on different brokers? If the indicator didn't go below the point where it would paint the arrow then it wouldn't have painted the red one, and in which case there would be no need for a green one because it was already green?
Top girl
  • #2,352
  • Aug 16, 2012 7:09am Aug 16, 2012 7:09am
[quote=Cody_R;5933818]I've come to the conclusion that it's broker dependent, especially because the level at which those two arrows appear on Magdalen's chart are so close. I'm using Pepperstone, and I also have no arrows on the EurUsd chart at that time. I do have a long arrow .......

Thanks CodyR, I thought as much, just good to know that it is nothing to be too concerned about.

@ RJ Thanks for your trouble as well. Much obliged!

Pete
  • #2,353
  • Aug 16, 2012 7:12am Aug 16, 2012 7:12am
Quoting yelena
here's my dukascopy live account m15 and m5 arrows.
What are those dots ?
Look at something long enough, you will eventually get it.
  • #2,354
  • Aug 16, 2012 7:12am Aug 16, 2012 7:12am
[quote=pete123;5933876]
Quoting Cody_R
I've come to the conclusion that it's broker dependent, especially because the level at which those two arrows appear on Magdalen's chart are so close. I'm using Pepperstone, and I also have no arrows on the EurUsd chart at that time. I do have a long arrow .......

Thanks CodyR, I thought as much, just good to know that it is nothing to be too concerned about.

@ RJ Thanks for your trouble as well. Much obliged!

Pete
Glad we got it sorted....thanks Olivia & Cody
Doing what you like is Freedom. Liking what you do is Happiness.
  • #2,355
  • Aug 16, 2012 7:15am Aug 16, 2012 7:15am
Quoting yelena
here's my dukascopy live account m15 and m5 arrows.
Thanks, yelena. Yours looks just like mine. I thought Duke might show the flip since their data stream is so highly regarded and accurate. The indicator is reporting what it's seeing from the broker, as Olivia said.
  • #2,356
  • Aug 16, 2012 7:15am Aug 16, 2012 7:15am
Enclosed you can find a spreadsheet file I made some times ago to design your equity growth.
You "simply" have to decide the daily pips goal and fill in the yellow cells to simulate what you ant.

enjoy it.

ciao

wiz
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  • #2,357
  • Aug 16, 2012 7:17am Aug 16, 2012 7:17am
Quoting traco1
What are those dots ?
They are the MTF Arrow representing the M15 timeframe. Don't worry about it for now, we are still testing this and if the tests are reliable and profitable after a months testing, we will create a document explaining it all to everyone. For now, it is in the testing phase
Doing what you like is Freedom. Liking what you do is Happiness.
  • #2,358
  • Aug 16, 2012 7:20am Aug 16, 2012 7:20am
Quoting yelena
@dimitry, easy money again today, no? 2 sets of entries only. enjoying so far? you will not go live until you double that demo account. you see at 50 pips a day, you will still be able to double in less than 5 weeks even with 5 days of -50 pips. 5 weeks of holding your horses is a cheap tuition than burning your first real $10,000 acct. the market will still be there.
Yelena, today I have made good trades. But without good profit(((
EU:
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I took the trade right time and placed TP at S1 level.
But price was not touched it and closed it after opposite signal with -1 pips.
Immideately after I went long but also close it after opposite signal with -5 pips. After it I did not take long trade because of too close pivot...
EY:
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Again my first trade target was not filled and I closed it with +3pips.
Immideately after I have get short signal again and went short but closed it with opposite signal with - 7 pips..
Now I went long, but closed before NY((((

As I can see from your charts, your profit target are really different from usual S/R levels. What is your reason ?
Everything is possible!!! Step by Step...
  • #2,359
  • Aug 16, 2012 7:21am Aug 16, 2012 7:21am
Quoting realjumper
They are the MTF Arrow representing the M15 timeframe. Don't worry about it for now, we are still testing this and if the tests are reliable and profitable after a months testing, we will create a document explaining it all to everyone. For now, it is in the testing phase
gotcha, thanks
Look at something long enough, you will eventually get it.
  • #2,360
  • Aug 16, 2012 7:27am Aug 16, 2012 7:27am
I got my target after all......so now it's bed time...2.30am zzzzzzzzzz see you all tomorrow/today
Doing what you like is Freedom. Liking what you do is Happiness.
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