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  • #1,801
  • Aug 8, 2012 9:34am Aug 8, 2012 9:34am
Thank you Bubola I'll do that now.

Angela
  • #1,802
  • Aug 8, 2012 9:42am Aug 8, 2012 9:42am
Quoting Angie 2012
What I mean is if you look at the last sell arrow it is not showing sell on the genesis indicator but it was showing all red bars on someone else's chart, hope this makes sense.

Angela
You are also missing the T3_2ColorHisto file in your experts\indicators. It is in the zip file on Page 1.
  • #1,803
  • Aug 8, 2012 10:50am Aug 8, 2012 10:50am
Hi Guys,

I must say you people are "Genius". While reading forum yesterday late night, I came across your thread and thought to give it try. This morning I attached your genesis indicator to my existing setup and used with my own strategy. This proved to give very positive results. After london open I took all trades on EURUSD till 5pm and gained almost 60 pips. Thanks once again.

Shamnonu
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  • #1,804
  • Aug 8, 2012 11:01am Aug 8, 2012 11:01am
Quoting shamnonu
Hi Guys,

I must say you people are "Genius". While reading forum yesterday late night, I came across your thread and thought to give it try. This morning I attached your genesis indicator to my existing setup and used with my own strategy. This proved to give very positive results. After london open I took all trades on EURUSD till 5pm and gained almost 60 pips. Thanks once again.

Shamnonu
Great job, shamnonu!

Did we mention the monthly commission?

It's in the small print...

  • #1,805
  • Aug 8, 2012 11:14am Aug 8, 2012 11:14am
yes i did see somewhere mentioned as "Zero commission=Charity".. Thanks
  • #1,806
  • Aug 8, 2012 11:58am Aug 8, 2012 11:58am
Quoting Cody_R
If you look at a decompiled source of the arrow indicator, it is mathematically identical to the ASCTrend indicator, including the use, internally, of the Wiilliams Percent R indicator, and drawing the arrow.
Hi Cody_R,
i've been looking for this information about "arrow" accurately.
the tip of the dpo application is also well. Thanks a lot!

Do you know even if there is a genesis system "colored candle indicator"?
So if the genesis indi are complete at one color, the chart chart candles are in the same trend color, otherwise just gray. At symphony system, there are a candles colored indicator, for genesis unfortunately, isīn it?
  • #1,807
  • Aug 8, 2012 12:11pm Aug 8, 2012 12:11pm
Quoting genaja
Do you know even if there is a genesis system "colored candle indicator"?
So if the genesis indi are complete at one color, the chart chart candles are in the same trend color, otherwise just gray. At symphony system, there are a candles colored indicator, for genesis unfortunately, isīn it?
genaja,

I think you are looking for the STSn Tape indicator. Xaphod has provided one here. The indicators are the same ones used in Genesis. There are 3 zip files on that page, the STSn (for non-repainting) zip is the one you want.

--Cody
  • #1,808
  • Aug 8, 2012 12:52pm Aug 8, 2012 12:52pm
Great trading today.. there were some nice and easy setups in the market.
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  • #1,809
  • Aug 8, 2012 1:20pm Aug 8, 2012 1:20pm
Quoting yelena
thx rj. even til today (its like your indispensable stochs). i reduced "M5 to H1 method" to SMA60 some time in April (hated switching TFs). EJ EU and CJ are similar, GU GJ similar. (sell below sma and vice versa) so i've been shorting all day. the buy in GU GJ took me by surprise so i didn't take those.

re fibs: exits via pivot prices are far more reliable and noteworthy. exit 50% at pivot, protect remaining at +2 and TP the next pivot. but most of the time exit 100% at pivot

more green pips to everyone
Is there a way to see the H1 arrow on the 5M chart?
  • #1,810
  • Aug 8, 2012 1:27pm Aug 8, 2012 1:27pm
I hope this is not a daft question, but I have spent most of today getting my indicators right, could I not have just used the template that was in the genesis file instead?

Thanks Angela
  • #1,811
  • Aug 8, 2012 1:56pm Aug 8, 2012 1:56pm
Quoting Cody_R
genaja,

I think you are looking for the STSn Tape indicator.
Hi Cody,

I know the editional indicators from STSn, but the Tape is not what I mean.

I mean a Candle Set Indi like that from symphonie. See Picture.
If the genesis matrix are complete blue, the candles of the chart are blue.
if all indicator dots are red, the candles are red. If there are no signal long oder short, the candles are yellow or what ever.

Thats a nice tool for visual support.
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  • #1,812
  • Aug 8, 2012 2:07pm Aug 8, 2012 2:07pm
Quoting Angie 2012
I hope this is not a daft question, but I have spent most of today getting my indicators right, could I not have just used the template that was in the genesis file instead?

Thanks Angela
You could have done if you had all the indicators in your experts/indicators folder but it looks like some were missing when you put them in.
  • #1,813
  • Edited 2:35pm Aug 8, 2012 2:14pm | Edited 2:35pm
Quoting Angie 2012
I hope this is not a daft question, but I have spent most of today getting my indicators right, could I not have just used the template that was in the genesis file instead?

Thanks Angela
From the snap shot that you posted earlier, no. You were missing files out of your experts\\indicators folder. Loading a template onto your chart, in that case, would have just shown the indicators of the template that you *did* have in that folder. Which is pretty much what your pic shows.

Additionally, if you close MT4 at that point, the template will be updated to only expect the files you have.

On the other hand, once all of those indicators have been properly placed into their folder, and the template from the Genesis zip download is reloaded into the templates folder that is directly under the main MT4 folder, attaching that template will give you what you want. MT4 tries to be helpful by updating the template and profile when you close it, but in some cases, that can just confuse things.

Hope this helps explain how things are related.
--Cody
  • #1,814
  • Edited 9:19pm Aug 8, 2012 2:21pm | Edited 9:19pm
Quoting shamnonu
Hi Guys,

I must say you people are "Genius". While reading forum yesterday late night, I came across your thread and thought to give it try. This morning I attached your genesis indicator to my existing setup and used with my own strategy. This proved to give very positive results. After london open I took all trades on EURUSD till 5pm and gained almost 60 pips. Thanks once again.

Shamnonu
Hi Shamnonu
Interesting candles you have there... I assume it's a bar chart with 'fattened' wicks.
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I've been using something that looks visually similar but using the HA candle bodies. (no wicks)
It's psychologically effective at preventing premature entries (aka trying to 'pick' tops/bottoms)
It forces you to relax and wait for your signals to mature.
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I want to say a big THANKYOU to the genesis team.... you guys are awesome and staying on track with sound advice and a beautiful indicator.
Cheeers!!
Randy
"You Never Know.....Until You Find Out."
  • #1,815
  • Aug 8, 2012 2:33pm Aug 8, 2012 2:33pm
Quoting genaja
I mean a Candle Set Indi like that from symphonie. See Picture.
If the genesis matrix are complete blue, the candles of the chart are blue.
if all indicator dots are red, the candles are red. If there are no signal long oder short, the candles are yellow or what ever.

Thats a nice tool for visual support.
I don't have such a beast. If you have the mq4 file, I can look at adapting it for Genesis.
  • #1,816
  • Aug 8, 2012 2:45pm Aug 8, 2012 2:45pm
Thank you Cody and Ohammond, it does indeed clarify everything and I am grateful for your help, my charts now look super and I hope to start trading tomorrow

Angela
  • #1,817
  • Aug 8, 2012 2:53pm Aug 8, 2012 2:53pm
Quoting Angie 2012
Thank you Cody and Ohammond, it does indeed clarify everything and I am grateful for your help, my charts now look super and I hope to start trading tomorrow

Angela
Glad to hear it, Angela. Good trading to you.
  • #1,818
  • Aug 8, 2012 3:41pm Aug 8, 2012 3:41pm
Quoting goldenequity
Hi Shamnonu
Interesting candles you have there... I assume it's a bar chart with 'fattened' wicks.
Attachment

I've been using something that looks visually similar but using the HA candle bodies.
Attachment

I want to say a big THANKYOU to the genesis team.... you guys are awesome and staying on track with sound advice and a beautiful indicator.
Cheeers!!
Randy
Yes Randy. And these guys are really genius.
  • #1,819
  • Aug 8, 2012 3:47pm Aug 8, 2012 3:47pm
Quoting olivierforex
These are the principles of H1-M5 trading:

1. you first want confirmation of the trend/direction in the higher TF (H1): this is because a trend in the higher TFs will generally be stronger, last for longer and give you more pips than a M5 trend (the downside of H1 is that you will need wider SL, you will get fewer signals and probably will have larger drawdown too....)
2. once you have a new signal in H1, the trend will have turned and you will already be quite a few pips away from the previous top/bottom, but that's ok - it's better...
Movement in the 1hr would have to be strong
Look at something long enough, you will eventually get it.
  • #1,820
  • Aug 8, 2012 4:25pm Aug 8, 2012 4:25pm
Quoting shamnonu
Yes Randy. And these guys are really genius.
quick question if not intruding..which indicator are using that is not giving wicks..is it obo trend indicator and i can see a volatility based indiacator with stops..i would be grateful if you can share but still would understand (though sad)if you couldnt..thanks in advance
Carpe Diem
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