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  • #38,421
  • Edited 8:30am Aug 7, 2012 8:17am | Edited 8:30am
Quoting emmanuel7788
Hi,

using GBPUSD as example today.
As traders, we must know when to cut loss.
We enter a trade using sonicR setup but do you know when to cut loss. There are several possible historical resistance to place SL.

when your sonicR setup fails, do you know how to take the turnaround trade like today. Or do you stay out until you see another sonicR setup.

regards,
I donīt consider taking any shorts when you are near a demand area, ie selling into possible trouble. thereby filtering out the setup.

Regards,
H.
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  • #38,422
  • Aug 7, 2012 8:32am Aug 7, 2012 8:32am
Quoting worldfreedom
I have entered short AUD.CAD see diagram

closed for 27pips before CAD news release in 30min.
  • #38,423
  • Edited 12:42pm Aug 7, 2012 12:29pm | Edited 12:42pm
Quoting traderathome
Market Comment:

During the first hour of the London session AU, EU, GU, were driven up with high trading at the top of the drives. UCad was driven down, with high trading at the lows. Using AU as an example, this pair was spiked up in the asian session. And now again in the LS. And maybe again in the early US session. We won't know until then. But it sure looks like anti-USD positions are being closed and maybe pro-USD positions opened. And that this has been the sole purpose of these moves; to get a more favorable price area to begin and...
Market Comment Continued:

With just about an hour to go before FED Chairman Bernanke speaks, the USD pairs have been moved nicely in the anti-USD direction over the previous hours, followed by heavy trading. Continuing with AU as an example, this has now started falling. It has broken a lower TL, and as I suspect all the rest of this type will become, it has become a USD strength setup. In this case, a Sonic R. Short.

Good trading to all this week!
-tah
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  • #38,424
  • Edited 12:58pm Aug 7, 2012 12:38pm | Edited 12:58pm
I've been mostly a lurker in this thread as I learn Sonic. I'd like to thank the mentors here, it's a great system. I am posting a chart, gbpusd M15, with my reasons for stalking a long position. It has EW counts. I apologize for the amount of stuff in the chart, it's probably hard to read for many. I am asking for critical analysis of my use of Sonic and my analysis.

I am staking a long entry when PA closes a candle above the dragon but would probably not enter short as wave c seems like it could drop to the .50 Fib at 1.5620, even then I think I'll be stalking a long. It's also possible the retracement is already over.

Thanks in advance. Grins

BTW, it's a demo, not my live account, in the future I'll crop the Terminal window out.

BBTW: Bernanke strives to support equities generally since they are where American's retirement wealth resides. EW stuff, a c=a retrace would be the .50 fib at 1.5623
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  • #38,425
  • Edited 1:23pm Aug 7, 2012 12:59pm | Edited 1:23pm
Quoting Grins
I've been mostly a lurker in this thread as I learn Sonic. I'd like to thank the mentors here, it's a great system. I am posting a chart, gbpusd M15, with my reasons for stalking a long position. It has EW counts. I apologize for the amount of stuff in the chart, it's probably hard to read for many. I am asking for critical analysis of my use of Sonic and my analysis.

I am staking a long entry when PA closes a candle above the dragon but would probably not enter short as wave c seems like it could drop to the .50 Fib at 1.5620, even then I think...
Grins, can't comment on your EW analysis (maybe Jayjonbeach can since he is into that stuff), but Bernanke holds the cards now. Seems mostly to me that today's preceding PA has been posturing for the upcoming event of his speech. We will know soon enough. Meanwhile, GU PA has risen thru two S&R levels and failed to attain the previous high (M30 chart). PA has formed a wedge like pattern, which if valid is a harbinger of downside to come.

There is no new M15 Sonic R. setup for either direction. Now we just have to wait to see what the market decides. I will add that from a psycological view, the market has swung price up about 120 pips, and if it next swings price back down towards RDL then the market will get more than "Double Bang" for it's buck.
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  • #38,426
  • Aug 7, 2012 1:10pm Aug 7, 2012 1:10pm
Thanks TAH, my dragon and 89 are set on EMA, how did you switch it to SMA and please tell me why you find it more useful.

Grins
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  • #38,427
  • Aug 7, 2012 1:15pm Aug 7, 2012 1:15pm
Quoting Grins
Thanks TAH, my dragon and 89 are set on EMA, how did you switch it to SMA and please tell me why you find it more useful.

Grins
Not conclusive that it is more useful. For now, that is just a comparative experiment. Your Dragon is not coded to alter the MA type thru the External Inputs. And no need to change anything has arisen.
  • #38,428
  • Aug 7, 2012 1:30pm Aug 7, 2012 1:30pm
Quoting traderathome
Not conclusive that it is more useful. For now, that is just a comparative experiment. Your Dragon is not coded to alter the MA type thru the External Inputs. And no need to change anything has arisen.
Got it, thanks
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  • #38,429
  • Aug 7, 2012 2:18pm Aug 7, 2012 2:18pm
EU:

AU already set up for a short. This one is consolidating, but might soon also become a short setup,......#2!
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  • #38,430
  • Aug 7, 2012 2:19pm Aug 7, 2012 2:19pm
GU:

This one is also consolidating, and might soon become a short setup,....#3!
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  • #38,431
  • Edited 4:55pm Aug 7, 2012 2:54pm | Edited 4:55pm
Sonicers!

Lest we be without good lessons here and there, here is one now.

Look at the M1 chart. Note the high trading activity at highs and moving down off of highs. And note the progression of PA down, first heavily traded at highs/coming off of highs so that PA drops, and then PA is "worked" back up for a resumption of heavy trading/selloffs.

This progression of PA down, up a bit, more down, up a bit, more down etc. signals the market is in a selling mood. One can only wonder, what with all the sellling motivated PA, where any "buyers" are coming from to take the opposite side of all this selling! And how are the sellers getting the prices back up so they can resume selling off at higher prices?

I will leave you all to your imaginations for answers....

-tah
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  • #38,432
  • Aug 7, 2012 3:54pm Aug 7, 2012 3:54pm
Quoting traderathome
Sonicers!

Lest we be without good lessons here and there, here is one now.

Look at the M1 chart. Note the high trading activity at highs and moving down off of highs. And note the progression of PA down, first heavily traded at highs/coming off of highs so that PA drops, and then PA is "worked" back up for a resumption of heavy trading/selloffs.

This progression of PA down, up a bit, more down, up a bit, more down etc. signals the market is in a selling mood. One can only wonder, what with all the sellling motivated PA, where any...
Yes!! I love it when light bulbs come on! Thanks to you, TAH, and the other Sonic mentors here, it's greatly appreciated!

Grins
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  • #38,433
  • Aug 7, 2012 7:25pm Aug 7, 2012 7:25pm
Quoting traderathome
Sonicers!

Lest we be without good lessons here and there, here is one now.

Look at the M1 chart. Note the high trading activity at highs and moving down off of highs. And note the progression of PA down, first heavily traded at highs/coming off of highs so that PA drops, and then PA is "worked" back up for a resumption of heavy trading/selloffs.

This progression of PA down, up a bit, more down, up a bit, more down etc. signals the market is in a selling mood. One can only wonder, what with all the sellling motivated PA, where any...

Well tomorrow we will see some fakeys i assume. There is 2 possibilities: 1 price will hammer down from the early london session, or it will retrace back to the 4h tunnel to eat stop losses then big move shor to get cheeper price to pull market even lower. 2 is to make all signals to show short patterns and signals and shoot price long to get stop losses. But i personally favour 1 as we have natural couses of EUR to drop. So it would be easyer to follow the market, not to fight it.

What do you think?
There is no spoon....
  • #38,434
  • Aug 7, 2012 8:07pm Aug 7, 2012 8:07pm
Hi all, I have been following this group now. First post!

Would love to introduce myself. I got involved in FX after attending a Knowledge to Action seminar. I have paid for various programs and it has been an intense 6 months. I know like all things it takes 10K hours to master something! I'm putting in the time!

You may know J-Sharpie. He is a regular albeit. new poster, he is my brother and is the one who showed me the Sonic R system. It is great to have another person around to learn together with. We find ourselves having weekly talks that last for a couple hours about FX and Trading in general.
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I have a question about the below quote which seems to go... a little... against what I thought was the "True Sonic R". I am not calling out people or anything like that; i am seeking the truth.

A post was placed that I was using

Sharpie and I have been talking about what "The dragon" is supposed to do for us and I have come to enjoy TAH's writings and input into this thread. We were lucky that the very next day he wrote the following.

However... it went a little against what I thought was Sonic R. I used the following picture as my guide for Sonic R. (It was when I saw it I felt the Sonic R. Clicked! And I made my first 4% using the system.)

But now that TAH wrote the below I find myself hesitant and confused about how to insert my trades, as he describes "Shitty Wave trades".

Please educate and correct me if I am wrong. I believed before this below post that the a trade is used when when a wave is going "through" the dragon.

Questions.

1.Is what TAH saying below saying that the Dragon is supposed to give indication of trend strength and not to enter a trade if it is not going in a direction?

2.TAH is also saying to go short when PA is below the dragon, and long when PA is above the dragon. This does not seem to reflect completely accurately with what is in the "Sonic R. Mindset" picture I also included in this post... at the same token, TAH is also saying that when the PA is too far away from the dragon to not answer-> this makes sense, but does this not contradict what he is saying about PA/Wave being below or above the dragon? (I thought good entries were waves "THROUGH" the dragon. Not if it is above or below )

3.One last thing. Is TAH also saying that placing both Long + Short entries is not the right thing to do? According to "The Sonic R Mindset" picture, it seems to be the way to go.

Please provide input! As I saw many were confused and taken aback by the below post!


Thank you, this is not a knock against TAH or anyone ; just looking for THE TRUTH!

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Quoting traderathome
Why the Dragon?

A few posters (they only drop in occassionally) say the Dragon is not needed. That is, they imply that once you become a "better trader" you won't need the Dragon, like the Dragon is some kind of training wheels! One such poster recently illustrated trading PA waves, posted a vid of one of the "Turtles" that discussed their "PA wave trading" method, and actually proposed entering trades when PA was on the wrong side of the Dragon (according to the Sonic R. System).

Should we throw out the Dragon? We, ourselves,...
  • #38,435
  • Aug 7, 2012 10:45pm Aug 7, 2012 10:45pm
Hi TAH,

My charts shows LO open one hour earlier. Is there any way I can fix it? I am with forex.com UK.
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  • #38,436
  • Aug 7, 2012 10:53pm Aug 7, 2012 10:53pm
Quoting Daniel3167
Hi TAH,

My charts shows LO open one hour earlier. Is there any way I can fix it? I am with forex.com UK.
Edit SonicR Control Panel indicator and chagne GMT Broker offset
Keep Simple...!
  • #38,437
  • Aug 7, 2012 11:39pm Aug 7, 2012 11:39pm
Quoting Daniel3167
Hi TAH,

My charts shows LO open one hour earlier. Is there any way I can fix it? I am with forex.com UK.
The vLines are computed automatically and will be correct. So, if they are not, then you have "Apply_it_Now" as "true" in the Preface of the External Inputs. This should be "false". Before ever setting it to true, you must set your "Broker_GMT_Offset" according to instructions in the indicator User Notes at the top of the compile of the indicator code. Then you can use the "true" setting when there is no live data feed (weekends and holidays). At all other times "false" should be the setting so that the sophisticated coding will keep the lines proper whenever there is live feed.

Chances are your proper "Broker..." number is "1" during that part of the year the broker server in London is on DST. During the winter/non-DST months, it is likely "0" and will have to be changed. READ AND FOLLOW THE USER NOTES!!!!!!!!
  • #38,438
  • Aug 8, 2012 12:17am Aug 8, 2012 12:17am
Quoting traderathome
The vLines are computed automatically and will be correct. So, if they are not, then you have "Apply_it_Now" as "true" in the Preface of the External Inputs. This should be "false". Before ever setting it to true, you must set your "Broker_GMT_Offset" according to instructions in the indicator User Notes at the top of the compile of the indicator code. Then you can use the "true" setting when there is no live data feed (weekends and holidays). At all other times "false" should be the setting so that the sophisticated coding will keep...

Thanks TAH for your reply, I went through user notes and I have the settings you mentioned. now it's 1:15 AM EST time and London session will start in 1:45 hours; however my vlines are showing LONDON will open in 45 minutes, that's my confusion!!
  • #38,439
  • Edited 1:28am Aug 8, 2012 12:44am | Edited 1:28am
Quoting Discipliner
Hi all, I have been following this group now. First post!

Would love to introduce myself. I got involved in FX after attending a Knowledge to Action seminar. I have paid for various programs and it has been an intense 6 months. I know like all things it takes 10K hours to master something! I'm putting in the time!

You may know J-Sharpie. He is a regular albeit. new poster, he is my brother and is the one who showed me the Sonic R system. It is great to have another person around to learn together with. We find ourselves having weekly talks that...
To Discipliner, J-Sharpie and All Sonicers,

The Sonic R. "Mindset" is about being able to respond to reversing PA, about "switching gears" when PA switches. The "Shitty" Wave Trading sounds like the same thing, but I tried to point out the differences. I sincerely apologize for any confusion. Ok, lets do this without pictures.....

Sonic R.
A good PA wave starts by passing leg #1 thru the Dragon (excellent contrbution by Basber), then goes on to complete the L-H-HL or H-L-LH sequence. At entry, PA should be above Dragon for longs, below the Dragon for shorts (better still if also that way in regard to the Trend line). The Dragon should have good angle up for longs, good angle down for shorts (the more angle, the better). And it is really good if the Dragon itself is above the Trend for longs and below the Trend for shorts (though less frequently occuring). Now, if you enter a trade and it does not go far, and then reverses, the Sonic R. "Mindset" should be prepared to reverse also, closing the trade and looking for a proper PA wave to trade in the reverse direction. Remember, a proper PA wave starts by passing thru the Dragon. And all the other requirements need be met all over again in the reverse direction, etc. Ok, now on to "Shitty" Wave Trading.

Shitty Wave Trading
Examples of pure wave trading appeared last week and included entering long while PA was below the dragon. Entries long while PA is below the Dragon and entries short while PA is above the Dragon are not permitted in the Sonic R. System! Pure wave trading can get you into such entries, however, and the results can be "shitty". And this is what I tried to point out in the post on "Shitty" Wave Trading. The examples of pure wave trading were presented by a former Sonicer who also suggested the Dragon was not truely necessary once you became a better trader. Imagine that! Trade long and short, no matter what side of the Dragon PA is on, no matter the angle of the Dragon, and in fact......kill the Dragon!

Concluding...
I hope my time and attempt here is profitable for Sonicers. Trade how you will, because that is your decision and your right. I only request that if anyone chooses to not trade the Sonic R. System that they take themselves and their posts elsewhere. This thread is truely a gift to us from Master Sonicdeejay who is testimony to the spirit "sharing is caring." Its examples of Sonic R. trading, both good and bad, are all that we have to learn from to help us apply more skillfully over time. What we do not need is non-Sonic R. polution to wade thru, making our progress more difficult and prolonged. We are all going to contribute some polution as we develop. That is to be expected. No one will be immune to doing so. I myself am quilty as charged. But let's not do this intentionally to spoil a good thing.

Good Sonic R. Trading to All Sonicers,
-tah
  • #38,440
  • Aug 8, 2012 12:58am Aug 8, 2012 12:58am
is it set up for a long?
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