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  • #1,641
  • Aug 5, 2012 6:12pm Aug 5, 2012 6:12pm
One question.
The settings in the Matrix Indicator are more for M1-M5 or M5-15 ?

CCI Treshold 60
It that the color change point ?

If.. i would say for M1 70-80 would be better.

Or are that fixed values for all TFs ?
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  • #1,642
  • Aug 5, 2012 6:49pm Aug 5, 2012 6:49pm
Quoting Toranaga
One question.
The settings in the Matrix Indicator are more for M1-M5 or M5-15 ?

CCI Treshold 60
It that the color change point ?
Toranaga,
The settings should work on any time frame, but are exposed so you can experiment with what suits you best.

Except () that particular setting (CCI.Threshold) is not actually used for anything in the calculations, and will be removed in the next update. The color change occurs at a CCI of 0.
  • #1,643
  • Aug 5, 2012 7:32pm Aug 5, 2012 7:32pm
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Except () that particular setting (CCI.Threshold) is not actually used for anything in the calculations, and will be removed in the next update. The color change occurs at a CCI of 0.

Thanks a lot. You spare me a lot of time.
And a great explanation to what i wanted to know.

Of course i picked up the only setting that is listed but does not matter.
In my mind, CCI should be perfected, its so powerful.
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  • #1,644
  • Aug 5, 2012 7:48pm Aug 5, 2012 7:48pm
And sometimes you dont need any indicator or system.
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  • #1,645
  • Aug 5, 2012 7:58pm Aug 5, 2012 7:58pm
The same picture with the Matrix.
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  • #1,646
  • Edited 8:20pm Aug 5, 2012 8:02pm | Edited 8:20pm
The Matrix fails 2 times in a row in M1, then short arrow, then ops it look as a fail again, but no, wait,

a big drop.

With coral all would be half dramatic.
(i know its a sideways in M1, this system works great in m5 m15 H1, but)

simply adding the Coral, could explain the 'fails'
You have to expand the seccond pic it to see the coral.. To tiny.

and avoid them completely.

Or did i oversaw something in the Rules ?. Im learning.

btw. After testing Matrix i added the Moving average to my extended Thv system.
How i could forgot that. Thanks.
They complement great each other.
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  • #1,647
  • Aug 5, 2012 8:24pm Aug 5, 2012 8:24pm
3rd try. Yep.
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  • #1,648
  • Aug 5, 2012 8:29pm Aug 5, 2012 8:29pm
Quoting Toranaga
The Matrix fails 3 times in a row in M1, one with arrow.
(i know its a sideways in M1, this system works great in m5 m15 H1, but)

simply adding the Coral, could explain the 'fails'
You have to expand the seccond pic it to see the coral.. To tiny.

and avoid them completely.

Or did i oversaw something in the Rules ?. Im learning.

btw. After testing Matrix i added the Moving average to my extended Thv system.
How i could forgot that. Thanks.
They complement great each other.
In this post Oliverforex speaks about trading times, and he's right. Now, is not a very good time to contemplate trading, and also, Australia is on holiday today. But, even if you did, and you chose M1, you would do it like this:
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  • #1,649
  • Aug 5, 2012 8:31pm Aug 5, 2012 8:31pm
I realy would like to hear the opinions from the developers of this system
about what i posted.

I know, perfect M1 scalping wast you goal but if the opportunity is there..
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  • #1,650
  • Aug 5, 2012 8:36pm Aug 5, 2012 8:36pm
Quoting Toranaga
I realy would like to hear the opinions from the developers of this system
about what i posted.

I know, perfect M1 scalping wast you goal but if the opportunity is there..
Ummmm........I have posted what is wrong with your entries....what more is there to say?
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  • #1,651
  • Aug 5, 2012 8:42pm Aug 5, 2012 8:42pm
he he, the posts overlapped.

Thanks. Have to have a look..

btw. nothing is wrong with my entrys. Only wrong TF- Trying to take advantage of both systems.
Coral again. Or why it turns..

M1. In M5 its more blurry, say better..

Ok, i stop now.
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  • #1,652
  • Aug 5, 2012 8:55pm Aug 5, 2012 8:55pm
Quoting Toranaga
he he, the posts overlapped.

Thanks. Have to have a look..

btw. nothing is wrong with my entrys. Only wrong TF- Trying to take advantage of both systems.
Coral again. Or why it turns..

M1. In M5 its more blurry, say better..

Ok, i stop now.
Actually there is.....you said that the 'Matrix failed 3 times in a row' in this post. The Matrix didn't fail......you chose poor entries is what happened.
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  • #1,653
  • Edited 9:19pm Aug 5, 2012 9:09pm | Edited 9:19pm
Quoting realjumper
Actually there is.....you said that the 'Matrix failed 3 times in a row' in this post. The Matrix didn't fail......you chose poor entries is what happened.
Ach common, I dont expect you will put the Coral in the system, but thats complete ignorance.

Thats not a coincidence.

Or ??

Have a look now. Matrix Signal, + Arrow + Coral Cross.

One more to be sure .Poor entry's is not the right terminus.

Why poor. I can prove all of them as you can see. he he, poor.. ?!?
hyz poor. Made 4 plus trades with your system and the Coral.

Its not about bashing Matrix, its only about improving it for M1.

As i said the post overlapped, i corrected it, now it means

2 times..

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The Matrix fails 2 times in a row in M1, then short arrow, then ops it look as a fail again, but no, wait,
a big drop.
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  • #1,654
  • Aug 5, 2012 9:30pm Aug 5, 2012 9:30pm
Quoting Toranaga
Ach common, I dont expect you will put the Coral in the system, but thats not a coincidence.

Or ??

Have a look now. Matrix Signal, + Arrow + Coral Cross.

One more to be sure .Poor entry's is not the right terminus.

Why poor. I can prove all of them as you can see. he he, poor.. ?!?

Its not abot bashing Matrix, its only about improving it for M1.

As i said the post overlapped, i corrected it, now it means

2 times..
As I said, Matrix didn't get it wrong, *you* made poor trade choices.

Also, You have been on about Coral since you first came to this thread.....before you even bothered to download the system as you yourself stated here. And, as I said then, you are a THV fan, and that's great.....you even started your own THV offshoot thread.....fine. You think that the THV indicator Coral, is the best thing since sliced bread, good for you. However, it is NOT part of this system, not does it improve it in any way.

You are making poor entry choices then trying to blame the system.

This system, as I told you here has been developed and tested by some talented people and great traders who have considered many options when developing the Matrix and the system. Coral is not part of the system because it is not necessary.

Good luck with your THC thread
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  • #1,655
  • Aug 5, 2012 9:35pm Aug 5, 2012 9:35pm
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that the Asian session doesn't offer enough volatility/movement/liquidity for reliable signals and it generally pays to listen to him lol

Allways the same..

Mh, maybe it would be nice to have a Pdf Document in the first post
with all the collected rules and some insights, maybe..
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  • #1,656
  • Aug 5, 2012 9:39pm Aug 5, 2012 9:39pm
Quoting Toranaga
Allways the same..

Mh, maybe it would be nice to have a Pdf Document in the first post
with all the collected rules and some insights, maybe..
Sigh.....if you read the first post, you will that I am adding links to pertinent snippets of wisdom as we move along. Sorry that I haven't got around to adding the one from Oliverforex on the previous page yet.....I will get to it shortly.
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  • #1,657
  • Aug 5, 2012 9:54pm Aug 5, 2012 9:54pm
Quoting realjumper
Sigh.....if you read the first post, you will that I am adding links to pertinent snippets of wisdom as we move along. Sorry that I haven't got around to adding the one from Oliverforex on the previous page yet.....I will get to it shortly.
I forgive you this time. Hope you fix it soon..
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  • #1,658
  • Edited 10:16pm Aug 5, 2012 10:00pm | Edited 10:16pm
Quoting realjumper
As I said, Matrix didn't get it wrong, *you* made poor trade choices.

Also, You have been on about Coral since you first came to this thread.....before you even bothered to download the system as you yourself stated here. And, as I said then, you are a THV fan, and that's great.....you even started your own THV offshoot thread.....fine. You think that the THV indicator Coral, is the best thing since sliced bread, good for you. However, it is NOT part of this system,...
Dont agree with your post, but interesting to read a direct post from a developer. And i respect it.

No more Coral for you..
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  • #1,659
  • Aug 5, 2012 10:52pm Aug 5, 2012 10:52pm
Quoting Toranaga


I forgive you this time. Hope you fix it soon..
If you read the first 2 posts, the trading hours recommended are explained....
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  • #1,660
  • Aug 6, 2012 2:12am Aug 6, 2012 2:12am
Quoting realjumper
The point is, and it is clearly stated in the first post, that we do NOT do predictions on this thread......wave predictions, fib predictions or ANY OTHER kind of prediction. On this thread we are system traders, not predictors. The system we trade is the Genesis Matrix System.

Please respect that simple rule.
O.k. now I understand.

In this thread, it is only allowed to talk about the genesis matrix and the past like averages. But not about the future like MTF Stochastics, Pivotlevels or Fib-Levels. And old highs and lows and trendlines have a lot to do with fib-relations, thats forbidden too.

So this thread is not for the best use of your matrix but solely to the Matix itself.

Your thread - your rules - no problem.
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