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  • #673,481
  • Jul 31, 2012 4:10am Jul 31, 2012 4:10am
Quoting mohan76
yes i have noticed that yesterday , i gave up dax trading, but i was waited for 6000 to load long term trade, but forgot to do that ,
Naughty boy...
"Men who can both be right and sit tight are uncommon."
  • #673,482
  • Jul 31, 2012 4:10am Jul 31, 2012 4:10am
Quoting KiwiTrada
bro forex is based on physcology or sentiment, it show over and over again, when everything looks like is frozen, when least expect anythingto happen boom she moves
look Chinese rrr cut rumor and Chinese comments gave some boot . waiting for Chinese pmi rumor to come into play.
Mohan
  • #673,483
  • Jul 31, 2012 4:15am Jul 31, 2012 4:15am
Quoting MaxDoom
I am sure that you have your reasons, but that will be in the face of potentially good support around 1.2210
I Think it will break the support and touch 1.2175
  • #673,484
  • Jul 31, 2012 4:23am Jul 31, 2012 4:23am
Quoting shutto
I Think it will break the support and touch 1.2175
NO, she will be a flying knife today ..

coz.. coz.. coz.. I have a long trade.. muahahahahaha
  • #673,485
  • Jul 31, 2012 4:24am Jul 31, 2012 4:24am
Quoting rasc00
Have to disagree there - it's based on both fundamentals and market sentiment.
what at you talking about, fundimentals is sentiment, fundimental or data releases, are just numbers or words, but they a based on the sentiment or interpretation of actual circumstanecs, the pshycological interpretation is what we make of the data released.

where have you been, has been horrible fundy releases and her appreciates, good data releases and she falls, of course dick head fundimentalist will find reasons for the hegative co relation but

Techs rules supreme an fundimentals just enhances the tech moves
Tech says we in a uptrend bro we in a uptrend, Ttech says we in a downtrend, bro we in a down trend, no interpretation, no bs excuses, its right in your face

I guess if you a fundimental trader, you dont need charts, hiistorical data, S/R Fibs candle patterns etc etc that is all crap to you, you just need to watch the news and trade on that

Dont get me wrong people like mercy can do this, but there not many about,
Good luck
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  • #673,486
  • Jul 31, 2012 4:28am Jul 31, 2012 4:28am
Quoting KiwiTrada
what at you talking about, fundimentals is sentiment, fundimental or data releases, are just numbers or words, but they a based on the sentiment or interpretation of actual circumstanecs, the pshycological interpretation is what we make of the data released.

where have you been, has been horrible fundy releases and her appreciates, good data releases and she falls, of course dick head fundimentalist will find reasons for the hegative co relation but

Techs rules supreme an fundimentals just enhances the tech moves
Tech says we in a uptrend...
Fundamentals is not sentiment - I think that is very obvious but you must believe as you choose
Nil Desperandum Illegitimi Carborundum
  • #673,487
  • Jul 31, 2012 4:30am Jul 31, 2012 4:30am
Quoting xspeculator
Anyone know when is the meeting between ECB and FED?
You may want to check on the calendar provided by ForexFactory.
  • #673,488
  • Jul 31, 2012 4:32am Jul 31, 2012 4:32am
Quoting rasc00
Fundamentals is not sentiment - I think that is very obvious but you must believe as you choose
Ok bro you right, but can you explain what fundimentals is ???

Im just dumb kiwi
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  • #673,489
  • Jul 31, 2012 4:35am Jul 31, 2012 4:35am
Quoting Fx Bru
Yesterday was as expected, hit TP at 1.22300 for 70+ pip & triggered my pending order, buy limit there. because i expect there will be a divergence for the market to go up. now still with 45+ pip, SL at BE+ as usual and i will leave it targeting 1.23500 - 1.23800 zone (near upper trend line 4H)

goodluck.
hit my SL at 1.2265 (daily pivot) for +35 pips. Now im short on Euro @1.2262. will add more if market break weekly pivot around 1.2240. atm SL @1.2310
  • #673,490
  • Jul 31, 2012 4:36am Jul 31, 2012 4:36am
Quoting KiwiTrada
Ok bro you right, but can you explain what fundimentals is ???

Im just dumb kiwi
Sure - fundamentals are the nuts and bolts which make up a countrys economy - unemployment rate - manufacturing output etc etc. Sentiment is what the market thinks the price should be - if it were the same as fundamentals then there would never be any difference between the 2 and we would always know what the price should be in reality.
Nil Desperandum Illegitimi Carborundum
  • #673,491
  • Jul 31, 2012 4:41am Jul 31, 2012 4:41am
Quoting KiwiTrada
Yes reading minds hahahaaha ye got 2million pips today, lost none, thinking of buying a chocalate fish, pa is behaving very nice" tech" wise just waiting for some big bs fundy release to hurry everything up poor old cable
Only 5 pips for me today Bro, which is only +0.17% of my cap.
Remember my target is 2.2% daily average, so soon I am going to bank my $30,000.000. .

You know I still need to deal with my fears, if I do that I think I am on my way...
"Men who can both be right and sit tight are uncommon."
  • #673,492
  • Jul 31, 2012 4:55am Jul 31, 2012 4:55am
Quoting rasc00
Sure - fundamentals are the nuts and bolts which make up a countrys economy - unemployment rate - manufacturing output etc etc. Sentiment is what the market thinks the price should be - if it were the same as fundamentals then there would never be any difference between the 2 and we would always know what the price should be in reality.
Oh ok thanks this always confuses me, so if fundimental data is stating how an economy is performing, and sentiment is how the market interprets this information, which one will actually move the market.

Because I often see horrible data releases, and her appreciates, so I guess the fundimental release didnt mean squat, with regards to how the market moved, perhaps it was a technical quantity that actually moved the market, perhaps, pa was already at a strong SorR ahh is so confusing

Anyway if 95% of trader fails, which do you think is cause, mis interpreting data releases or market sentiment or TA?
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  • #673,493
  • Jul 31, 2012 4:56am Jul 31, 2012 4:56am
Quoting Mike8
Only 5 pips for me today Bro, which is only +0.17% of my cap.
Remember my target is 2.2% daily average, so soon I am going to bank my $30,000.000. .

You know I still need to deal with my fears, if I do that I think I am on my way...
EDIT: the good thing about the way I trade when I trade the 1h tf is that it keeps me out when the market is not trending, yesterday no trades, and today only one, apart from audusd which was more of an experiment.

Friday 4 trades (trending).
"Men who can both be right and sit tight are uncommon."
  • #673,494
  • Jul 31, 2012 4:58am Jul 31, 2012 4:58am
Quoting KiwiTrada
Oh ok thanks this always confuses me, so if fundimental data is stating how an economy is performing, and sentiment is how the market interprets this information, which one will actually move the market.

Because I often see horrible data releases, and her appreciates, so I guess the fundimental release didnt mean squat, with regards to how the market moved, perhaps it was a technical quantity that actually moved the market, perhaps, pa was already at a strong SorR ahh is so confusing

Anyway if 95% of trader fails, which do you think is...
http://www.calicutnet.com/articles/g...sentiments.htm
"Men who can both be right and sit tight are uncommon."
  • #673,495
  • Jul 31, 2012 5:01am Jul 31, 2012 5:01am
Quoting KiwiTrada
Oh ok thanks this always confuses me, so if fundimental data is stating how an economy is performing, and sentiment is how the market interprets this information, which one will actually move the market.

Because I often see horrible data releases, and her appreciates, so I guess the fundimental release didnt mean squat, with regards to how the market moved, perhaps it was a technical quantity that actually moved the market, perhaps, pa was already at a strong SorR ahh is so confusing

[b]Anyway if 95% of trader fails, which do you think is cause,...

more likely, over-leveraged, under-funded, SL in wrong place, biased view blinding them to what is going on...

and thats after the 50/50 to get the direction right in the first place
  • #673,496
  • Jul 31, 2012 5:01am Jul 31, 2012 5:01am
Quoting Mike8
Only 5 pips for me today Bro, which is only +0.17% of my cap.
Remember my target is 2.2% daily average, so soon I am going to bank my $30,000.000. .

You know I still need to deal with my fears, if I do that I think I am on my way...
if you achieved your r/r for your trade, has been a successful day bro

R/R is more important than how many pip you get long term, I will send you a simple plan to help you, mohan is watching it now hopefully

6 zones and pa been stuck neatly inside all day except cable poor old brits, games a great tho, we should have I 1st medal tomorrow
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  • #673,497
  • Jul 31, 2012 5:02am Jul 31, 2012 5:02am
Quoting KiwiTrada
if you achieved your r/r for your trade, has been a successful day bro

R/R is more important than how many pip you get long term, I will send you a simple plan to help you, mohan is watching it now hopefully
yes , yes , only think make me worry is monthly end, planing to take some rest soon
Mohan
  • #673,498
  • Jul 31, 2012 5:03am Jul 31, 2012 5:03am
Finally EU started to move. ;D
Work smarter,not harder
  • #673,499
  • Jul 31, 2012 5:05am Jul 31, 2012 5:05am
Quoting mohan76
yes , yes , only think make me worry is monthly end, planing to take some rest soon
yes yes monthly end is crap time take rest ready for monthly open
I hope you buyed bottom of zones

buy the bottom sell the top until bo bro
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  • #673,500
  • Jul 31, 2012 5:14am Jul 31, 2012 5:14am
Quoting KiwiTrada
Oh ok thanks this always confuses me, so if fundimental data is stating how an economy is performing, and sentiment is how the market interprets this information, which one will actually move the market.

Because I often see horrible data releases, and her appreciates, so I guess the fundimental release didnt mean squat, with regards to how the market moved, perhaps it was a technical quantity that actually moved the market, perhaps, pa was already at a strong SorR ahh is so confusing

Anyway if 95% of trader fails, which do you think is cause,...
Both Fundamentals and Sentiment move the market and they're both important in determining the price so you have to watch both the news data and the technicals.

If the fundamentals call the price at say 1.4000 and sentiment is running at 1.3000, eventually the sentiment will come into line with the fundamental price. Hope that helps to explain it.
Nil Desperandum Illegitimi Carborundum
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