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  • #281
  • Jul 18, 2012 12:09am Jul 18, 2012 12:09am
Quoting PipMonster1
RJ this is a great thread. I tried slogging my way through Symphonie but man that's a huge read........most probably worth the time and effort but I'd be a very old man by the time I finish.............

Many are happy with your condensed unpainting version here - I am also very appreciative of the time all of you have spent putting this together and have a good understanding of the system but that arrow? I know there is a link above that you have provided but it links to the indicator, which I have installed but still have no darn idea... in...
The arrow is there confirming the current trade.....I have circled the arrows for you.

You'll need to ask Yelena if you want to get into the 'how it works' for the arrow.......I use it because it works, but I'm not too worried about why or how it works.....it would no doubt be too complex for me to understand, and I don't need to understand....I just use it!!
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  • #282
  • Jul 18, 2012 12:15am Jul 18, 2012 12:15am
Quoting realjumper
The arrow is there confirming the current trade.....I have circled the arrows for you.

You'll need to ask Yelena if you want to get into the 'how it works' for the arrow.......I use it because it works, but I'm not too worried about why or how it works.....it would no doubt be too complex for me to understand, and I don't need to understand....I just use it!!

All very good ........
For the arrow I agree with RJ.

Hello to all
  • #283
  • Jul 18, 2012 12:46am Jul 18, 2012 12:46am
Yesterday i'm collect another +37 p on EU 15
40+37=77 p total
Good system...

Many thanks RJ
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  • #284
  • Edited 1:07am Jul 18, 2012 12:55am | Edited 1:07am
The Daily Pivot dance EU now

That bounch was at the pip
  • #285
  • Jul 18, 2012 12:56am Jul 18, 2012 12:56am
Quoting realjumper
The arrow is there confirming the current trade.....I have circled the arrows for you.

You'll need to ask Yelena if you want to get into the 'how it works' for the arrow.......I use it because it works, but I'm not too worried about why or how it works.....it would no doubt be too complex for me to understand, and I don't need to understand....I just use it!!
Thanks RJ.

Thinking the arrow was important as a part of the trade I assumed there was a simple explanation. Hey, if it works......
  • #286
  • Jul 18, 2012 1:25am Jul 18, 2012 1:25am
Hi sorry to interupt this great thread but I have a slight problem with the Genesis indi . It wont change colour on the TV1 line and on the T3 line . It stays white constantley ,any chart any time frame . Iam probaly the only one with this problem as nobody has spoken about it ,could sombody steer me in the correct dirrection ,Thanking u .
  • #287
  • Jul 18, 2012 1:25am Jul 18, 2012 1:25am
Quoting Jse Alsi
Hi sorry to interupt this great thread but I have a slight problem with the Genesis indi . It wont change colour on the TV1 line and on the T3 line . It stays white constantley ,any chart any time frame . Iam probaly the only one with this problem as nobody has spoken about it ,could sombody steer me in the correct dirrection ,Thanking u .
reload the package and upload it in your folder again.
  • #288
  • Jul 18, 2012 1:29am Jul 18, 2012 1:29am
That i have tried , also tried on diff broker as well ??very strange
  • #289
  • Jul 18, 2012 1:35am Jul 18, 2012 1:35am
Quoting Jse Alsi
That i have tried , also tried on diff broker as well ??very strange
You're missing the indicators needed to run the T3 and TVi lines, make sure you have all the indicators from the zip file and recompile them.
  • #290
  • Jul 18, 2012 1:37am Jul 18, 2012 1:37am
ok will try that tks.
  • #291
  • Jul 18, 2012 2:07am Jul 18, 2012 2:07am
Quoting Jse Alsi
Hi sorry to interrupt this great thread but I have a slight problem with the Genesis indi . It wont change colour on the TV1 line and on the T3 line . It stays white constantly ,any chart any time frame.
If you enable dll's (globally or for the indicator alone) you will get a warning if the indicators are missing when you load the indicator onto a chart..

Another possible cause is having too many indicators in your indicators folder. Keep the number below 500.
  • #292
  • Jul 18, 2012 2:24am Jul 18, 2012 2:24am
Quoting Xaphod
Another possible cause is having too many indicators in your indicators folder. Keep the number below 500.
500???....wow.....I can't ever imagine having that many indicators!!!
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  • #293
  • Jul 18, 2012 2:27am Jul 18, 2012 2:27am
Quoting realjumper
500???....wow.....I can't ever imagine having that many indicators!!!
In one chart hahaha just kidding! there are many indicator collecto out there,,,
  • #294
  • Jul 18, 2012 3:06am Jul 18, 2012 3:06am
A little question for you all!

Stop Loss! what method do you use?
1. For start stop loss
2. For trailing (if you do)

I use fractals for start stop loss and then also trailing with them, this is my extram "get out" and trailing metheod.

See pic this is just a exepel there been maybe something else that get you out before, but just to show the idea.
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  • #295
  • Jul 18, 2012 3:17am Jul 18, 2012 3:17am
Quoting KennyForex
A little question for you all!

Stop Loss! what method do you use?
1. For start stop loss
2. For trailing (if you do)

I use fractals for start stop loss and then also trailing with them, this is my extram "get out" and trailing metheod.

See pic this is just a exepel there been maybe something else that get you out before, but just to show the idea.
Personally I use CaveManager. I am more concerned about not loosing at the moment than I am with winning. At the moment I take 40% profit very quick, 10pips normally and set the trade to break even. It stops out alot but atleast Im asured of small profit and no loss. 2nd part I try to run to 2/1 RR not trailing or moving stop loss at all. I do that because I cannot sit and watch my trade, I freak out and exit prematurely. So once I entered I let my robot manage the rest. Its not the optimal strategy but its helped me alot. Guess everybody needs to find what he is comfortable with. Some traders here are gifted with intuition and seems to always know where to exit. I hope with alot of hours I will also develop that intuition.

I am not a fan of taking half profits. I believe that you must take 100% profit using the optimal exit strategy. But since I dont know what that is yet I use 2 and I will optimise it over time.
  • #296
  • Jul 18, 2012 3:34am Jul 18, 2012 3:34am
So here you are symphonie rebels , finally you have get rid of repainting indicator, this is a big step forward so my sincere congratulation !
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  • #297
  • Jul 18, 2012 3:37am Jul 18, 2012 3:37am
Quoting christiaandu
Personally I use CaveManager. I am more concerned about not loosing at the moment than I am with winning. At the moment I take 40% profit very quick, 10pips normally and set the trade to break even. It stops out alot but atleast Im asured of small profit and no loss. 2nd part I try to run to 2/1 RR not trailing or moving stop loss at all. I do that because I cannot sit and watch my trade, I freak out and exit prematurely. So once I entered I let my robot manage the rest. Its not the optimal strategy but its helped me alot. Guess everybody needs...
Wow, 40%! You make a good point, it's usually the case that the best trades (the one's we want to be in!) take off with momentum and with very little drawdown - the textbooks always suggest giving your trades wiggle room, but in my experience this destroys your account; focusing on not losing is an excellent way to approach a trade imo.
  • #298
  • Jul 18, 2012 3:53am Jul 18, 2012 3:53am
I said I will post my loosers. This one might end up as one lets see. But reasons I took it. All the majors above the pivot and 600ema (50 on 1hour) Good signal. Stochs from oversold ect (my green stoch is the same as RJs)

Anybody else took it? Any pros stayed out?

Still on demo btw
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  • #299
  • Jul 18, 2012 3:55am Jul 18, 2012 3:55am
Quoting sidefx
Wow, 40%! You make a good point, it's usually the case that the best trades (the one's we want to be in!) take off with momentum and with very little drawdown - the textbooks always suggest giving your trades wiggle room, but in my experience this destroys your account; focusing on not losing is an excellent way to approach a trade imo.
Yeah......placing SL's is a personal thing. I use the swing high/low method, but if the nearest swing is going to make the SL too expensive, I might just skip the trade altogether. Generally I don't sit and watch the SL get hit, I manually exit before then, but even so, if the SL is going to be expensive, I will wait for another opportunity.
Doing what you like is Freedom. Liking what you do is Happiness.
  • #300
  • Jul 18, 2012 4:07am Jul 18, 2012 4:07am
Hello everyone,

First of all I would like to thank all the work of everyone involved on this thread your are doing a great work, seriously you guys are doing a great work.

I'm glad that I caught this tread in the beginning because this is growing very fast.

Can someone confirm if my reading of the chart below are correct?



Thanks in advance
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